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mad genius
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Need Some Verm
#7769438 - 12/17/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know you guys are gonna say look at the sponsors, but i just wnated to know what is the best and cheapest place to get some verm on the net. All i can get around here is horticultutral grade and its just not working the way i want it to, or as fast as i have heard from others about the medium grade stuff. thx.
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Molasses
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hmm... horticultural grade works fine for me
But i like buying things in person and only order online if its the only way i can get something ie. spores or wicked cool shoes they don't stock at our half assed excuse for a mall
sorry for the rant, but i'd call around to garden supply stores first
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mad genius
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Re: Need Some Verm [Re: Molasses]
#7769502 - 12/17/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh god ive called everywhere. I thought I found a place and drove and drove like 40 minutes to get there only to find it was horticultural grade. I WAS SO FUCKING PISSED, seeing as how the stupid bitch on the phone said it was like pebbles and not like sand (because the dumbass didnt know it comes in different grades and i had to explain it in childrens terms). Believe me i would rather find it in person too. Anyways theres no way around it, I need to order it.
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You should consider killing her.
Just order it mang, not too expensive, shows up pretty quick.
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mad genius said: I know you guys are gonna say look at the sponsors, but i just wnated to know what is the best and cheapest place to get some verm on the net. All i can get around here is horticultutral grade and its just not working the way i want it to, or as fast as i have heard from others about the medium grade stuff. thx.
what do you mean its not working the way you want it 2? have you used the horticultutral grade an if so what went wrong
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verminute
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Vermiculte is used with gas fireplaces, since it doesn't burn - you should try local fire place suppliers or whatever the fuck you call 'em.
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Re: Need Some Verm [Re: verminute]
#7770048 - 12/17/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, why specifically has horticultural grade not been working for you? How are you using it? It seems to work for most people.
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I bought the wrong stuff one time, the fine verm. worked fine for me, but I perfer the coarser verm. So you dont have to buy so much you could always order some coarse stuff then mix it half and half with the finer verm. works fine IMO.
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mad genius
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Its working but its working waaaay to slow. The horticultural grade verm colonization time is killing me. I inoculated my first set of jars, on 11/19 and they're still at like 75%. Im hoping the medium grade helps with the colonization time.
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Are you doing cakes? If not why are you putting verm in your jars?
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Molasses
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what size jars are you using? pints take forever, but i still use em.. haha
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Re: Need Some Verm [Re: Molasses]
#7770238 - 12/17/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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half pints. doing cakes for some, spawning to coir for some. have some half pints of bird seed to that will be spawned to coir. if this mycelium ever gets to 100% colonization.
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I doubt the type of verm you are using is the reason for slow colonization. Incorrect moisture content, no gas exchange and packing the verm down tight can slow down colonization considerably. I nearly always used horticultural verm (Home Depot 4cu ft brown bag with red writing) and never noticed much, if any difference in colonization times.
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Re: Need Some Verm [Re: FooMan]
#7770409 - 12/17/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FooManShroom said: I doubt the type of verm you are using is the reason for slow colonization. Incorrect moisture content, no gas exchange and packing the verm down tight can slow down colonization considerably. I nearly always used horticultural verm (Home Depot 4cu ft brown bag with red writing) and never noticed much, if any difference in colonization times.

Horticultural grade is what you want. Check your moisture content and gas exchange if colonization is slow. Also check that you used fresh brf, not old stale stuff. I use fine verm and pf cakes colonize easily in two to three weeks. RR
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I saw some at lowes off in the corner of the garden sec. See if you have a hydroponics shop were you live, they carry giant bags for $20
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you should try pint jars with cooked brown rice by itself... from my results all i can say is "HOLY SHIT" i've got fully colonized jars using LC in 7 days and thats ALL NUTRIENTS =] kind of expensive but still worth every penny and spawning with whole rice is amazingly easy. Some added vegetable oil helps to prevent the brown rice grains from sticking .
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mad genius
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RogerRabbit said:
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FooManShroom said: I doubt the type of verm you are using is the reason for slow colonization. Incorrect moisture content, no gas exchange and packing the verm down tight can slow down colonization considerably. I nearly always used horticultural verm (Home Depot 4cu ft brown bag with red writing) and never noticed much, if any difference in colonization times.

Horticultural grade is what you want. Check your moisture content and gas exchange if colonization is slow. Also check that you used fresh brf, not old stale stuff. I use fine verm and pf cakes colonize easily in two to three weeks. RR
Well the 3:1:1 jars are going very slow. And the 2:1:1 jars are moving a little faster but not much. I bought my BRF from wild oats, its already in flower form. Should i make my own BRF? How do i check for gas exchange? The verm i have is like sand, thats horticultural right?
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BUDDHA_702 said: I saw some at lowes off in the corner of the garden sec. See if you have a hydroponics shop were you live, they carry giant bags for $20
They also have decent-sized bags near the gas fireplace accessories, for $7.
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2:1:1 is the ratio I always stuck to. Yes, make your own BRF. It's as fresh as it gets. Get a little coffee grinder from KMart/Walmart/Thrift store and use it to grind whole brown rice from your grocery store. Just make sure the brown rice you buy list only brown rice as the ingredient and nothing else. The horticultural verm is pretty fine, but sand? There should be some slightly larger pieces mixed in with the sandy stuff, maybe about the size of a small piece of perlite. It should look like "fat" sand. As far as gas exchange goes, you should have holes in your lids with a dry top vermiculite layer in your jar. If so, take any tape or foil you have covering the holes off so that the CO2 can escape. If there is no dry verm layer, then you'll need to cover the holes with Tyvek or micropore tape.
Also, did you pack the jars down or leave the substrate pretty loose in the jars?
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