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    #7770620 - 12/17/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am thinking about getting a job in a restaurant. People seem to enjoy it, but I'm not sure if I would ot not.

Is it fun or stressfull?

Without experience, is it worth it to bus tables and work up?


I just have a short fuse sometimes, and I know how working these types of jobs can be. I don't want to flip out on some customer, or manager who thinks they are the shit.

I want to meet more people my own age, and not work such a regular shift...

but some things inside me tell me to just do what I know, and dont worry about having fun


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770627 - 12/17/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Stressful.. I used to work at Red Lobster and it sucked balls.. I mean if you love working with people thats good but in a diner your working wiht needy, bitchy people..

Do what you got to do though man..


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770635 - 12/17/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it's what you want to make of it, just as any other job. I made great money table
hopping, had plenty of fun. take everything with a grain of salt and make sure you
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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770656 - 12/17/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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root-ninja-tak said:
I am thinking about getting a job in a restaurant. People seem to enjoy it, but I'm not sure if I would ot not.

Is it fun or stressfull?

Without experience, is it worth it to bus tables and work up?


I just have a short fuse sometimes, and I know how working these types of jobs can be. I don't want to flip out on some customer, or manager who thinks they are the shit.

I want to meet more people my own age, and not work such a regular shift...

but some things inside me tell me to just do what I know, and dont worry about having fun




my first job was a dishwasher at this upscale club. that was a fun job. i think because i worked with a couple of my friends though. bussing tables is ok. not too bad as far as stress.

being a server, stressful. i hated serving. because i too have a short temper with stupid people. and there are TONS of them out there. although when i start school i may have to get a job serving again. :nonono: not looking forward to that.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7770659 - 12/17/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's stressful, but not too bad. I wouldn't start as a busser though, that's a shitty job usually reserved for those under 18. Just say you have had prior experience else where. That's what I did for my first waiter job, worked out well.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Innominate]
    #7770669 - 12/17/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I had to start out as a busser because in CO people under 18 cant serve alcohol.. Bussing sucks, hosting sucks, dish washing sucks.. but waiting is where the money is at.. When I was a busser I would get like 20 dollars in tips when the servers would walk out with $100-150


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770676 - 12/17/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what Pris said ^

Personally I've only worked at two different jobs waiting tables, a sushi bar, and a coffee shop. Both were extremely chill environments with cool managers and happy loyal customers so I had a great time.

I've heard of some people working in the restaurant industry that have nightmare experiences, I never had any such experience. The closest I had was bitchy annoying customers that make a huge mess, but that's far from a nightmare, just an annoyance. It's what you make of it, and if you can deal with the really annoying people in a nice and courteous manner, it makes it that much easier for the nice people. However, I have a pretty high level of patience for idiots.. it seems most people don't.

Like Pris said it's the customers that pays your paycheck so keep that in mind. Offer them quality service and 99% of the time they will appreciate that. Then maybe they will recommend the place to their friends, or they will come back another night and demand to have you as their waiter... usually fat tips are involved in both of these situations. Treat your customers right and they will treat you right, that's what I learned.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770703 - 12/17/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I worked w/ food twice once as a busboy the other as pizza delivery. I hated both.

Working in food service is NOT for me. I worked Sunday morning (one of the busiest time to work) and the pay was decent but I didn't like it at all


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Shroomism]
    #7770711 - 12/17/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It really depends where you work and how easy the shit is to make, it takes a little while to learn everything, but I had lots of fun at mine smoking pot in the freezer, at the dumpster, and finally we started smoking right in the kitchen, I would do coke there drink, pop pills, Listen to music all the same stuff I did off work. The place didn't do good business, it had busy days just not enough.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Shroomism]
    #7770715 - 12/17/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the feedback

I hope I can find a job, it shouldn't be hard at all. Just seems overpopulated in a college town. I would honestly prefer to skip the whole bussing thing, because I can only imagine how shitty of a job that is, but i'd still do it.

If I were to lie about previously serving, is there anything I should really know before I start laying my bullshit?


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770750 - 12/17/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Never put your hands in your pockets
Always have change on you just in case (some places you make your own change, you're your own bank)
Establish a serving pattern. Count people off and serve that way every time.
Get their drinks right off the bat and any appetizers if they are ready.
Push desert and alcohol, the more the bill the more they tip usually.

etc..

Edit- and memorize the menu ASAP.

I keep thinking of things- If you have a busser you usually tip them 5% of what you make. Bussers makes your life a hell of a lot easier when you are busy.

Get the food when it's HOT.

Never take more than you can handle.

Always ask if they want refills on drinks. ALWAYS. Most of the time you should be able to tell when the glass gets lows. MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR DRINKS!

Don't be afraid to ask fellow servers for help if you are swamped.



