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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7823753 - 01/02/08 01:14 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Is it common to find hallow wooden boards out there nowadays? How to they ride compared to regular boards? I know the old regular wood ones they rode 50+ years ago were ALL wood and weighed like 150lb.

And I'd imagine that 99.9% of active surfers out there just use regular boards (plexiglass is it? with that funky foam built in the middle)?

Although,... in the past year or two I'd imagine there'd be more people making their own using alternative methods ever since that company in HB shut down that provided all the foam to most surfboard makers.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: BrAiN]
    #7824726 - 01/02/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

it's a budding niche...I don't see many (any) wood boards where
I'm at.

I have 2 chambered balsas...a 7something and a 9'0" and they
are both really nice rides.

the longboard floats me nicely and picks up waves well...I can't
push it quite as hard as my Stewart, but I think that's more a
function of the shape than weight...I'm big and the Stewart is
a high perf shape.

The spine and rib design I'm using now will further lighten the
board relative to the chambered approach which uses much more
solid wood. In all honesty, the balsa long board isn't even
really all that heavy.

I finished the fixes to my router table and milled my first batch
of rail strips out of some basswood scrap I had left



round the top on the first pass and then cut out the cove on the second
pass...all one bit, just has to be raised and lowered to expose the
specific profile you're cutting.

this way the strips stack nicely on one another with a greater amount of
glue surface, but, more importantly, also allow you to build a curve in
to the stack of rail strips with the round joint.

it's really rather ingenious (not my idea).



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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7825050 - 01/02/08 07:43 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

When it's done.. do me a favor? Can you take it up to C Street at Ventura and use it to MOW DOWN a bunch of locals for me?

I want to get my vicarious revenge through you.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7870667 - 01/12/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

a brief hiatus last week while out of town on business.

today I put together the tail block and glued up the chine
and base bead strip for the rails on one side of the board.







took off a lot of the clamps on the board, I don't think I have to worry
about the nose snapping off on this one like the test board.

I'll get the rail on the other side set up later tonite and get build
up at least 2 passes of bead and cove rail strips tomorrow.

I'm still aiming to complete this before the end of the month.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7872640 - 01/13/08 08:51 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

how much is that gonna weigh when its done?


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: BrAiN]
    #7872763 - 01/13/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I have no clue.

I took meat out of the internal frame as you can see in the last shot
with those holes.

I'm using the lightest wood available to me (redwood, basswood, cedar)
and I'm not going to glass it...just a couple coats of epoxy.

:crosses fingers:


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7873160 - 01/13/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I wonder if wooden boards are harder to ding and crack than regular old boards.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: BrAiN]
    #7876422 - 01/13/08 11:42 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

last night's glue up went well.



so I set up the chine and base bead strip on the other side this
morning.



setting up rail first thing in the morning is good because you'll
get two glue ups in a single day.



once both sides were chined and considering the epoxy has had
nearly 14 days to set I figured it was as good a time as any to
cut out the rough outline and take the last of the clamps off the
rocker table.



I'm so stoked to see the lines starting to shape up.

before the second set of rail strips, I took the time to hand plane
down the tail section to the rough taper I'm looking for.



and just before bed, I got my second set of rail strips steamed, bent
and set in place with glue.



I GOT YO CLAMPZ, NIGGA!!!!


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7877236 - 01/14/08 07:15 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

whats the ETA on finishing this? If I'm not mistaken, you guys are in the middle of the good season for big ass waves right NOW


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7877368 - 01/14/08 08:33 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

looking good so far!

big project, I hope it rides good and lasts a while:thumbup:


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: BrAiN]
    #7877639 - 01/14/08 10:04 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

yeah, surf has been nice lately...it will stay good through about March
or so and then it basically goes flat for the summer.

I'm aiming to get this done by the end of the month.

just want to see how much time it takes to complete.

I've already identified ways to speed the process up completely.

if I had the space (and clamps) I could technically parallel path
two boards at a time.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7881024 - 01/14/08 11:12 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

many sexy sexy time love love







all of a sudden I need the deck and fin boxes but I don't have either
ready at the moment...also need to figure out vent and leash plugs and
whether or not I'm going to stain or oil it before epoxy.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7894571 - 01/17/08 07:39 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)





been doing some tuning.

I've got the bottom shaped...I've been tuning up the rails.

as I was building up the rails, I discovered that the ribs were a
little domed.

this is bad news....you definitely want those ribs as flat on the
top as possible so that you can build your rail up and find a
point that requires the minimum (if any) amount of bend to
get the decking to meet the rails...resting on the keel and the
rib as true as possible...this is the foundation of the deck
which will be bearing a substantial amount of weight in certain
conditions.

I had too much fat up there, compounding the problem, my rails weren't
stacking quite how I wanted them to, so I took a chisel and a block plane
to the keel and ribs and took some meat off.



got the rails 50-50 at the nose with a bit of beak left on the top, faded
in to 60-40 on the center faded back to a hard flat tail section.



resawed some wood and picked the layout for my panel...eliminated
the little stringer strips...it's two more faces to glue and two more
joints that can go to shit during the panel glue up so I figured I'd
KISS.



I'm going big and using a wide strip of birdseye for the center strip.

I think it looks hot next to the deep redwood and the pattern of
the wood is going to be sex once I oil it up and seal the board.

(unfinished surface)



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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7894912 - 01/17/08 08:57 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Look good... but I think it's needs giant metal, sharp spokes on the sides... so you can take out other surfers a-la Ben_Hur_Circus_Maximus style.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: BrAiN]
    #7905129 - 01/20/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)





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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #7905318 - 01/20/08 10:45 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

the tail is gruesome


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: alphabeatu]
    #8003203 - 02/09/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've skipped a lot of pictures, but the board is done.







taken it out once during some high tide mush...need a good low tide
day to know for sure whether it's going to be a surfboard or a new
coffee table.

learned A LOT on this one...including how not to glass!

will never use maple or poplar again...working on sourcing paulownia
and balsa wood.

next project is going to be a big 12 foot stand up paddleboard thingy.


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #8003699 - 02/10/08 05:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

very nice! I hope it doens't weigh a ton..

have you tried it out yet?

when you show the bottom of the board in the last pic, it looks like the fins aren't really pointed straight forward? but are sligtly pointed like this / \


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: afoaf]
    #8003772 - 02/10/08 07:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

pretty cool

it'd have looked heaps better with a rounded pintail or just a pintail tho imo

did you just want a swallow tail because you prefer?

id have thought the pintails would be easier to do

anyway its a pretty cool 'montrosity':thumbup:


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Re: wooden surfboard [Re: alphabeatu]
    #8003792 - 02/10/08 07:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Avenge me and mow those ventura fuckers down for me!

And bring a knife.... they slash tires of people who aren't local.


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