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did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions
    #7768589 - 12/17/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

did a) mushrooms and/or b) LSD make your psychological conditions worse on the long term in any way?
like causing depressions, decreasing abilities to think logically and clearly, increased anxiety, being more (too) or less (too little) sensitive to emotional stuff, being more confused?
personally lsd made me analyse even totally unimportant stuff too much, which draws away my concentration from "useful" matter, i got these thought loops, which i can't stop
on the one hand, it's beneficial sometimes, since i make up my mind about stuff i didn't before, but it gets quite exhausting at times, since i don't want to waste thoughts, time and energy on matters, that actually seem quite unimportant and ridiculous to me
also, acid made me take myself and the world around me too seriously
i'm offended by stuff, people say (to me) more easily and i became more sensitive overall, good on the one hand, bad on the other
what about you?


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: spammaps]
    #7768592 - 12/17/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Acid has done the opposite for me in taking everything too seriously.

After I've done my fair share of acid, I see how much bullshit there is in the world, and how many fake people there are.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #7768729 - 12/17/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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marshalldylan1 said:
Acid has done the opposite for me in taking everything too seriously.

After I've done my fair share of acid, I see how much bullshit there is in the world, and how many fake people there are.




Same thing for me.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: spammaps]
    #7768743 - 12/17/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They vastly improved/eliminated most of my psychological problems. One thing that might be negative is I tend to notice things more. Particularly trees (especially grass or leafy trees, things that are "complex") and shines. I don't think this is a physical change. I noticed these things on psychedelics and now look for them in real life. I can easily block them out, but sometimes when I don't, people notice I'm gazing at random things or I look zoned out. I only say this is negative because it's not normal, but I have no problems with it myself.

btw, I'm predisposed to major mental illness (heredity) and I'm the type of person generally advised not to use psychedelics at all. But I've noticed no ill effects. On the contrary, people with mental illness should be the first in line to be treated with psychedelics (under the guidance of a professional, because I lost faith in people awhile ago. IMO, most people who use psychedelics will fuck it up by mixing drugs or doing something dumb).


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Quake3]
    #7768756 - 12/17/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah man, me too about the trees. I always am looking at them. They are so beautiful after I have used psychedelics.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #7768793 - 12/17/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no.

psychedelics healed my mind

they made me open my eyes and actually see


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: pong]
    #7768870 - 12/17/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks to mushrooms I freed myself from drinking and hard drug addiction, embraced Zen Buddhism, became more creative and have my manic depression far more under control than when I was on prescription drugs.

I am so utterly thankful for the 50+ trips I have had over the past five years, without them my life would not be as joyous as it is!


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #7768915 - 12/17/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The only 'psychological condition' I could say I've had was a long standing major depression... I have a much easier time with it these days, psychedelics play some part in improving my control, meditation and good general health are also important.

I found the few times I have used psychedelics fairly frequently (more than once a month) I have had a bit more difficulty settling for thinking about the mundane parts of life. I am more interested in creative thinking etc. It's a good effect to have in moderation but it can hinder your ability to get work done if you don't limit it.

I do have a very flighty attention actually, I could easily get a diagnosis for ADD if I were into that sort of thing. I guess psychedelics marginally worsen my ability to keep my attention, but only temporarily... and sometimes they have the opposite effect if I have a particularly interesting subject to spend time thinking about.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #7768966 - 12/17/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think psychedelics have givin me a little bit of social anxiety, and at times I kinda feel paranoid like everyones looking at me. But I almost guarantee all of that will go away once I quit smoking weed. :shrug:

But the ways psychedelics have changed me in positive ways definitely outweigh the negatives.

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Yeah man, me too about the trees. I always am looking at them. They are so beautiful after I have used psychedelics.





