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Chronic7
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The psychedelic experience
#7769646 - 12/17/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anyone here had a guide take them thru the instructions at the back of this book?
Because it must be AMAZING!!!
I'm going to read them next time i trip on entry and re-entry but having Someone read them to you must be so intense.
I'm also going to make a list of "mantras" from the book and from Buddha quotes to refer to when tripping, I'm just worried the words will make no sense at the time, like when your stoned you have to read the same page twice to get the point (well i do anyway!)
Any thoughts or experiences???
ps this is the second post within a month where ive made a post about this book because, SO many members of this community seem to have either forgotten or ignored its teaching. Patience and acceptance are 2 things this community is definately lacking. I blame crystal meth and cocaine
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: Chronic7]
#7770163 - 12/17/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i havent read this book but i've heard its not so much a book about tripping as it is a guide to use WHILE tripping, which intrigues me much more. How much does it cost?
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Chronic7
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: Coaster]
#7770290 - 12/17/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im glad i wasnt readin this thread while tripping that rabbit is bad!
I have a trauma from watership down and those evil fucking rabbits man, i saw when i was like 3, now all rabbits are evil to me! (only playing)
haunting soul.... ITs an old book man you can probly pickit up sumwhere for fiddy cent, but its not that much on amazon.
I re-read it again 2day, and the back has the guides for reading when tripping, but whatever you do dont ignore the 1st 3/4 of the book. unless youve read ALOT of tibetan buddhism already.
It is the ultimate trip manual if there can ever be such a thing labelled that, the universe is my trip manual though
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notapillow
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: Chronic7]
#7773545 - 12/18/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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that book, is esensialyu useless sorry its out dated and was created for the wrong ressons. it has very little to offer do your ego a favor and strike out on your own.
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: notapillow]
#7773562 - 12/18/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find TPE to be an excellent resource. Its authors unspoken dogmatic stance on this being the more or less "only" way to trip doesn't appeal to me, but I've just finished reading this book for perhaps the tenth time in ten years and it's only just beginning to make that much more sense to me. The text is also quite thick and not as clear as it could be...definitely not as clear as the primary clear light it discusses.
But in my opinion, it is definitely worth your time.
Why do you think it was created for the wrong reasons?
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notapillow
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it was created to float sinking egos. and to help steer the mind through eternity. much like the book of the dead tries to do. i feel it barly, barly has anything redeiming between its pages, infact i think it gives alot of horrible advise. like usiong speed and or dmt, to propell someone out of a manic episode... it was written for a diffrent time. i just think leary and the whole millbrook crew stoped sooooo far short of anything they set out to do.
if you want a book that will actualy aid you while tripping be here now is the best IMHO loads clearer, cool pictures to relate to, and less egocentric just my 2 cents
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: notapillow]
#7773620 - 12/18/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, Be Here Now is a good one, too. I don't agree that TPE's intentions are to help float the sinking ego (I'm not quite sure what you mean by that) and I don't think it was created to help steer the mind through eternity, though I doubt I'm understanding your meaning correctly. Its aim is to help the psychedelic voyager maintain ego loss and unity/oneness.
In any case, I do think I get your general meaning with steering the mind through eternity. I don't see that as being the wrong reason for tripping, though. For me, ecstatic unity with All That Is is the reason why I primarily trip.
The book definitely doesn't tell the entire story of the psychedelic experience, but nothing does. That's for us to explore and further.
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: notapillow]
#7773622 - 12/18/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm... at first i was going to say you can have the experiences without reading the book or following the instructions, but now i can't remember if i read the book first...
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: truekimbo2]
#7773637 - 12/18/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you can definitely have the experiences without having read the book or been introduced to the ideas. It's just a guide for what already happens during a psychedelic journey.
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: truekimbo2]
#7773645 - 12/18/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read that book before I tripped for the first time. I think it does a good job of explaining just what "ego death" is in wacky mystical terms and serves as a basic primer for the meditational/spiritual side of tripping. However, I can't see myself actually using it as a guide during a trip; it's all so set in stone, and as someone else here mentioned, ironically egotistical in its assumptions. I prefer to be my own navigator.
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notapillow
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i had hundreds of trips before i found that book in my freinds parents storage locker. they gave it to me and i read it, i gotta say, i just dont dig it.
what i ment by the floating of sinking ego is they give you too much info, things too look fopr, things to remember , things to cling too. it seems to me that the book would only help ground you in your own being. it reads like an istructinal manual, wich it is not. it "says if you encounter 'this' leval of being, do 'this' to counteract it" i dunno stuff like that. that book has always been laughable too me i dunno just like most of learys stuff
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HappyTripping
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Re: The psychedelic experience [Re: notapillow]
#7773678 - 12/18/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, one thing we can definitely agree on, without any cause for questioning: Leary was a crazy loon. The only wise thing he ever said was the quote about taking LSD is only as dangerous as a four-year education at Harvard University.
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Quote:
oscarwilde said: Well, one thing we can definitely agree on, without any cause for questioning: Leary was a crazy loon. The only wise thing he ever said was the quote about taking LSD is only as dangerous as a four-year education at Harvard University.
lol
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redgreenvines
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i think it is the wrong set of things to look for.
arising and passings of sensations thoughts and feelings should be observed efforts should be made to be relaxed and observant. no preconceived notions is best
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