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Who else has a hard time holding down a job?
    #7768315 - 12/17/07 05:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously, I'm good for maybe three months, and then I just...stop wanting to work there. So I inevitably quit/get fired.

At my current job I keep missing work. At least 1-2 days every week. I always have good reasons, but still. I can tell they're getting pissed.

I just have a hard time taking work seriously. It makes me always want to look for something new.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768350 - 12/17/07 05:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

same.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768356 - 12/17/07 06:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah,
I know so many bitter old people that have spent their whole lifes working for the man. Big whoop for them lol.

My lifes a party, I find work when I need money but I spend most my time doing what I want to when I want. Thats just the way I am.

Fucking spending my life making money for the tax man to fund his war machine - I'd rather live in a woods and forage than do that permanently.

Its only ass licking career people that give a shit because they spend their whole lives trying to get one up. Realistically work can always be found - work in bar, work as a laborer.

I had to make a lot of sacrifices for my lifestyle though - if I choose to lunch a boring job then I have to go back to the tent instead of keep my crazy priced flat. Its a balance - its just whatever right for you.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768372 - 12/17/07 06:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well you've certainly got my number.

Though I'm usually good for a 6-12 month stint at each job.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Ego Death]
    #7768389 - 12/17/07 06:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Get some fucking motivation and pride in yourself... calling in 1-2 days a week your truly a pathetic slug if you do that - there is NO REASON short of major disease that I would let one of my employees miss that much work.

It's no suprise a bunch of burn outs on here. Basically all you said Ego Death is justification's for you being lazy self-centered piece of shit "do what I want, work when I want, fuck over whoever I want." Oh that's really cool attitude to have, in high school maybe. I guess you probably didn't finish that so that might be where your stuck with your job, maturity and intellectual development.

Anyways I think it's pathetic you can't keep a job because of faults of your own, poor performance, calling in 1-2 days week, or whatever you people do to get fired for.

Ego Death - The bitter old people who spent there who life working for the man, are you suggesting they would not be bitter if they were Homeless, poor and broke instead because that's the alternative. And if you don't like working for the man, why not make YOU THE MAN if your so smart open your own business?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768391 - 12/17/07 06:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

im the same, i think its was the generation we was bought up in u kno, govermant hand outs etc our generation is lazy. and we will get worse in generations to come

i mean look, were constantly striving to find easier ways to do things.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768393 - 12/17/07 06:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Am I the only one that thinks it FEELS GOOD TO BE SUCCESSFUL?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768404 - 12/17/07 06:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think for me, because i have no skills and didn't go to college, because i can't handle school (no attention span... i've been trying for years to modify that)
every payday becomes a horror instead of a joy. the more effort, hours, and energy i put into work the more i become depressed that i basically get no benifit. if i work a 60 hour week instead of a 20 hour week i get an extra... 145 dollars about? and that basically does nothing to enhance my life, while i'm 20 hours plus travel and preparation time poorer...

i'm trying to get into creating my own business, so i can better myself economically on my own terms, and not work so someone else can make most of the profits. your story along those lines really inspired me.

the problem is i'm a slow learner, and slower to act. i'm sure i will find something i can do though by the time i'm 30 or so.

until then i'm happy being broke and not having to work alot.

also i would add i never feel comfortable with my co-workers, because i'm pretty much a loner... and on the other hand having a job where i'm isolated 8 hours at a time isn't much fun either...

its not that i don't want to be successful, its just that the standard methods don't really appeal to me, and its taking me awhile to figure out what suits me.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7768413 - 12/17/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Extra $145 a week is over $7000 per year and you say you can't use that money. LOL

Anyways glad my story motivated you... there is a good book to read called "Success is a choice" by Rick Pateno (basketball coach) I can send it over to you if you'd like I should have an extra copy.

Just hang in there and look for places to get ahead with your businesss. I would work those extra hours for the extra $145 a week that might be the money you need to start your own business and get ahead.

Have you considered untraditional work, selling on ebay, etc>?

