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InvisibleIcelander
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Buddha & Jesus,etc.
    #7773236 - 12/18/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

We tend to give these guys more credit then they deserve IMO. It's true they had some excellent ideas and insights but that doesn't mean they were right about everything or knew it all. We tend to get sucked into believing these guys were perfect.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (12/18/07 10:00 AM)


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7773258 - 12/18/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Kinda hard to tell without knowing them personally, isn't it? Based on the writings about them, they seem like they were pretty enlightened.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7773304 - 12/18/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

jesus think he was the son of god. buddha showed people the pathway of enlightenment. he didn't think of himself as a god or someone of great power.

to me they are no more then just men.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7773318 - 12/18/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Silversoul said:
Kinda hard to tell without knowing them personally, isn't it? Based on the writings about them, they seem like they were pretty enlightened.




Exactly. We assume much and know little.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Groomies]
    #7773468 - 12/18/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Groomies said:
jesus think he was the son of god. buddha showed people the pathway of enlightenment. he didn't think of himself as a god or someone of great power.

to me they are no more then just men.




How do you know?


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7773492 - 12/18/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lies and idolatry make for good business.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7773519 - 12/18/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

religions that instill gloomy, guilt-ridden outlooks on their clientel aren't that great in the first place.


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is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7773987 - 12/18/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
We tend to give these guys more credit then they deserve IMO. It's true they had some excellent ideas and insights but that doesn't mean they were right about everything or knew it all. We tend to get sucked into believing these guys were perfect.




Unless you ever spoke to them personaly, i wouldn't take anything away from them. Sure, the were human capable of human mistakes, but they treaded in waters that others have not. Their names have lived on throughout millenia, which is enough reason to believe that they represented, is something that we still have to concern ourselves with today.

Even if they never existed, the connotations their images embody are of great value.

If everbody walked around preaching the same codes of divinity, we would not be where we are today.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7773998 - 12/18/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i wouldn't take anything away from them. by the same token you don't need to give anything to them either. We don't even know who they were and if what is attributed to them actually came out of their mouths.

And you are totally guessing that others did not tread that path before them and come to those realizations. Really now I don't think Jesus said anything that new.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (12/18/07 02:22 PM)


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7774102 - 12/18/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I will give credit to those who try to speak and live as buddha and jesus (and the etceteras)supposedly did.  And I'm not speaking of any sort of fundamentalistic lifestyles or views here.  I'm speaking of the luuuuuv :heart::mushroom2:


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7775442 - 12/18/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
We tend to give these guys more credit then they deserve IMO. It's true they had some excellent ideas and insights but that doesn't mean they were right about everything or knew it all. We tend to get sucked into believing these guys were perfect.



God is perfect, Jesus is God, Jesus is perfect.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: fivepointer]
    #7775483 - 12/18/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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fivepointer said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
We tend to give these guys more credit then they deserve IMO. It's true they had some excellent ideas and insights but that doesn't mean they were right about everything or knew it all. We tend to get sucked into believing these guys were perfect.



God is perfect, Jesus is God, Jesus is perfect.




:hamsterdance:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7776580 - 12/19/07 06:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Who's we?


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: Icelander]
    #7776742 - 12/19/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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We tend to get sucked into believing




Well there was this one time I was getting sucked
and she made a believer out of me. Maybe not perfection but close.


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Re: Buddha & Jesus,etc. [Re: fivepointer]
    #7776914 - 12/19/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

fivepointer said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
We tend to give these guys more credit then they deserve IMO. It's true they had some excellent ideas and insights but that doesn't mean they were right about everything or knew it all. We tend to get sucked into believing these guys were perfect.



God is perfect, Jesus is God, Jesus is perfect.




Brilliant.:crazy2::ass:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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