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InvisibleBandersnatch
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Some neat finds.
    #7773479 - 12/18/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Went out today for a walk in the rain and thought I'd look around to see if I found anything interesting.

I found these two different types of mushrooms growing next to each other (and a few others that were not in as good condition)

Anyway here they are. If anyone wants to try to ID them, feel free and I'll provide other info if anyone wants to know.





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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7773527 - 12/18/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What color are the spore prints?

Are there more photos, possibly some in their habitat?

What is the substrate that that second one is growing in?


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7773540 - 12/18/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The spore prints are still in progress but I'd bet on that second one being a creamy white color.

I don't have any habitat photos but I can tell you they were growing in a little garden by the sidewalk at a gas station under an ornamental tree and some bushes. They just seemed to be growing out of the bare dirt but there could have been some buried material.
I still have the mushrooms here so if you'd like a specific picture of some part of the mushrooms or another angle I can do that quite easily.

Like I said, they seemed to be both growing out of the bare dirt in the garden there but there could have been something buried. The mycelium seemed well established as the mushrooms (all the specimens) were rooted firmly and they had a range of a foot or two from each other.


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7773571 - 12/18/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What is the gill attachment like in both specimens?

Does the second one match Lyophyllum decastes?


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7773630 - 12/18/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)




The gills in the first type of mushroom seem to be adnexed while the gills of the second type of mushroom seem to be subdecurrent as in the Fried Chicken Mushroom that you linked to.

Actually I was thinking it might be the fried chicken mushroom but I feel pretty n00bish about identifying mushrooms still and wouldn't trust my judgment fully yet. However the caps of these specimens seems a much darker grey than I've seen in photos of Lyophyllum Decastes.


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7774153 - 12/18/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The ones in the first photo are Amanitas, but I don't see enough to try to guess which subgenus they're in.

The second ones could be lots of things. Lyophyllum is a pretty good choice. I would also consider Tricholoma and Clitocybe. I wouldn't discount L. decastes just because of cap color - that species is pretty variable.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7775490 - 12/18/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So the spore prints are sort of a reddish tan for the first one and white for the second one.

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The ones in the first photo are Amanitas, but I don't see enough to try to guess which subgenus they're in.




What distinguishing characteristics do you see that identify them as Amanitas? I'm just curious because most I used to think all Amanitas had a volva and/or annulus, but I know that's not universally true.


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7775678 - 12/18/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like the spores we can see on the stem of photo # 1 are a good indication of the color.

I guess I'll call it a Cortinarius, but maybe someone else has a better name for it.


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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7776261 - 12/19/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

for the firt ones i will go with toxic man and for the last one i was considering tricholoma also but try not to cut the stem are very importand for id in fact every part of the mushroom is use for id, please make a corect id if you like to eat that and be sure what can you eat, id mushrooms is not as looking pictures all feutures should not be over looked,
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Re: Some neat finds. [Re: cactu]
    #7776319 - 12/19/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Tricholoma seems like a good guess for the second one.

I cut the stem on it to show the inside and determine the flesh consistency. I left at least one stem of each type uncut to show as a whole example (as you can see in the second set of photographs.

I don't intend to eat them, I just enjoyed collecting them and trying to ID them myself.

Thanks for the comments.


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