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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7770786 - 12/17/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have been thinking about getting a job serveing I am pretty good with people and I have worked plenty of fast food places


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Dobie]
    #7770802 - 12/17/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Busing tables seems to be the ideal job if you are working inside a restaurant. I used to wash dishes at one, and I'll never do that again.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Innominate]
    #7770810 - 12/17/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Always have a smile..
Pay attention to your guests, if they are lookin around they prolly need something..
Watch their glasses and stay on top of refills..
Get dishes out of the way..
Relate to them, treat them like your family or friends no matter how bitchy they are..
Remeber your table numbers..

To lie about previous experience... list a diner that is in a different state not a big named one but like a family owned one and say you worked there when it was under different management..


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Dephect]
    #7770864 - 12/17/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

One piece of advice. If your going to work in a restaurant, dont work for a chain company. Go for localy owned and operated. Way less rules and most of the time a much more laid back experience. IME.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: xaeviax]
    #7770885 - 12/17/07 06:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How much money are you gonna be making?:strokebeard:


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: xaeviax]
    #7770911 - 12/17/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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One piece of advice. If your going to work in a restaurant, dont work for a chain company. Go for localy owned and operated. Way less rules and most of the time a much more laid back experience. IME.




Yeah, man. But chains are a pretty good place to get started if you've never done it before. They usually have a really comprehensive training program. Of course, it's a little indoctrinating, but you learn all the basics.

A lot of the time, they don't pay you for training, but the money is great. I love cash on hand. And when I was a busser at a nice place, I made a lot. Like close to $100 on the weekends.

Once you figure it all out though, get out of the chains and find a really awesome locally owned hole in the wall.

I think the best thing about serving is the lifestyle, you make a pretty good hourly wage once you factor in tips, and a lot of the time you get "free" alcohol. And, unless you work at a breakfast place, you never have to wake up before nine.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: xaeviax]
    #7770914 - 12/17/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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xaeviax said:
One piece of advice. If your going to work in a restaurant, dont work for a chain company. Go for localy owned and operated. Way less rules and most of the time a much more laid back experience. IME.




yeah I never worked at a chain and if you read my post some where up above you'll see all the stuff I did. A lot of those chains are busy all the the time with only maybe an hour of slow time here and there.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7770951 - 12/17/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone think the hours get old? I would assume I'd be working lunch 11 to 2/3 and dinner 4-10 a few days of the week.

People I've known who've served usually bitched alot about their hours, but I never understood why..

But I have been working 7am-7pm 5 days a week for the last 5 years. I did not enjoy not being able to attend some weekly nights in town, or whatever.

Just trying to figure out what im doing before i do it.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7771024 - 12/17/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Heh... I was annoyed of the hours because I would work 5-11pm at nights, and my guild in warcraft started raiding around 9pm, so I missed a lot of raids (Yeah, I'm a huge nerd... so what). I assume most people bitch about the hours because it cuts into their social life.. social lives are overrated anyway :P. Other than that though, I loved the hours. I didn't have to go in until 11pm... I would work until 2:30pm and then get to go home and rest and do whatever for a few hours.. until the dinner hour. On a really good night at the sushi bar I could take home ~$200 in a single night, including lunch service, just from tips alone. Those repeat customers are where your money is at.. after a while you get a feel for who are the good tippers and who suck ass. And in my experience, the people that give horrible tips also demand the most service and are the most ungrateful customers. The fat tippers are usually the most respectful, and gracious. They will ask nicely but won't make stupid demands on you, and are very understanding when you are swamped with 30 customers or whatever.

But like the people above said, just make sure you customers are happy. Generally, you want to find the balance between checking their tables often enough, and not checking every 10 seconds and annoying them. Most people will let you know when they need you, so you just have to keep your eyes peeled on your tables and look for body language. If you see drinks getting low that's usually a good time to check on them and get refills. When they are finished with a plate take it away so they don't have a dirty dish sitting on the table. Generally, once people get their food.. you'll only need to go back to the table a few more times to refill drinks and make sure they have everything they want.

It can get kind of chaotic when you have 5 or more tables to serve all at once, that comes with experience.. but one thing that helped me was to picture a diagram in my head of the tables and give them numbers and sort of sort it by like who got their drinks first etc etc. But in that situation, your best bet is to just approach everyone's table regularly and make sure you are on top of things. As a general rule you don't want anyone sitting around with nothing for more than 5-10 minutes. ALWAYS get them their drinks as soon as they sit down, if your place uses appetizers make sure they get those within 2-3 minutes of getting their drinks. That gives them time to look over the menu.. when you come back with appetizers they are usually ready to order. Just make sure you know where each of your tables are in the process... once people have their food its a lot less to worry about.

