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OfflineGreat Scott
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7784149 - 12/21/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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And then that made me think that i'm probably not the first person to think this, so this community could infact already exist...




Heh... you may be onto something.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Great Scott]
    #7784449 - 12/21/07 03:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Every serious explorer comes across this anomaly that can't be described with words because our language needs to evolve more, to that next level... It's been described by many as "pure information" or "perfect understanding" and I've also experienced something like it in short bursts when I took 3 hits but it was frustrating because the idea or the anomaly starts to dissolve as fast as it appears and so I felt I never had enough time to analyze it...

I've yet to experience this with psilocybin but I simply need a higher dose, around 5g probably.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Great Scott]
    #7784452 - 12/21/07 03:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have several opinions on "it". After opening this thread I decided to go outside and smoke a cigg and think about it.

Maybe "it" is our dream reality, where the smallest piece of the puzzle (you) feels like the whole masterpiece (culture or every human being in general). Each puzzle piece is differently shaped and colored and thus less significant than the actual work of art itself. "It", possibly, could be the significance of the entire picture but recognized through only one swipe of the crayon (you).

First couple times I've done LSD and shrooms I felt "it" as I bet most people have, though most can't really explain or identify it. All outside forces that are constantly trying retrim and recolor your piece, rearrange your outlook on life, your perspective, are dropped for what they are, just as insignificant as you are in this unmeasurable universe.

I too have had that *smack forehead* (or in my case, five-head) and say "DUH!! That's just it!" Sometimes it goes away just as fast as in came, and other times for quite some time I could be feeling that irie.

I think I've thought too much about "it" and I may not even be on the right track as you guys. Pink Floyd was all about "it" mann.

Edit: Maybe the answer to "it" is that we will never reach it. Being able to completely let go in itself may be the pathway to it--which may be achieved in loss of ego?


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... *DELETED* [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7784456 - 12/21/07 03:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: soulcircus]
    #7784514 - 12/21/07 04:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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krosmo67 said:Maybe the answer to "it" is that we will never reach it. Being able to completely let go in itself may be the pathway to it--which may be achieved in loss of ego?




...reminds me of SOD lyrics:

Swimming through the void we hear the Word
We lose ourselves but we find it all


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: c0_hush]
    #7784957 - 12/21/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"cleanse the heart"

yes, truth changes, "it" is never the answer, "it" are the feelings of "intuitively approaching"
You never capture or understand truth, you can only be willing to feel it


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7784972 - 12/21/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I had been up the entire night before on adderoll studying for finals, and supplemented with a lot of caffeine throught he night and next morning. Then i napped from 4 to 7 pm then candyflipped around 730, 3 pills 2 tabs. My memories of the trip are extremely vague, but are indescribable. I have one memory in particular, one of my last where i had felt as if I created a reality for myself that was as close to perfect as can be imagined, every action had an infinitly better reaction, All i could mutter was this is to perfect.

Apparently i had gone into a seizure around 11. I feel as if i had gone 100x further than before on this quest, unfortunatly nearly all was lost. And worst of all I now have a fear of continuting the quest since I am unsure what caused the seizure.




You were on ecstasy man. Everything is always perfect on E, especially when you aren't burnt out and just started rolling.

If you took 3 pills at the same time, that's probably what caused the seizure(during your peak). I took 2 pills at the same time once, and was on the brink of a seizure(my whole body was shaking) and my body was shivering, my head was going back and forth and I had a HORRID headache. Always spaced it out, ever since.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7785345 - 12/21/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"It" is The Logos.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: SSM_Arts]
    #7785723 - 12/21/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can't say my "it" is the same as yours, but I suspect it is. So yes. And "it" will be the dominant factor that shapes our society within a couple decades.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: pokermush]
    #7785941 - 12/21/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I feel that IT is very personal. It is within. You are it, i am it. It's in all of us.

The people that live life as it was set out for them by society, probably won't know IT until they die. For us that have strayed the beaten path, and have explored the forest that lay beyond the flock of normal human living, have experienced something. This can't be relayed back to the flock in an easy manner, they just won't get it. But together, we all know. We've seen IT. We've felt IT. We've experienced IT.

