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c0_hush
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*PIC* What's this growing on the cake???
#7774624 - 12/18/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just noticed this this morning as it must have literally happened over night... That section of that cake was still developing myc but now it's kinda turning blue? What the hell is this? Could it be mold growing on a fruiting cake? It's not on other cakes and the rest of them are developing just fine.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774634 - 12/18/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doesn't look good. I would toss that immediately
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774636 - 12/18/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like heavy contam to me. It may already be too late to isolate it from the rest, but you can always try! Be very slow in movement!
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: Horse_Meister]
#7774655 - 12/18/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get rid of the cake, but I'd still keep the shroomies on it.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: Horse_Meister]
#7774667 - 12/18/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rub it softly with a q-tip or a piece of tissue. If it stains the q-tip/tissue you have met el meano greano the big enemy of mushroom cultivators.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: TheravadaDreams]
#7774669 - 12/18/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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next time try to notice it wile it was in the jar o.O
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774670 - 12/18/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It doesn't look good. Is that an air line runing underneath that cake?
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774696 - 12/18/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can't be 100% sure but my best guess is blue-green mold. In any event it is contaminated and should be carefully isolated and discarded after removal of any/all shrooms.
Mushies on the cake are harmless to consume and not affected by the adjacent contamination.
For future reference, these kinds of questions and pictures are customarily posted to the contamination forum.
Good luck. Get that puppy into a sealed plastic bag ASAP with the least disturbace possible. N.B.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: Nature Boy]
#7774703 - 12/18/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If there is mold on the cake but none on the mushies eat away
If there is mold on the actual mushies I would trash them
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: Nibin]
#7774766 - 12/18/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK guys thanks, i just scraped it off with a q tip and a chunk of it just came off the outer layer of the verm i used after I dunk and rolled. This did NOT grow from the inner part of the myc itself and was a contamination AFTER i rolled the cake. I thought about just scrapint it off the dry verm layer and keeping the cake cuz the myc underneath was still white and unaffected but I decided to not risk another contamination and picked off the shroomies and tossed the cake...
Shame, it had good mushies growing on it and so many little pins developing. This reinforces my belief that the verm used to roll the cakes in after a dunk should also be sterilized as this contam defintely developed after I rolled the cake in the verm. Like I said when i scraped some off it, it just flakes off and the only part that it was attached to was the dry vrm layer that's on top of the myc.
I'll definitely be PC'ing the verm I roll my cakes in after this incident... Live and learn.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774795 - 12/18/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The problem is that some contaminants mycelium is also white. You can only detect it once it sporulates and then you see the green (or whatever the molds colour). So you have no real way of telling if it was contaminated before or after.
How long since you rolled?
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7774856 - 12/18/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I birthed these cakes, about a week ago, there was no indication of any contams but you're right, could have been white and I just didn't see it. Now that I think about it, one of jars (when I bitherd them into cold water for a dunk) had a distinct smell to it, like shrooms and something else starting to go bad, it's hard to explain but I bet that was the compromised jar... As always, thanks for an insightful reply.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7775081 - 12/18/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This reinforces my belief that the verm used to roll the cakes in after a dunk should also be sterilized
Pasteurize that stuff. Only sterilize your initial substrates, i.e. grains and BRF jars.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: thedefone]
#7775151 - 12/18/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol, I don't do anything to the verm before i roll my cakes. And i don't think RR recommends that. But if you want to go through the extra, unnecessary effort go for it.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: thedefone]
#7775265 - 12/18/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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thedefone said:
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This reinforces my belief that the verm used to roll the cakes in after a dunk should also be sterilized
Pasteurize that stuff. Only sterilize your initial substrates, i.e. grains and BRF jars.
He can sterlize the verm. You only have to pasteurize things with a nutritional value. As verm is an inert piece of rock, it doesn't matter if you pasteurize or sterilize. It is the same as sterilizing your needle or jars.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: Nibin]
#7775311 - 12/18/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have never had any problems using it straight out the bag.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7775341 - 12/18/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You only have to pasteurize things with a nutritional value. As verm is an inert piece of rock, it doesn't matter if you pasteurize or sterilize. It is the same as sterilizing your needle or jars.
I understand what you're saying, but then why bother doing either? Anyway, Hush, did you dunk your cakes together, or separately? Be on the lookout for more contaminations if you dunked a cake that was contaminated in the jar, with others that weren't.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: thedefone]
#7775691 - 12/18/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Luckily I dunked them each in it's own pint size jar so I hope this was the last of any contams, then again, all cakes were in the same terrarium so I still might have to keep an eye on any kinda of white stuff growing outside the cakes.
My initial reaction was to sterilize the verm but now I really think this jar was the one that smelt different from the rest and was already contaminated before I dunk + rolled. If it was the dry verm that caused it, it would be safe to assume the rest of the cakes would also grow contams and this is not the case.. so far..
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: c0_hush]
#7776604 - 12/19/07 07:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah that was lucky, but there is a downside to dunking in the jar.
They dont get enough pressure to force water into the substrate.
Submerging the cake under water works better, the furhter under the water the beter and the pressure is greater. This reyhdrates the cake better.
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Re: *PIC* What's this growing on the cake??? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7776752 - 12/19/07 08:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's trichoderma, and it came from the cake, not the verm. Trich mycelium is white, snow white. Only the spores are green.
However, as for sterilizing verm, I do it when the bag has been opened for awhile. If using a brand new bag, I usually don't bother. It's easy to do by just putting the dry verm on a cookie sheet and baking in the oven. RR
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