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OfflineRoseM
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Re: please help!! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7770074 - 12/17/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A diagnosis such as this can't be made over the internet. Not by this group. Doctor or shrink. Either will help more than we can.


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InvisibleEternalCowabunga
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Re: please help!! [Re: Rose]
    #7770087 - 12/17/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am confident that I would be more help to jonathan than either a doctor or a shrink

check out this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7041323


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OfflineRoseM
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Re: please help!! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7770092 - 12/17/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Confident enough to take the liability that comes with the responsibility?

I am glad you feel that way.

We've all helped people.

But this is not the place for such discussion... nor is this the group to lead it.


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OfflineMushroomTrip
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Re: please help!! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7770095 - 12/17/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

And I am sure that the only one who can help joanathan is himself.
And that a good therapist might help. A lot.


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All this time I've missed you
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Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
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Re: please help!! [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7770116 - 12/17/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree. I just didn't want jonathan to end up in some mental hospital where he gets pumped full of drugs every day or something like that


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Re: please help!! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7770128 - 12/17/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I know. :frown:
Me too.


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Re: please help!! [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7770132 - 12/17/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

get better jonathan :frown:

:heart::sun:


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Re: please help!! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7770222 - 12/17/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wish people would address the facts.

I'm truly worried that people are not thinking for themselves. I wonder If even I am.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7770258 - 12/17/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

jonathan_206 said:
I wish people would address the facts.



The fact is that we have all read your post and have concluded that you show signs of psychosis. Please see a psychiatrist. We're all worried about you.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7770485 - 12/17/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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They have told me I am the ONLY ONE




You have told yourself you are the only one. There is no 'THEY'.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7770497 - 12/17/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not to scare you Jonathan, but the two Shroomery member suicides in the last 6 years both had posts/mental states similar to yours.

Listen to your friends here - get PROFESSIONAL help ASAP! :heart:


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Re: please help!! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7770728 - 12/17/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You have told yourself you are the only one. There is no 'THEY'.




I think it's a given that standard methods of logic are inapplicable in this instance. Please consider that I really am hearing voices, just like you are reading my words. You assumed, assume again.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7771000 - 12/17/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

AH please change my name


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7771059 - 12/17/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

unless you are making this up as a joke, no, you are not psychotic....your word is a lot to process right now... but i've been through what you were going through. Let me ask you this, what chain of events seemed to trigger this change in though pattern- concept of god, voices, etc. Were you sleep deprived, taking a lot of mushrooms, smoking a lot of pot and reading? You are obviously having panic attacks and high levels of paranoia due something, and cannot process all of the signals that come to you because of it. Calm down a sec, take vitamins, get plenty of sleep, stay away from caffiene...do breathing exercises- try downloading a guided kundalini breathing technique or read about some.

your friekin out about your role in life. Most of us here know that the workings of the world are highly influenced by many systems, -whether its the illumnati, masonites, the media, etc. these things poison your mind if u react to these subliminal messages with such a fight or fligh fury. chilling out is the first step to understanding. that's the only way you control your own thoughts.
if you want anyone to take you seriously, you have to take us and our advice seriously. you continue to ask if anyone out there understands. are you not reading the posts? several of us have been through this type of thing. it was scary as shit when i went through it several years ago.
You MUST use mental control on yourself in order to make decisions. I didn't go to councelling then, but i do now, and it helps, but i don't divulge everything to them. Only enough to let them know i'm friekin out. After you breath and try to stop your thoughts for a sec, go to an herb store. Buy some Chamomile-can be teabags or loose flowers. Gets some Skullcap as well. one capusule before bed. This will help with frustration. Chamomile helps to calm your adrenaline down enough that you can think for your self. There are other herbs to help, and don't be scared that these will rob you of your thoughts, they only allow you to relax enough that you can process all of the many things the world throws at you. Good luck. and please take our advice.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7771345 - 12/17/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The part about God and the devil being the same thing intent on your destruction is a problematic judgment call. It might not be true.


It is quite possible that you have been deceived by the devil into thinking that the devil and God are the same, when they are in fact distinct beings. The good news is that God is greater than the devil and God will prevail in your life if you only remember that God is good.

Be well Jonathan


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Re: please help!! [Re: biospun]
    #7771428 - 12/17/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How can I be calm when why my entire reality has been shaken and there is a being inside of me that can project lies at my mind and heart, and constantly verbally attacks me with a number of other unseen entities that sound like creepy aliens harrassing me day and night?