For me, LSD has always given a simplistic view of IT. IT's so simple. So utterly basic I can't believe i never realized it before. It's so obvious!!

Mushrooms on the other hand, have always made IT seem very complex to me. Something unreachable without help. Something so fan-freakin-tastic, that I can't even intake all of IT.

That's what came to my mind when reading this topic. :mushroom2:


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7786544 - 12/21/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The only way to describe 'it' would be if everybody in the world tripped and then we made a new word that just sums up what everybody already knows.

Language is only a tool, and sometimes it reaches its limits.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: enesi]
    #7786584 - 12/21/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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enesi said:
I feel that IT is very personal. It is within. You are it, i am it. It's in all of us.

The people that live life as it was set out for them by society, probably won't know IT until they die. For us that have strayed the beaten path, and have explored the forest that lay beyond the flock of normal human living, have experienced something. This can't be relayed back to the flock in an easy manner, they just won't get it. But together, we all know. We've seen IT. We've felt IT. We've experienced IT.

For me, LSD has always given a simplistic view of IT. IT's so simple. So utterly basic I can't believe i never realized it before. It's so obvious!!

Mushrooms on the other hand, have always made IT seem very complex to me. Something unreachable without help. Something so fan-freakin-tastic, that I can't even intake all of IT.

That's what came to my mind when reading this topic. :mushroom2:




Well said, even the LSD vs. Mushrooms comparison. I experience the same.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Continuum]
    #7786621 - 12/21/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Continuum said:
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enesi said:
I feel that IT is very personal. It is within. You are it, i am it. It's in all of us.

The people that live life as it was set out for them by society, probably won't know IT until they die. For us that have strayed the beaten path, and have explored the forest that lay beyond the flock of normal human living, have experienced something. This can't be relayed back to the flock in an easy manner, they just won't get it. But together, we all know. We've seen IT. We've felt IT. We've experienced IT.

For me, LSD has always given a simplistic view of IT. IT's so simple. So utterly basic I can't believe i never realized it before. It's so obvious!!

Mushrooms on the other hand, have always made IT seem very complex to me. Something unreachable without help. Something so fan-freakin-tastic, that I can't even intake all of IT.

That's what came to my mind when reading this topic. :mushroom2:




Well said, even the LSD vs. Mushrooms comparison. I experience the same.



really...that's pretty cool, lol

my last lsd trip, during the comedown i totally felt like life was just so mundane. Go to work, pay bills, sleep, repeat. Buy material items along the way to entertain yourself. Shit seemed really simple at that moment, lol


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: enesi]
    #7786667 - 12/21/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Lets name It you guys.

suggestions? we could even have a poll!


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: origami.octopus]
    #7786679 - 12/21/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Lets name It you guys.

suggestions? we could even have a poll!




jenkem.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: g00ru]
    #7786721 - 12/21/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The Logos........


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: SSM_Arts]
    #7786783 - 12/21/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How we forget ourselves?

It is YOU.

The original "sin" was the Illusion of being serperate from "it".

"it" is everything and we are "it".

Haven't psychedelics taught anyone that everything we perceive is an illusion? Isn't that the point?

God is The Dread Pirate Roberts and sometimes "it" thinks "it's" you and so "it" IS YOU.

"it" is the VERY REAL MASS MIND. and it pervades everything.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: SSM_Arts]
    #7786849 - 12/21/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The Logos........




OMG! is that the pattern you see when your on acid or shrooms too? overlaying everything! If so then holy crap thats sweet.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: F1234K]
    #7786901 - 12/21/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The Logos........




OMG! is that the pattern you see when your on acid or shrooms too? overlaying everything! If so then holy crap thats sweet.




No, it's an altered image of an 8000 year old rock painting where running men are carring mushrooms. It's from the Tassili N'Ajjer Plateau in Africa. there is another more famous image of a Bee-headed shaman with mushrooms sprouting out of his body. as found HERE.
If you are seeing this specific image on mushrooms then that is an amazing thing.


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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: SSM_Arts]
    #7786916 - 12/21/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I basically see that exactly...except more like a 2 frame gif so It would look like its running sorta at blinky LED like intervals in many flasy reds and blues and colors :smile:

And yes I have read about the bee headed shaman, mainly in foods of the gods by mckenna.


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