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OfflineMcBando
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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: Nebula]
    #7777733 - 12/19/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My jars had a halt in mycelium growth as well, so I flipped them upside down to help jump start the colonization of the bottom of the jars. One of the cakes broke apart after sitting upside down for a while. A piece of the bottom (now the top) broke off...

Is that a bad thing? What should I do? Also, my jars have started pinning prematurely. Help anyone?


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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: McBando]
    #7777792 - 12/19/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I find it difficult to comment on the broken cake, I'll leave that to other posters. As for the pinning in the jar: wait till the cake has been colonized completely, don't take them out otherwise you'll probably end up with a green/pink/black cake. Maybe the pins abort, but that's less worse than a green cake..


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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: Nebula]
    #7778057 - 12/19/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There are a bunch of things that could be a problem and each has its own solution but it is hard to try everything until you know what the problem is. I would suggest wasting a jar. Open one up and scrape the verm off the top. Smell it and see if it smells normal once you get to smell the substrate. Feel the consistency of the cake to make sure it is moist enough. Pull off the sections of colonized mycelium and look at inside of the chunk. See if the myc over there looks dry or grey (don't bruise it until you look). Check the substrate just inside where the chunk was. See if it is normal looking, good BRF to Verm ratio, moist, not too compact.

If there are no noticeable problems I can see two possible solutions. 1) wait it out and see if they start to finish colonizing. 2) take the lids off and let them incubate with just the verm layer on top. #2 has a lot higher risk of contams than normal but will solve the gas exchange problem (if there is one)


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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: Smushroom]
    #7784861 - 12/21/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so i did as said here and took two jars that weren't colonizing. removing the foil i smelled a rotten stench. well, not rotten but some weird smell like a bug that flew in my eye once while i was riding my bike and this awful sour/bitter smell was with me for days.

i dumped the jar contents on a plate and saw no infection except the center which stuck together. it was grayish and smelled terrible. it wasn't green or black mold, which don't smell like that imo, it was something else.

now i'm afraid i'll have to check ALL the jars. damn, i've never had that contam.


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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7784912 - 12/21/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

just leave the jar how it is...as long as they are close together (the pieces) they will mend in time.


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Worried about leaving jars unattended during the holidays [Re: Nebula]
    #7785072 - 12/21/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I got a potential problem....

I posted earlier about my jars pinning prematurely with my jars not 100% colonized. A few of the cakes broke apart when I turned them upside down to try and enhance the gas exchange towards the bottom (now the top) of the jar and speed up mycelium growth. One of my problems is that my water/verm mix was a bit on the wet side...

Anyways, a few of the pins on the non fully colonized jars have grown to be pretty big, and I need to leave for the holidays for about a week....

Is it ok to let these pins keep growing in the jar? This one particular pin is pushing its way to the top of the lid.

Is ok to leave these unattended, in the dark for another week?

I would appreciate any advice.


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Re: jars started to colonize, then stopped [Re: Nebula]
    #7785390 - 12/21/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The foil over the top of your jars has nothing to do with colonization speed or high c02 levels. If your using lids, after inoculation keep the foil off you dont need it.

dry verm barrier + tyvek is all you need for pf jar

you dont even need tyvek.


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