I'm not sure If I want to take any drugs. I have doubts that they're even meant to beused. I am confused and I wish some people would come talk to me. I tried to smoke weed the other night and things got worse, I'm not sure If I want to try it again.

Now they were trying to tell me I am God and we are ying and yang and I have to achieve nirvana and suffer in the fires hell for thousands of years and then I will forget and they will destroy this place all over again in a never ending cycle. It is constantly about hell, they go back and forth.They really like to focus on hell and pain alot. I'm really confused honestly. The other one was that I am seperated from my other half or parts and we somehow have to make it back together again. It all sounds so rediculous I know it does, but I can't make this being get out of me, and I tried to tell my Dad but I think these beings influenced his mind. They are nasty evil creatures.

They tell me that there is darkness in light and light in darkness. There has to be a truth out there. I am convinced love is greater than evil, but they want me to believe it's not, that we are inseperable and eternal.

If they were just aliens from another world I would accept that a whole lot easier.

I don't even want to masturbate because this being inside of me tries to turn it into something nasty. They have been doing this for a long time. They have been haunting me for a long time. They try to get me to move and use my body in a way that is wrong. I can feel their evil presence, it's so nasty.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7771539 - 12/17/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

God will still be good, even if you are not.


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7771625 - 12/17/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Breathe
go for a jog
walk in the woods
do some stretches
take a hot shower and just feel the water
stop thinking

you're just a human, you don't know anything


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Re: please help!! [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7772451 - 12/18/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

you are movement, a gleam of desire put in motion by your forefathers. hell is resistance to coming into your essence. hell is love burning your false impurities away so you realize your nature through a clean mirror. hell is standing with your back towards heaven, your backside will be ignited. you identify with your mind, which reflects you into this world which is nothing separated outside of mind. it is all the same out there, nowhere in no(w)space outside of time. you make it based on complicated patterns, endless links of filters organizing the chaotic flux of incoming void into an illusory perception of some kind of order. the devil is gods trickster boy who mess up your head until you give up completely and find that the only way out is through. this trickster boy is of course only a metaphor for certain forces, or certain qualities of life. actually hell might be burning you until you see it is not you who is on fire, the whole house is burning. then you wonder who is doing the looking, but i never found him. there is only looking. and a peephole hot as hell.

the door to heaven can be located in the bottom of hell. you see, everything is a circle. you are having some major revelations that will take a long time to process.

imagine hell and burning in hell as a metaphor for experiencing reality. the eternal wheel of samsara fueled by burning desire. This motion could not be fueled by perfection as perfection implicitly would never move out of itself. to move is to stretch towards something outside of oneself in space. but it is all you, you move in yourself, and are therefore never moving. this makes everything the same.

the part about you being the only one is linked with the part about you being scattered. It is ALL YOU. You are separated for the sake of union. Love is separated for the sake of union. holy means whole means hole means void means love means glue.

Light is darkness and darkness is light. This experience you are having will probably culminate in an impressive realization about everything being different sides to the same coin, and also about how every extreme culminates in its' polar opposite.

keep in mind that hell, love etc are just words. then forget. breathe and relax.

relax relax relax.


Edited by dorkus (12/18/07 12:50 AM)


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Re: please help!! [Re: Grav]
    #7772453 - 12/18/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Jonathan,

Welcome to the other side. Consider this your trial by fire.

You've peeked, and now you see how deep that rabbit hole really is.

Now relax and read on for a second.

Its really a lot simpler than you're making it out to be. Your natural response to such profound a vision is to take immediate and urgent action. Realize there is no urgency.

The cycles you see are absolutely real, but they are things of beauty my friend, not of sorrow.

These voices you hear, they're real alright, as real as anything can be real; but why do you listen so intently?

Just because they are there? Does merely saying something make it true?

Don't let the novelty of this particular magic trick get the best of you. You are listening to opinions, opinions designed to shake and rattle the foundations of your existence.

There are no rules anymore Jonathan, lets be smart about this.

Jonathan, return to yourself. Use the intelligence that brought you here to build yourself into total awareness, apply logic. Ask for explanations, and as you said, don't assume.

Read this post again, and for fucks sake get some fucking sleep bro.


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