That's exactly how I feel. :thumbup:



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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #7769018 - 12/17/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly, I used psychedelics to see how far I have gotten with my "psychological problems" (Subjective Mind Garbage)

So basically what I would do, is "work on my mind" in sobriety (usually through art therapy, intense introspection, meditation, and general conversation between everyday travellers) After all the days mental work was done, I'd strip all the work apart, lay down the pieces (in an order I was sure I could assemble said thought structure back again) and test it against the psychedelic at hand (Salvia excluded, unless it is to test an immediate idea or feeling; Salvia definatley has the weirdest memory/fading signal ratios to the the context of the NOW)

After I worked out my problems, I'd trip, and lay out my self naked and see if I was going to be raped, loved, or left alone by the drug.
I have never been mentally raped, and all my tests against myself using the drug have been at best Amazing and Unspeakable, and at the very least nothing.

So I guess I don't get my work done WHILE tripping, but allows me to have a "bird's eye view" of my Mental Garbage. Using the Bird's Eye View I can see if I am being a good Boss/Employer to the Elves that live in my head; The elves are controlled by the Dwarves, though. Both of them try to keep the Aliens from invading, at bay.

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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: spammaps]
    #7769105 - 12/17/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A couple of scary mushroom trips left me paranoid, and jumping at my own shadow for a few weeks afterword. Also some minor hppd, and feeling like i was still on the comedown all the time.
That went away, but come to think about it, must have left some sourt of lasting impression.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: spammaps]
    #7769150 - 12/17/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dramatically increased anxiety and a lack of humour resulted from excessive cannabis and mushroom use

heavy (for me) lsd use has actually kind of changed a lot of this recently, although it feels like my brain works differently, i can make a fool of myself and not be thinking/worrying with what other people think [to the point of it interfering with having fun], and i've been a lot more outgoing lately too


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7769158 - 12/17/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In general I think psychedelics have healed me of alot of big issues, but sometimes they do leave scars in their place from the intensity. For me it is anxiety at times, or weird thoughts trying to analyze existential stuff.

However, I think this is more a product of me ignoring difficult elements of a trip and then moving on to the next one without fully resolving the last.

I do feel I am much happier and sane person, but it does come with a knowledge of both heaven and hell and deep pain or fear.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: demiu5]
    #7769238 - 12/17/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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a lack of humour resulted from excessive cannabis and mushroom use





That's odd, I feel psychedelics have increased my humor, sometimes I find the dumbest shit hilarious.


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    #7769617 - 12/17/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Chronic7]
    #7769653 - 12/17/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

increased my everyday empathy. made me see the "lightat the end of the tunnel" i have slight mental aftereffets (mostly from lsd and recently, dmt) but nothing unenjoyable.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: 2859558484]
    #7769669 - 12/17/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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increased my everyday empathy. made me see the "lightat the end of the tunnel" i have slight mental aftereffets (mostly from lsd and recently, dmt) but nothing unenjoyable.




Ive only ever done shroomz and weed (psychedelic) i get after effects, usually a dense head  then days/months after i get little flashes out the corner of my eye, i like to think of them as glimpses of Doors to other dimensions, which can be "explained" by quantum physics :wink:

I also get lots of hallucinations when i smoke weed with tobacco or drink certain kinds of alcohol. Lots of Cevs.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: 2859558484]
    #7769670 - 12/17/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Acid helped me get over my depression.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: 2859558484]
    #7769676 - 12/17/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

xanax and my anxiety

when I quit doing opiates and benzos ive been having like anger attacks and anxiety... I also get super moody like i'll cry at night for no reason occasionally. when I used to do opiates and benzos and drink everyday I'd just workout and put people in their place all the time. I was an asshole to everyone and I was content now i'm all confused all the time and squirly moody ect

and I haven't slept in a while so this prob doesn't make complete sense


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: flavoraid]
    #7769700 - 12/17/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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xanax and my anxiety

when I quit doing opiates and benzos ive been having like anger attacks and anxiety... I also get super moody like i'll cry at night for no reason occasionally. when I used to do opiates and benzos and drink everyday I'd just workout and put people in their place all the time. I was an asshole to everyone and I was content now i'm all confused all the time and squirly moody ect

and I haven't slept in a while so this prob doesn't make complete sense




doing drugs that supress emotion is only putting it off, eventually you gotta feel something, i used to drink and smoke to forget


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions *DELETED* [Re: Chronic7]
    #7769809 - 12/17/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: EarthboundBob]
    #7769838 - 12/17/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You shouldn't call it a condition.

