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After we die...
    #7774779 - 12/18/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

...assuming there's an afterlife of some sort do you think we retain some of our ego or do you think it is incinerated?


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7774834 - 12/18/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't usually try to speculate about what happens after death, but I'm almost certain that the ego does not survive death, especially since it can barely survive certain high-dose LSD trips.


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Re: After we die... [Re: Silversoul]
    #7774859 - 12/18/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't usually try to speculate about what happens after death, but I'm almost certain that the ego does not survive death, especially since it can barely survive certain high-dose LSD trips.




True, I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7774884 - 12/18/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Silversoul said:
I don't usually try to speculate about what happens after death, but I'm almost certain that the ego does not survive death, especially since it can barely survive certain high-dose LSD trips.




True, I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.




Hahah.. me too. If death is the great unknown, I could be spending eternities being very confused. That's why I hope it is more like the clear light experience and what have you.


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Re: After we die... [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7774907 - 12/18/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

perhaps it is eternal dreaming?

until your life-energy/spirit whathaveyou recycles into another being?

who knows.  :stars:


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7774936 - 12/18/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Silversoul said:
I don't usually try to speculate about what happens after death, but I'm almost certain that the ego does not survive death, especially since it can barely survive certain high-dose LSD trips.




True, I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.



Hopefully more like a constant DMT trip. You know, there's something I sometimes wonder about: If consciousness ceases at death, and if DMT is in fact released in the dying brain, I wonder if that could be like an eternal afterlife. I'm sure we've all experienced that time-warping qualities of psychedelics. If our dying brain releases large amounts of DMT, it could warp our perception to the point that the last seconds before brain death could actually be experienced as an eternity.


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Re: After we die... [Re: Silversoul]
    #7774965 - 12/18/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Silversoul said:
I don't usually try to speculate about what happens after death, but I'm almost certain that the ego does not survive death, especially since it can barely survive certain high-dose LSD trips.




True, I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.



Hopefully more like a constant DMT trip. You know, there's something I sometimes wonder about: If consciousness ceases at death, and if DMT is in fact released in the dying brain, I wonder if that could be like an eternal afterlife. I'm sure we've all experienced that time-warping qualities of psychedelics. If our dying brain releases large amounts of DMT, it could warp our perception to the point that the last seconds before brain death could actually be experienced as an eternity.




Very interesting thought man! You should make a thread about this idea.


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7774997 - 12/18/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Waking Life



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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7775066 - 12/18/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.




It won't matter if it is.

You'll be DEAD.


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7775100 - 12/18/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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...assuming there's an afterlife of some sort do you think we retain some of our ego or do you think it is incinerated?




I'd say neither. Both possibilities you raise pre-suppose that the ego is some static and existent thing in the first place.


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Re: After we die... [Re: Rose]
    #7775313 - 12/18/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.




It won't matter if it is.

You'll be DEAD.




Your physical body will be dead but that doesn't mean your essence is lost in the process of dying


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7775375 - 12/18/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

When I take my ABBA CD and smash it into a zillion pieces, where does the music go?


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Re: After we die... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7775384 - 12/18/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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When I take my ABBA CD and smash it into a zillion pieces, where does the music go?




Where was the music in the first place?


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Re: After we die... [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7775405 - 12/18/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:rimshot:

Did I set that up perfectly for you?

*shmoopy taps toe and hums along*

Youre a teaser, you turn em on
Leave them burning and then youre gone
Looking out for another, anyone will do
Youre in the mood for a dance
And when you get the chance...

You are the dancing queen, young and sweet, only seventeen
Dancing queen, feel the beat from the tambourine
You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life
See that girl, watch that scene, dig in the dancing queen


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7775407 - 12/18/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
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Cervantes said:
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reeferaddict69 said:
I just hope it isn't like a constant Salvia trip.




It won't matter if it is.

You'll be DEAD.




Your physical body will be dead but that doesn't mean your essence is lost in the process of dying




What is your essence?


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Re: After we die... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7775419 - 12/18/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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:rimshot:

Did I set that up perfectly for you?

*shmoopy taps toe and hums along*

Youre a teaser, you turn em on
Leave them burning and then youre gone
Looking out for another, anyone will do
Youre in the mood for a dance
And when you get the chance...

You are the dancing queen, young and sweet, only seventeen
Dancing queen, feel the beat from the tambourine
You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life
See that girl, watch that scene, dig in the dancing queen





nicely done :lol:


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Re: After we die... [Re: dblaney]
    #7775499 - 12/18/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Our essence is the patterns imprinted on us during a lifetime of experience and stored in the brain. When the brain is dissolved the information and the pattern is lost forever.

:bye:


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Re: After we die... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7775731 - 12/18/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

When I say essence I mean spirit not ego


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Re: After we die... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7775854 - 12/18/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Our essence is the patterns imprinted on us during a lifetime of experience and stored in the brain.




No, that is the ego.

Our essence will forever exist, because the essence didn't come after the beginning of the creation of our bodies, it preceded it. So our essence must exist without the body. Our essence is everywhere.

I think there will always be conciousness. You don't need the ego to be conscious now do you..

Ego-loss feels like becoming one with everything, and you cannot differentiate your body from your surroundings. So no "ego", but energy remains percieving itself. It is like you become raw energy that experiences everything.

Who knows? There is life everywhere friends. In all directions and planes and everything. Everything is life.


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Re: After we die... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7777089 - 12/19/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Spirit is indefinable, immeasureable, unobservable, and unknowable; in other words, it is fantasy based on ancient superstition.


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