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MushroomTrip
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jonathan_206 said: Just letting pweople know I am still alive. I am in a psychiatric hospiltal right now. Not much time to type and it would take to time to explain but I hope I get out soon. As of now I've changed my name to Ai not artificial intelligence, but ai as in aye captain, it in chinese for loving.
Hope to talk to everyone later, and hope you all think for yourselves.
Good luck jonathan, get well soon
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Hi Ai. Glad to see a post from you.
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jonathan_206 said: Just letting pweople know I am still alive. I am in a psychiatric hospiltal right now. Not much time to type and it would take to time to explain but I hope I get out soon. As of now I've changed my name to Ai not artificial intelligence, but ai as in aye captain, it in chinese for loving.
Hope to talk to everyone later, and hope you all think for yourselves.
glad to hear you're ok, jonathan! hope you get out soon
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jonathanseagull
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I just saw this. I'm glad you've found your way into helping hands. Ultimately, you must help yourself. In the future, when you return to read these posts, I believe they may help you organize the situation in your mind. Many many people go through what you are experiencing now. I have. To label it, I'd call it a psychotic break. Many times, its a schizophrenic episode, often times with messianic qualities. That's what psychologists would call it. But you don't have to call it anything.
Having gone through it myself, I believe that I was previously completely mentally unhealthy, no matter how well I functioned. This was due to many reasons. The break-down really turned out to be a break-through. My cruddy foundation crumbled, and was replaced with a much more healthy and sturdy one.
The coming times will be trying times. You may experience existential issues with greater depth and understanding. Not just knowing about them, but a deeper realization of them. It may seem like a burden, but you'll find that it is also an opportunity for higher awareness and freedom from past problems. You'll gain a much broader perspective of self, others, and the world. You may begin to see that your "delusions" weren't completely delusional, but "mythological" and "archetypical". Don't take them literally, but percieve the symbolic meaning and how they relate to you and to all of us. Don't fight the changes that are being made in your world view. Take the time to become comfortable in them and relax in them.
I'm just trying to give you some words of comfort for your future. Remember that there have been many many many people who have gone through the same experience. I would look at it as a rite of passage. You were ready.
Check out some certain books, such as Joseph Campbell's "The Hero of a Thousand Faces", or Stanislov Grof's "Spiritual Emergency", as others have already recommended in the thread. Check out this blog: http://spiritualemergency.blogspot.com/ . It is about the experience you are having. If you need some optimism, try: http://spiritualrecoveries.blogspot.com/ for some recovery stories, and how almost every person tells how they wouldn't change their experience for anything, because it made them a much better person. It is a gift. It's an amazing opportunity for growth. Choose to see it with wonder, amazement, excitement, and joy, despite the truly hard times. Gain insight into your own thoughts and behaviors. You will look back and be like "damn, that was rough. But it was awesome. I'm so much more healthy and happy nowadays."
Rock on, Jon.
P.S. Another very short book you may enjoy that might offer insight into the experience is "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" by Richard Bach. You are much like the Jonathan of the story, flying high and far, only to return happier and more helpful to those around you.
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I hope I get out of here real soon. They're making me take respiradol and I'm also taking adovans for my stress because it gets so bad. Hoepfully I'll be out by next monday. Then I will hopefully feel better. I'm getting ready to say say hello to a new me.
Ai
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Hopi
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The voices - they're trying to confuse you. It's alright - calm down, accept things for what they are. You're just a normal human being, getting annoeyed by normal spiritual entities. They'll be gone soon enough. Take it easy, enjoy the small things in life. Have some tea with friends, take a nice warm bath. Go for a walk, sit in a cafe and watch the world go by. We're not in on the conspiracy, we're not ignorant. The doctors are going to help you. It's going to be fine!  Hope you get better!
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spiritualemerg
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Re: please help!! [Re: Hopi]
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Hello Ai: Glad to hear that you're feeling better. Sometimes people need a bit of assistance when they're going through an experience like yours. I hope that you're feeling a bit better. Meanwhile, here's a few links that may be helpful to you at some point in the near future.
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What is a Psychotic Break? : A brief explanation of the process you've been through. Bear in mind that different cultures and settings may have different names for this experience. In this culture, the label most often applied is psychosis although I think "ego collapse" would be more appropriate. (I'm using the term "ego" here to refer to one's sense of self-identity.)
epocrates.com : epocrates is an online database that can help you research and understand more about the drugs you've been given.
How To Rebuild Your Life After a Breakdown : This link can help provide you with a bit of insight into how other people have successfully moved through this experience.
Those are just a few basics to get you started because what people need or want in the aftermath of such experiences will vary by individual. For example, some people simply want to put the experience behind them, others will find it necessary to understand what their experience was all about -- some may want both or something else entirely.
Obviously, there are others here who have undergone similar experiences and might be able to provide some support and assistance as you move on from, and integrate this experience into your life.
I hope you'll continue to pop in and let others know how you're doing and what you might be needing at that time.
Best of luck to you.
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implee
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I think the hospital should leave him in a room with some shoe laces for a while.
LOL OMG ROOOOFL
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No god. No satan. Everything........is. That's all.
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Are you a man of science? Just step back and look at yourself from outside the box. Meditate on this, when a voice or they appear, simply focus on that and nothing else. After your level of comfort has dropped and you become alarmed look at what popular opinion tells you. Regardless of the facts, your beliefs including your perception of reality are separate from others. You need to search for the self you were before this and then apply that to your new system of belief. Something has changed, it's that simple, you didn't just become aware of it, it was never there.
If anything you need to be chill about the entire situation, take it in and exhale it out, slow your breathing and relax. You need to find meaning in yourself and hold on to it tight because if you slip into the oblivion you're describing that's the real tragedy...
You are right about one thing, you can make them go away (the mind is a powerfully thing!) Just imagine yourself being a happy person, emulate this by thinking it over and over, do you feel a change?
If you start thinking suicidal thoughts or begin to find yourself in a helpless situation: seek knowledge from a professional, they really can make you focus on reality.
The best of health to you and think about one thing for me. If this was a genuine belief of yours, why would you post it in the mental health and well being forum?? Somewhere deep inside your subconscious, you are reaching out for help, so listen to your mind.
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