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Salvia extract taken sublingually?
    #7773860 - 12/18/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard the Mazatec indians chewed salvia leaves for it's psychedelic effects. So I'm wondering if I could place some salvia extract under my tongue and experience similar effects as they did.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: Individual]
    #7774225 - 12/18/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I believe it is active absorbed through the mouth, but don't know for sure.

Try a dose and let us know if it works.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: Individual]
    #7774245 - 12/18/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

People have asked this, but I haven't heard any success stories.

I would just buy the leaf, it's pretty cheap.

Otherwise, you could soak it in ethanol and dilute with water to make a tincture.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: Compass]
    #7774292 - 12/18/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ive heard a few people at my school say it works.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: newlife]
    #7774344 - 12/18/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

10-12 pairs of large leaves are chewed vigorously for 15 minutes or
a kind of well pulverized drink is quickly drinked which has the same amount.

1/2 that or less does not work at all
not chewed vigorously does not work at all.
under tongue does not work at all

even pure salvinorin kept in the mouth does not work.
it is not naturally soluble in oral fluids. it is a waxy crystaline solid.
it has to be vigorously spread into the oral tissues or it needs to flood the gut (i.e. quickly drink well pulverized milk shake) to get any reasonable absorption

however there are expensive liquid extracts that can work sublingually, or if swallowed, but they are very costly and require lots to be taken to work well.

finally you save a lot of money if you just smoke an extract quickly and purposefully, no torch is required, easy easy easy.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7774357 - 12/18/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I tried it with extract for half an hour. it tasted horrible and just made me salivate so much that anything that possibly would have been absorbed failed.

didnt work IME


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7774614 - 12/18/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I remember reading a report of a dad who took a single liquid hit of salvia and just ended up blacking out and going into some sort of fit and knocking shit over and flailing, eventually breaking a bone and waking up in the hospital


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: AJ4U]
    #7775003 - 12/18/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

From the salvia research center on quid's

http://sagewisdom.org/faq.html

A quid is a rolled up cylinder of fresh leaves. The quid method traditionally uses fresh salvia leaves, large ones if available. Rehydrated previously dried leaves can be used if fresh ones are unavailable; there seems to be little loss of strength due to drying and rehydration. The quid method produces effects that begin more gradually and last longer than is the case with smoking. Unlike smoking, the quid method does not damage lungs. Unfortunately the quid method does not work for everyone. And some people find the bitter taste of the leaves unpleasant.

The following is a recipe for using a large dose of leaves by the quid method. It can produce strong effects in sensitive individuals.

Note: This recipe calls for 16 leaves which is a large dose. A smaller dose would be safer for novices, using fewer leaves is especially important if exceptionally strong leaves are being used.

Method: Make two quids of about 8 leaves each. Chew the first quid for 15 minutes, chewing once every 5 to 10 seconds. Keep the quid under your tongue between chews as this maximizes sublingual absorption . Swish the saliva around your mouth from time to time. Do not swallow or spit unless necessary. After 15 minutes of chewing, spit out the remains of the first quid . Now, if you are not already as high as you want to get, begin the second quid. Chew this exactly like the first for 15 minutes. When that 15 minutes have gone, spit out the quid. Of course if you feel you have reached the level you want, just spit out the quid before you get higher than you want to. A few minutes after you spit out the quid you will start coming down. During quid chewing, have a bowl handy for spitting into. Make sure it is a bowl that wont tip over, as you will get pretty uncoordinated! Keep a towel handy in case you drool. The taste of chewed leaves is unpleasantly bitter but most people won't vomit. However, keep that bowl handy!


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: Overclock22]
    #7775027 - 12/18/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so how far can you go with quid?


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7775052 - 12/18/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Im assume as far as you could through smoking, just make another quid after the first.

Many people say smoking salvia is just shortening a quid trip.

I like quids because they last a nice solid 45-60 minutes. Enough time to enjoy the trip and make sense of it. Getting blasted off every now and then is fun to though.


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: Overclock22]
    #7775057 - 12/18/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Can you blast off into "Space" with quid?


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Re: Salvia extract taken sublingually? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7775121 - 12/18/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My plant is still just an infant so i don't have the experience to tell you but when i say blast off i mean the sudden reality brake that extracts can give you. Quids have a slower come up im to understand. Try  a small quid with extract and find out for us :awesome:


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