It's easy to lie about serving experience I would imagine. Like someone said just cite some family owned restaurant in other state or something. As for me I didn't lie, I just said I didn't have any direct serving experience but that I was a fast learner and a hard worker... and how else could I get serving experience if I don't start somewhere? That was enough for him.. he started me off just serving the bar or one or two tables at first then slowly moved me to serving the whole restaurant (which was only 9 tables and the bar), but still.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7771045 - 12/17/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It can for some people because your missing out on the things that go on at night like concerts, parties. But you don't have to worry about waking up early, I work 3rd shift so i feel like I got all the time I need to get things done i might not get much sleep but at least it's easy to get things done.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7771147 - 12/17/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'll make like 400 bucks during a good week, working 30 hours busing and running food. It's a good gig if you can get a good flow going.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7771209 - 12/17/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i've only worked in one restaurant, but it was my experience that working up required constant harassment of the owner and the showing of an eager will. i worked as a busser, a host, a dishwasher as needed and eventualy persuaded her to make me an asst. chef, as i am a much better chef than a customer service person. i found it stressful as all get out, but not always in a distressful manner. the biggest trouble i had was communicating that when i cound't keep my head above water on a slammed day, it was because the requirements where unrealistic and that the work-load wasn't being well distributed. with the bussers doing most of the work with the patrons, the dishwaser actualy did almost as much work as the wait people per top. many days i was the only buser for three waitresses or the only dishwasher when the dinner rush exploded and had to convince a stubborn employer that accomodations would have to be made. in a state where the minimum wage was the federal, i had to constantly pressure for a raise and try to create opportunities to improve my work to convince this employer that i warranted them, aside from and beyond my willingness to take last min. shifts, work any position, work two positions in the same shift, etc.

this all made it an involved and politicaly orriented job but at the same time, helped me learn business better and most of my co workers where great. my employer was pretty cool most of the time and i would do it again, but might also consider drinking on the job.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: canid]
    #7771415 - 12/17/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I work two serving jobs, it is the slow time of year (december) and I make like 500 a weekend... obviously some of that goes right back out, food ect. But still a job that can be super fun if your the people pleaser type and super shitty depending on your clients.

One thing to remember... if you enjoy what your doing people will see and feel the good energy = better tip... and don't let a bad tip or multiple bad tips get you down, always another table and things have a way of working out.

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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7773031 - 12/18/07 08:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Thanks for the feedback

I hope I can find a job, it shouldn't be hard at all. Just seems overpopulated in a college town. I would honestly prefer to skip the whole bussing thing, because I can only imagine how shitty of a job that is, but i'd still do it.

If I were to lie about previously serving, is there anything I should really know before I start laying my bullshit?




that you will not get away with it.

Your first nite on the floor and you will be exposed for a liar and a noob.

start as a a busser.


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Re: Working in a restaurant [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7773035 - 12/18/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sorry, ya"ll

Dint mean to resurrect an old ass thread.

sorta forgot where I was relative to the new posts.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7773036 - 12/18/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i cook, it sucks you get burned + the girls you work with are usually gross


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: Z0S0]
    #7773047 - 12/18/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've been a litle afraid of that,i mean worst case scenario, i dont have a job anymore, i think its worth a shot. but learning menu + table + operation while bussing might work towards my advantage instead of jumping in head first.

we'll find out today :smile:
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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7773054 - 12/18/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have met some a the most soulful people working in the industry. In fact I love it. Good luck and happy hunting.


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7773091 - 12/18/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Man, you got a bunch of responses to this..

Innonminate (and others) definitely gave you some good advice:  your customers are key, treat them like royalty.

Be careful about which restaurant and position you choose.  Chains usually do suck, but privately owned ones can suck just as much or more.  I worked at a private restaurant for 5-6 weeks once, and I didn't mind the work or the people, just the fact that they lied about my starting wage and wouldn't fix my paychecks (the place was going into debt).  Now I'm working in the prepared foods department of a health-food grocery store, which isn't a restaurant, but I still make pizzas and work in a kitchen.  I'm really happy working for this corporation (good benefits, interesting people, not a lot of work).  So try to talk to the employees before you start to get an idea of the work environment.

As for busing, no, do NOT start out busing because in a lot of cases, you'll never move up.  The restaurants I've worked at, the bussers stay bussers and the dishwashers stay dishwashers until they quit.  Establish yourself early on, cook or serve.  If you serve, sometimes the shifts are dead and you leave with $30, but other times (Friday nights) are insanely busy and you leave with a couple hundred.  Cooks get a steady paycheck, so it tends to just about even out.  For you, I'd suggest cooking because in your original post, you made it sound like you don't deal with people so well (and people can suck when it comes to their food).

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i cook, it sucks you get burned + the girls you work with are usually gross




Yea, you get burned or cut and you smell gross at the end of a shift (regardless of which position you hold), but you'll be fine if you're careful and shower afterwards.  And IME, I've only met a handful of unattractive women in the business.  There are at least 5 attractive ladies I work with that I can think of right off the bat.  So if that's important to you, check out the employees before you start.

Good luck! :fancycook:


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Re: Working in a resturant [Re: tak]
    #7774745 - 12/18/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

working at a restaurant is fun. especially if you have a good crew.

were you thinkin about being a server or working in the kitchen?

Being a server is fun. you'll get a few tables that suck, but for the most part it's ok.

but i wouldn't suggest making it your only source of income.

then it'll become stressful.


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