I am not saying it is wrong to quit jobs because they are not right for you but a continuous cycle of quitting / getting fired is unacceptable or for the LOSERS so to say.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768420 - 12/17/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i'm not much a saver because i'm so used to being broke. an extra 145$ a week basically amounts to maybe some fresh vegatables and going to to dinner once - 25$, more juice 10$, a small present for my girlfriend - 20$ and then usually another 20$ in snacks i wouldn't normally get and the rest random household shit.

yeah so my point was, i don't really feel any impact at all from working more, with the sole exception of i get to eat a wider variety of food, and drink more juice, the rest of the stuff i don't even notice, but at the same time i'm not going to do without.
the only impact i feel is an extra 20 hours a week of doing something i really don't want to be doing. and so usually after 3-4 months just end up quitting, and not doing anything until i'm on the edge of homelessness, which gets me excited about working and having money again.

yeah i'll pm you about that book.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768428 - 12/17/07 07:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Get some fucking motivation and pride in yourself... calling in 1-2 days a week your  truly a pathetic slug if you do that - there is NO REASON short of major disease that I would let one of my employees miss that much work. 




Well man, I just don't care.  :shrug:  Trust me, my life would be a lot easier if I did give a shit, but I don't. 

So dude...how do you care, man?  You seem culturally conditioned from my point of view.  Is that what it is?  Or is there some secret to being satisfied with the standard 40 hr workweek? 

LET ME KNOW MAN.  I'm desperate to give over my life's time for a few dollars and the feeling that I accomplished something. 

Uh...glad it gives you jollies to work and make money.... :shrug:  :tongue2:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic] * 1
    #7768433 - 12/17/07 07:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Am I the only one that thinks it FEELS GOOD TO BE SUCCESSFUL?



In the same way that it feels good to bone a hooker in the ass? Which is the only real motivation behind making money if you think about it. Pussy. Y'need money to buy all your car decals and spoilers and rims so chicks whore themselves out.

Gotta keep that pussy in front of your face like a dangling carrot, keep you producing.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768444 - 12/17/07 07:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No work ethic = loser

prove otherwise

and MOTH your I don't care defense is screaming LOSER


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768456 - 12/17/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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No work ethic = loser

prove otherwise

and MOTH your I don't care defense is screaming LOSER




Your attitude is equally sad to me simply because I don't see the point in working my life away just to "be successful." 

Success in the eyes of whom?  :rolleyes:  Who are you measuring yourself up against?  If your success makes you happy, then so be it.  Your experience is not everyone elses. 

It's okay with me if you think I'm a loser.  You are caught in a quagmire of judgement.  I'd rather be considered a "loser" then grind my life's hours away at a job that means nothing to me.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768459 - 12/17/07 07:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have had many more attractive women drawn to me as a successful man than some jobless lowlife sellin 50 bags. I'd like to hear some of you argue otherwise. I bet my girl wouldn't give half you the time of day. Sure I might be able to con them into the sack once usually charisma or whatever but keeping them around is another story.
My girl works just as hard as me with the business and coming up with new ideas and such so she's not just along for the 'carrots'.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768460 - 12/17/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Because actual labor barely covers the many facets of creativity. Most jobs don't offer me anything except essentially, the opportunity to trade all my time for money. One day, I realized that I like time more than I like money. That producing tons of shit, for people with lots of money and don't need said shit isn't rewarding in the least, and continues to turn our current world into a monumental shithole of material possessions. The reason I don't hold down a job is because a job doesn't really have much to offer me. I mean, all the better to the people who have steady jobs and all, it's not for me really.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768463 - 12/17/07 07:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I have had many more attractive women drawn to me as a successful man than some jobless lowlife sellin 50 bags.  I'd like to hear some of you argue otherwise.  I bet my girl wouldn't give half you the time of day.  Sure I might be able to con them into the sack once usually charisma or whatever but keeping them around is another story. 
My girl works just as hard as me with the business and coming up with new ideas and such so she's not just along for the 'carrots'.




Sounds like you two are meant for one another.  Congratulations.  :heart:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7768466 - 12/17/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Because actual labor barely covers the many facets of creativity. Most jobs don't offer me anything except essentially, the opportunity to trade all my time for money. One day, I realized that I like time more than I like money. That producing tons of shit, for people with lots of money and don't need said shit isn't rewarding in the least, and continues to turn our current world into a monumental shithole of material possessions. The reason I don't hold down a job is because a job doesn't really have much to offer me. I mean, all the better to the people who have steady jobs and all, it's not for me really.




You said it better then I could.

