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Re: Global Warming - Your views [Re: Silversoul]
#7772907 - 12/18/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe, maybe not, but there are absolutely no humans on Venus, yet it suffers from global warming as well...that is all that it means, can it be correlated to the Earth? who knows...global warming is a scheme cooked up to make Americans give up even more of their freedoms, yet another scare tactic. While I think it is a good idea to go green, I also think that the earth has been here a little over 4 billion years in the state it is in now, and that the Earth would ass rape humans measly little 20000 year existence if she wants to...While the globe is warming, I am in strong belief that we as a human race have nothing to do with it.
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Re: Global Warming - Your views [Re: supra]
#7773100 - 12/18/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i dont know why so many people insist that there is no scientific proof that we are causing global warming.... if you pick just about any climate scientist on earth, theyll tell you that humans are causing global warming...this is what these people do for a living, they study data they acquire about our planets climate... yet most people, who have never studied the climate at all, or climate history, or the climates of other planets, point to our climates history, and the climates on other planets to explain why we are not the cause..... it just seems so stupid, that scientists put out hundreds and hundreds of peer reviewed studies on global warming, and yet your average lay person's response is to say that they have seen absolutely no proof of it, having never read, or even considered reading the actual scientific literature
if you want proof, you have to make an effort to learn some basics about the climate, and then read some of the thousands of peer reviewed research papers by the worlds leading climate scientists
before you proclaim that there is absolutely no proof, and all this is just a scam.... why dont you actually make an effort to learn about the situation? the literature is there, so why dont you read it and then come up with some points to refute the overwhelming scientific evidence? instead of just saying 'hey, venus has some greenhouse gas problems, thats proof that humans arent doing it' or 'the earth has gone through many cooling and heating cycles before we were here, why should we think we are doing anything to affect the whole planet?' please do your research and know what you are talking about before saying that its all based on bad science, cause im pretty sure that most of the people criticizing the science on which the global warming theories are based, wouldnt know a scientific research paper if it bit em in the ass
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Re: Global Warming - Your views [Re: boomer q]
#7773231 - 12/18/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's a bunch of articles by "kooks"(scientists) about global warming:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=global+warming
See how many search results you have to go through before you find one that contradicts the anthropogenic hypothesis.
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Madtowntripper said: It is, by a measurable amount. This is an absolute fact. But as a geologist, I can tell you that this has happened not once or twice, but thousands of times throughout history, long before there were people spewing hydrocarbon emissions into the atmosphere.
Of course it has, nobody is arguing that. What's really got all the scientists in a tiff is how rapidly it's warming.
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Madtowntripper said: What is the most prevalent greenhouse gas?
H20.
Good luck stopping evaporation from the oceans.
You have to be kidding me. Of course there's naturally occuring greenhouse gasses, that's how our planet works! we need a decent amount of trapping gasses to keep the longwave radiation in our lower atmosphere to keep us cool. Look at the moon, if we had an atmosphere (or lack thereof) like that, we'd expereince temperatures as low as -250f every single night! The problem is us releasing thousands of tons of CO2 every year, spewing toxins into rivers (polluting the ONLY freshwater we have), and cutting down trees, which produce arguably the single most important molecule our body uses.
So yeah, you can say it doesn't matter, but we're commiting suicide whether you believe it or not.
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Madtowntripper said:
You could make just as valid a case that in 100 years we'll have legions of atmosphere-scrubbing airplanes that would sail around the planet sucking up all of our industrial flatulence, and hence we can pollute willy-nilly w/out a care in the world.
id like to see someone make that case
also, they already have things which scrub the CO2 out of the atmosphere...called trees. we are cutting down forests at an incredible rate. we have about half of the tropical rain forests that we had in 1990. this is just one of many things humans are doing besides putting millions of tons of the gasses into the atmosphere ourselves. dont you think that these kind of large scale changes to the planet have an effect on the planets natural ability to regulate the ratios of gasses in the atmosphere?
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