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InvisibleEllisDSox
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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7772826 - 12/18/07 04:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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All meat is organic.

Is the lion nice to the zebra or does the zebra bray and flail as it is eaten alive?

This food chain with all of its blood, pain, and gore is the way that the all-loving, all-merciful God designed it.




I take it you are 100% self-sufficient and hunt for all your food, without the use of tools. You brave lion of a man.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #7772990 - 12/18/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

One thing about vegetable protein sources is that they are all high in soluble fiber so if you rely completely on those, your body will feel like a fish tank with gas bubbles rising inside it all day long, causing cramps and making you fart excessively until your ass is sore.

I'm 6'5 and I have to get at least 150g of protein/day to avoid looking anorexic, but unfortunately the vegetarian route is infeasible because of what the soluble fiber does. That being said, I highly recommend quinoa as a source of complete protein (yep, complete!) You can cook it and use it like rice, but it is a seed and therefore will give you gas.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7773021 - 12/18/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

EAT THEM ALL!!!!!! if i could feed you animal lovers to the cows i would. then i'll eat the cow.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Groomies]
    #7773042 - 12/18/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

man-made cattle feed :puke:


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7773131 - 12/18/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I do not think that you could. Without consuming meat or dairy there is no good way to reach 2 grams of protein for kilogram of body weight while staying under 2400 calories a day with all of the required nutrients. With soy it is possible, but soy (particularly fermented soy) is not all that healthy in large quantities. You could argue with your stack of books, but my stack is just as high. In the end it would get nowhere.

Note: I said that animal protein is important to MY health goals. Your health goals are not mine.




Spirulina for one example is 60% protein and nutrient dense. Things like hemp, other algae, quinoa, millet etc. can round this out. You just need to get outside of the cultural box and learn about the possibilities. You could do this easily if you wanted. There are awesome bodybuilders and athletes who are vegan or vegetarian.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Groomies]
    #7773133 - 12/18/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Groomies said:
EAT THEM ALL!!!!!!  if i could feed you animal lovers to the cows i would. then i'll eat the cow.




Spoken like a true patriot.:thumbup: I bet you let Jesus tell you how to live too.:monkeydance:


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7773161 - 12/18/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I said that you cannot gain a large amount of muscle on a vegan diet easily. For someone who is not very physically active a vegan diet can suffice, but to engage in the activities that I am pursuing strength and endurance are a must.

Yeah this vegetarian looks very inactive.http://vegetarianbodybuilder.ipbhost.com/uploads/post-74-1141605327.jpg


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InvisibleEllisDSox
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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Icelander]
    #7773251 - 12/18/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

See what happens to pansy vegetarian? That one there turned into a woman.

I'm actually a vegetarian, and it's easy to get enough protein without having negative effects. The Shaolin monks are vegetarian, and they could kick the crap out of any meat eating body builder.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Icelander]
    #7773337 - 12/18/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

maybe (and this is a big maybe) but MAYBE

if you were in some kind of "bodybuilding program" and the point was to gain muscle mass as fast as possible, maybe then you would need additional protein supplements beyond unrefined vegetarian foods

maybe


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7773397 - 12/18/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nope.  :grin:


Perhaps this discussion would be more appropriate elsewhere?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7773384/an/0/page/0


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Icelander]
    #7773497 - 12/18/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

jesus? HA! if i could feed him and all his BS to the cows i would. then i'll eat the cow. MUHAHAHA


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Groomies]
    #7773555 - 12/18/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone disagree that moral vegetarianism is masturbation?


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: xFrockx]
    #7773557 - 12/18/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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xFrockx said:
Does anyone disagree that moral vegetarianism is masturbation?



How so?


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #7773579 - 12/18/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

there's three types of people in this world:

Those who enjoy eating dead animal flesh and do so regularly
Those who don't enjoy eating dead animal flesh and never do so
and those who are undecided / don't care
:pope:

and no, we can't all "just get along". not yet anyway.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Silversoul]
    #7773594 - 12/18/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Because animals, and people for that matter, have lived and died on this earth for so long that it doesn't matter what they do at all. This earth could explode for no reason and the only thing that would the universe would lose would be a speck of dust in its vast creation.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: xFrockx]
    #7773631 - 12/18/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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xFrockx said:
Because animals, and people for that matter, have lived and died on this earth for so long that it doesn't matter what they do at all. This earth could explode for no reason and the only thing that would the universe would lose would be a speck of dust in its vast creation.



What does this have to do with masturbation?


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7773651 - 12/18/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I like to eat cows, pigs, and assorted avians. No one will stop me. I know how much they suffer before they die, but I'm hungry...


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InvisiblelIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl
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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: Silversoul]
    #7773653 - 12/18/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Silversoul said:
Quote:

xFrockx said:
Because animals, and people for that matter, have lived and died on this earth for so long that it doesn't matter what they do at all. This earth could explode for no reason and the only thing that would the universe would lose would be a speck of dust in its vast creation.



What does this have to do with masturbation?




he means that the earth could explode at any moment like a giant penis


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #7773656 - 12/18/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I sat the fence about eating meat for many years. The deciding factors for me were:

1. Inhumane treatment of animals, which I object to both because it goes against my values to abuse and torture other sentient beings, and because of the toxic chemicals released into the meat (which will later end up in the body of whomever consumes the meat).

2. The incredible amount of evidence showing both the negative health impact of eating meat and dairy, and the increased lifespan and health span enjoyed by vegetarians and vegans. Too many of my relatives have destroyed their health and impaired their ability to enjoy their life by eating poorly and being sedentary. I want to be youthful and healthy now AND in the future, and the evidence indicates that a vegan diet and an active lifestyle is the best way to achieve this.


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Re: Do you think it is good to eat other animals? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7773764 - 12/18/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Close.

I was alluding to the fact that like masurbation, moral vegetarianism is an activity that it may feel good, but really you're just screwing yourself...


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