I still technically have a job right now. I'm going on vacation in a few days, so we'll see. I'm not too concerned about it.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768468 - 12/17/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well I love what I do so I'm not working my life away, and I'm working for MORE THAN JUST ME. all that matters is YOU in your posts ME ME ME ME ME ME not do I hear you once mention that if you don't work who pays for you to live, exist, and your shelter?

what about our flailing American economy- you think going on welfare helps that- oh yeah your answer is "I don't care" probably your answer to any challenging question that might make you apply yourself.

success is not measured by any Richter type scale but one-self can judge success, set goals for yourself and achieve them, maybe you should make it a goal not to work and just be a bottomfeeder picking up what everyone else drops.

worthless slug you are prove otherwise. how do help society?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768470 - 12/17/07 07:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes MOTH a perfect match.

id never date a slug like you.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7768478 - 12/17/07 07:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Because actual labor barely covers the many facets of creativity. Most jobs don't offer me anything except essentially, the opportunity to trade all my time for money. One day, I realized that I like time more than I like money. That producing tons of shit, for people with lots of money and don't need said shit isn't rewarding in the least, and continues to turn our current world into a monumental shithole of material possessions. The reason I don't hold down a job is because a job doesn't really have much to offer me. I mean, all the better to the people who have steady jobs and all, it's not for me really.



If you think your being unfairly compensated just start your own business.

Maybe you should look for work in a service industry where you will be HELPING PEOPLE not contributing to the monumental shithole.

Sounds like a lot of people have uninteresting jobs is the problem.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768481 - 12/17/07 07:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I care nothing for society.  Are you shocked, Raw?  :shocked:  Yep, every word in my posts is about ME because I am in this body.  I'm pretty selfish because it's my life.  I see nothing amiss with that.   

Your every post drips with scorn and it makes me wonder why.  You must really despise people who take it easy.  Why so bitter?  Just accept the fact that you are not everyone and you do not define what is or is not essential in life. 

I'm successful by my own standards some of the time.  And I'm not a bottomfeeder because I still work most of the time, even though I can't stand it.  Sure if I had it my way, I would not work.  But I also need to survive.  Therefore I just switch jobs a lot and take as much time as I need for myself, which is fine with me.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768483 - 12/17/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You can help people without using money, I hope. I mean, otherwise you'd be pretty much absolutely dependent on money. It's a liberating feeling avoiding the money system. I don't fuck anyone over. I get jobs once in a while to pay for shit. I just use a lot less money to live. I'm good with being a slug. Why you hatin' on slugs?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768491 - 12/17/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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yes MOTH a perfect match. 

id never date a slug like you.




:lol:

Your materialism freaks me out. 

*GLOMPS YOU WITH SssssssLIME*  :heart:

My slimy mucus coating is runny now that I know I won't be able to date rawtoxic.  :sad:

boo hoo


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768494 - 12/17/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Flaming is a great way to let off steam...but you can't do it in here! -Bom

I'm done here going to WORK IMAGINE THAT.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768495 - 12/17/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Slugs are actually quite beautiful...one of nature's creatures.



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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768496 - 12/17/07 08:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Internet: serious business


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768497 - 12/17/07 08:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

oh so I'm materialistic because I like having an attractive hardworking mate

LOL


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768498 - 12/17/07 08:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: 69


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768499 - 12/17/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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EDIT:  el flamo.
I'm done here going to WORK IMAGINE THAT.




I wholeheartedly agree that I am damn selfish, I am on the little side, and I can be a flaming bitch. 

Huh.  So what were we arguing about again?  :evil:

Have fun at work, honey.  :heart:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768501 - 12/17/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Anyways glad to know you all think work in life is not important or that you HAVE any pride while doing it.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768503 - 12/17/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Anyways glad to know you all think work in life is not important or that you HAVE any pride while doing it.




Careful about getting the last word, baby...

YOU MIGHT BE LATE FOR WORK.  :rofl:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768508 - 12/17/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LOL I work for myself so I can go in whenever I want :smile:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768511 - 12/17/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I get the pleasure of your company for a while longer???

That's okay, I took the day off.  We can throw slug-jargan at one another and make moosh.  :heart:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768517 - 12/17/07 08:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My part time jobs have been 7 -9 month stints, I cannot enjoy working in a place of service that long, and i get burnt out with school. School from 7am - 5pm then work @ 5:30 till ? then going home and trying to keep a decent apartment and do homework. It's rough but I get by, I switch jobs mainly to keep it interesting, and i have a fear of becoming too comfortable in a fast food job.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768520 - 12/17/07 08:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Oh do continue this is rather amusing.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Frosty_Storm]
    #7768522 - 12/17/07 08:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm definitely interested in going back to school to recieve training for a job or career that I can enjoy.