Some people are fat.
Some people are skinny.
Some people are buff as fucking hell, other people are pale, meek, some black, white, etc, goes on for a while...

Physical.



Mental/Psychological/Conscious/whatever you like:

Some people think this way.
Some people think that way.

Just because your mind isn't your average 6ft 200lbs white male, doesn't mean you have a "condition", get what I'm sayin'?


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7769878 - 12/17/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

your right its a state not condition....one thing i strongly disagree with is the labeling of different mind states as diseases and conditions. then the prescription drugs come along to make our children "concentrate" its sickening.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Chronic7]
    #7770138 - 12/17/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes psychidelics can be a dog in a field of buried fish heads.
The dog being the psychidelics, the field being your subconscious and the buried fish heads being repressed isues....

And we all know dogs got a nose for buried fish heads.

I'm from texas btw.  :cool:


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Quake3]
    #7770157 - 12/17/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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They vastly improved/eliminated most of my psychological problems. One thing that might be negative is I tend to notice things more. Particularly trees (especially grass or leafy trees, things that are "complex") and shines. I don't think this is a physical change. I noticed these things on psychedelics and now look for them in real life. I can easily block them out, but sometimes when I don't, people notice I'm gazing at random things or I look zoned out. I only say this is negative because it's not normal, but I have no problems with it myself.

btw, I'm predisposed to major mental illness (heredity) and I'm the type of person generally advised not to use psychedelics at all. But I've noticed no ill effects. On the contrary, people with mental illness should be the first in line to be treated with psychedelics (under the guidance of a professional, because I lost faith in people awhile ago. IMO, most people who use psychedelics will fuck it up by mixing drugs or doing something dumb).




I can relate to that... not like I am that experienced but I sort of noticed the same thing afterwards


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Fraggin]
    #7770159 - 12/17/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LOL! best analogy EVER!


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Fraggin]
    #7771090 - 12/17/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Sometimes psychidelics can be a dog in a field of buried fish heads.
The dog being the psychidelics, the field being your subconscious and the buried fish heads being repressed isues....

And we all know dogs got a nose for buried fish heads.

I'm from texas btw.  :cool:



Very good analogy. Probably best point on this thread.
Everything works out for a reason. Just go with the flow everything will be alright. It is just a different way at viewing things. And you see the truth.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: demiu5]
    #7771476 - 12/17/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dramatically increased anxiety and a lack of humour resulted from excessive cannabis and mushroom use





i noticed that a lot after a long acid binge last year. i became somewhat anti-social and didn't get along with my friends very well for a while. of course, i was tripping alone most of the time and dosing almost every weekend for 2 months.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: JT]
    #7771488 - 12/17/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, mushrooms made me gay, soooo.....








juuuuust kidding


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: g00ru]
    #7771742 - 12/17/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No, 'shrooms haven't worsened any of my psychological conditions. If anything they helped. After tripping ('shrooms) my O.C.D. seemed to become less severe. Although, I had read that 'shrooms could have that effect, so maybe I was just looking for an excuse to quite obsessing compulsively.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #7772551 - 12/18/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

After I took LSD, I am much more appreciative of looking at things. Also, my sensitivity to the beauty of music has increased ten fold. I underwent an artistic bang which still continues now. I always loved drawing, painting, etc. to a great extent. Now, it is like a crack addiction for me. Writing, movies, drama, my appreciation for all of it has increased. During my trip I also underwent some kind of seizure of pure love for everything, where it felt like someone took one trillion syringes, filled them with condensed love, separated every single cell in my body and injected them all with it simultaneously. I think some of that is still in me today.