It will happen eventually, but not now.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768529 - 12/17/07 08:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What kind of jobs are you working? If you are working for big greedy companies in jobs that don't suit your intrests it seems normal to always burn out. Take a job that you like for another reason than the money.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Quarryman]
    #7768534 - 12/17/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's what I am looking for now, actually. Something to do that benefits the world.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768544 - 12/17/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not something that just benefits you I thought that was the main focus?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768561 - 12/17/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There has to be a balance. *I'm* not happy working at jobs that aren't spiritually satisfying. Something that satisfies my spirit would be a job that heals and unites the world rather then harms or divides it.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768570 - 12/17/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I just quit a job last week. I missed two days and simply didn't want to argue with the old fucker, so I just stopped going. I do this with a lot of my jobs, I used to think it was just b/c of my drug problem. But I've been pretty much sober for a while, and I did it again. I get like social anxiety when it comes to arguing with a boss or explaining why I missed work.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768602 - 12/17/07 09:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Damn rawtoxic you almost had a point before you started embarrassing yourself with name-calling.

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That's what I am looking for now, actually. Something to do that benefits the world.




You can benefit the world in just about any job. Be compassionate to every customer and co-worker. Make their days better. Provide value to them, and you'll feel good for it, as well as being compensated with money. Every day can be an opportunity to do that.

Working a job doesn't have to be 'trading your precious time away for money,' like some here have said. There is joy and pride to be found in work if you stay mindful and resist the urge to resent it. It's all about point of view. Anybody who views work as an obstacle or a sacrifice will not have a good experience.

If you don't feel like you are benefiting the world when you're at work, try bringing a different attitude to it. Go to work with the mindset of improving other people's experience, and yours will be better. It really works.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7768620 - 12/17/07 09:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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There is joy and pride to be found in work if you stay mindful and resist the urge to resent it. It's all about point of view.




That's true!


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7768628 - 12/17/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Damn rawtoxic you almost had a point before you started embarrassing yourself with name-calling.

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That's what I am looking for now, actually.  Something to do that benefits the world.




You can benefit the world in just about any job.  Be compassionate to every customer and co-worker.  Make their days better.  Provide value to them, and you'll feel good for it, as well as being compensated with money.  Every day can be an opportunity to do that.

Working a job doesn't have to be 'trading your precious time away for money,' like some here have said. There is joy and pride to be found in work if you stay mindful and resist the urge to resent it.  It's all about point of view.  Anybody who views work as an obstacle or a sacrifice will not have a good experience.

If you don't feel like you are benefiting the world when you're at work, try bringing a different attitude to it.  Go to work with the mindset of improving other people's experience, and yours will be better.  It really works.




Really, a very nice contribution to the thread. Thanks. :heart:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768631 - 12/17/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've experienced the same tendencies of laziness, but it's a yearly deal. Every winter I have to force myself through the day and sometimes it's tough. I have a great job, I love it, but it's not always the focal point m-f and I think that's a big part of the problem.

Truth be told, it's not a problem that a new or a dream job is going to fix. I know it's easy to think, "If my job was like this..., then I wouldn't have a problem." WRONG! No matter how awesome of a job a person has, there are days where it feels like work. Make yourself adapt.

Also... Work doesn't have to turn you into a self righteous prick.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768637 - 12/17/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't you join the peace corps moth? Sounds right up your alley, you will get to travel, don't really make a lot of money, but definitely help people day in day out...Or gain a good reason to hold down a job. Im a family man and have to support my family...while not having a choice to work where i do now kind of sucks, I just finished up my computer science degree with cum laude recognition (3.5-3.75 gpa) and have been offered a great job that is going to pay me wonderfully, give my family the best benefits available, and let me retire completely in about 30-40 years...just do what fits you. My situation is what I work in, and it satisfies me.

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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: supra]
    #7768640 - 12/17/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Why don't you join the peace corps moth? Sounds right up your alley, you will get to travel, don't really make a lot of money, but definitely help people day in day out...Or gain a good reason to hold down a job.




Hmmm...peace corps...never thought about it before! I guess I could look into it.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768652 - 12/17/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet my girl wouldn't give half you the time of day.




Sounds like a winner you got there :rolleyes:

I can't wait to hear from you in 10 years, after all your "successfulness", including a retardedly expensive wedding(don't for get to propose with AT THE VERY LEAST, a 10,000 dollar ring)...a bitch like that will walk away with half with a smile on her face :smirk:

...and all anyone will be hearing from you is some loud whining "it's not fair!"

People like you are the reason I've hated going to work.  Like moth said, sounds like cultural condition only to me.