Shrooms gave me great appreciation for meditation, despite my bad trip. A negative thing I underwent is every time I smoke weed, I feel stoned and like I'm shrooming. This is pretty frustrating, because they were both great separately. Now they're pretty inseparable.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: handicappedrat]
    #7772681 - 12/18/07 02:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

after my second real strong mushy trip i sort of umm snapped and have never been the same since but fuck who whants to be normal that shit is weak people i know think im nuts man but fuck em i just bought 12 hits o acid goin on a binge with some buddies when i get home hells ya


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Chronic7]
    #7772684 - 12/18/07 02:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no in fact i think they help its like flushing your mind like a toilet refeshing


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Chronic7]
    #7772703 - 12/18/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I had a bad trip, and after that EVERYTHING got worse, always feeling paranoid, unable to sleep, "flashbacks" leading to anxiety attacks when I smoked weed, causing me to quit completely. I also had H.P.P.D. for this time. Then I started working out & eating healthy, and I started to slowly "psychologically heal". Then I planned this "do or die" trip where I was going to "face the demons again" and try to actually overcome them, instead of drinking in an attempt to abort the trip like I did the first time. and guess what...

I DID IT UP LARGE LIKE 90. My life is back to normal (actually, I have more confidence in myself now).Now I try to use psychedelics only about 4x a year (I was going pretty hardcore when I had the bad trip).


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: CMACD]
    #7773293 - 12/18/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sigh...as soon as things get uncomfortable people always try to fight the drugs. You gotta just go with it.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Ness1]
    #7773352 - 12/18/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You gotta just go with it.




That's right.

And then you have to take it a step further, and "you" has to "go" away and "it" has to "gotta just" -- .

Basically.

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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7773377 - 12/18/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Heh. But yeah, I have never had what I would label a "bad trip" because I haven't ever tried to fight it. I just let it happen. If things started getting difficult I would either let the problem resolve itself or do something to change the mood e.g. changing the song or introducing some positive thought into the thought loop. Never try to out-and-out break a negative thought loop.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Ness1]
    #7774632 - 12/18/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms made me ultra depressed. But in a good way.

They opened my eyes and finally made me go "what the fuck, why do I live the way I do? I need to finally take the initiative and fix it."

At the same time of the depression, they showed me the inner strength I thought I had lost - helping me overcome it
:peace:


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: spanky43]
    #7774840 - 12/18/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

after doing some acid i definitely got into way way over thinking things.

in my opinion smoking or mixing drugs can cause after effects.




Nothing permanent though. if you are concerned about it, stop smoking weed (while tripping especially?) and always have 2 or more weeks between trips.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: Chronic7]
    #7775069 - 12/18/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i overused shrooms and acid and it worsened my depression and social anxiety disorder and made me think really weird, like getting caught up in stupid things which didnt even matter. at the time i thought it was great, the way i thought. but after a break i realize how much better my thought process is now and how much more enjoyable life is.

i took a break and now feel so much better. ate some acid the other night and had the most amazing trip ive ever had in my life. got so many things worked out in my head and its been 4 days and i still have a really positive outlook on things and am super happy. (a really long afterglow??) proves how much moderation is needed. i think ill trip once a year or something.


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Re: did psychedelics worsen any of your psychological conditions [Re: retrospect]
    #7775342 - 12/18/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They majorly screwed me up and gave me extreme depression,anxiety, anti-social behaivior etc. when I overdid it. Moderation is key, and after a lot of personal work I'm fine now for the most part. :smile2:

I'll never be the way I was before I took them,though. You can never really go back. I don't really care though because I don't think the way I was before was that great anyways. In ways in repressed me, in others it gave me strong personal and spiritual growth. It depends on whether I want to see the glass half empty or half full if I can call the effects on my life and personality positive or negative.


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