I'd like you to explain, in detail, how someone NOT striving for the acceptance you so valueably hold in high regard, is a loser?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7768656 - 12/17/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Get some fucking motivation and pride in yourself... calling in 1-2 days a week your truly a pathetic slug if you do that - there is NO REASON short of major disease that I would let one of my employees miss that much work.

It's no suprise a bunch of burn outs on here. Basically all you said Ego Death is justification's for you being lazy self-centered piece of shit "do what I want, work when I want, fuck over whoever I want." Oh that's really cool attitude to have, in high school maybe. I guess you probably didn't finish that so that might be where your stuck with your job, maturity and intellectual development.

Anyways I think it's pathetic you can't keep a job because of faults of your own, poor performance, calling in 1-2 days week, or whatever you people do to get fired for.

Ego Death - The bitter old people who spent there who life working for the man, are you suggesting they would not be bitter if they were Homeless, poor and broke instead because that's the alternative. And if you don't like working for the man, why not make YOU THE MAN if your so smart open your own business?




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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: ivi]
    #7768664 - 12/17/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No Michelle here.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: ivi]
    #7768668 - 12/17/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can hold a job for a looooooong time. always have and always will.. I love having the stability.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7768670 - 12/17/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe that's what I don't like about the same routine day in and day out...too much stability.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768689 - 12/17/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's not necessarily about societal standards off "success", it's about doing SOMETHING with your life. How can you guys go through life doing absolutely nothing and resorting to the "your just culturally conditioned" plea.

Living in your mom's basement, or pumping gas the the 7-eleven your entire life is no more "meaningful", or "fulfilling" as the guy who chases societal standards of "success". With that being said, I prefer the latter.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: badchad]
    #7768701 - 12/17/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

All this talk about success... :nonono:

Success is reaching your goals.    If you don't reach your goals, you feel like shit and start redefining success.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: badchad]
    #7768725 - 12/17/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It's not necessarily about societal standards off "success", it's about doing SOMETHING with your life. How can you guys go through life doing absolutely nothing and resorting to the "your just culturally conditioned" plea.

Living in your mom's basement, or pumping gas the the 7-eleven your entire life is no more "meaningful", or "fulfilling" as the guy who chases societal standards of "success". With that being said, I prefer the latter.




I Agree, Aslong as you can get out and just apply yourself a little bit.. You really can get what you want. Moved out when i was 15, havnt been back to the rents since. Im 21 now and slowly on my way to the top if i keep it up. Well to the top of whay i want that is. A nice home, An awesome dog, and a Fucking awesome job!


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7768739 - 12/17/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Stop ego-tripping and get a fucking clue. Have a kid maybe. Could change a whole lot in your life. You're not going to school anyway, and, apparently, are unable to keep a job.

Or write a book already. Could change a lot in your life too, and maybe mine and many other people's as well.

If you can't work for the man, start your own thing. Just do fucking something!

I'm sorry if I sound harsh. I don't know you personally, but I've been reading your posts since you registered.

I believe I know how you feel. And don't ask me for pictures of my wrists.

Hell, pick up the Bible and read the fucking John 5:8.

You Texans...

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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Cowgold]
    #7768747 - 12/17/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If only Karl Marx could read this thread. Myself, I hate part time jobs and the like. I can enjoy them for a while, but I always get sick of them quick. I'm pretty good at school, so I'm hoping that I can survive off of all the stupid credentials that I'm going to get. Anyway rawtoxic sounds like he needs to brush up on Marx's theory of alienation. Not contributing to the hegemonic capitalist system doesn't make a person a slug or devalue them as a person.

Did you know that indigenous tribes have a work week of about 5-10 hours AND they don't have the dehumanizing inequality that our "successful" system can boast.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7768774 - 12/17/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I just called out 3 days in a row. I know they're probably pissed but I feel the same way you do about work. I work at Geek Squad. I enjoy computer repair but now it's just turning into the same old bullshit day in and day out. I have off tomorrow, I might call in and see if they want help so they don't hate me.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7769035 - 12/17/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm with ya...seeing ppl who've been at the same job for years and moved nowhere and are completely miserable yet too scared and or stuck in the habbit of working there that they don't even try to break free and find something better is so depressing

what I find to be the most frustrating is when I'm doing a good job and enthuastic about it...learning quick and contributing a lot to the company and then theres that supervisor whos bitter and can't stand to see someone happy and taking pride in their work so they make it their goal to demoralize you, put you down at any chance they get and find fault in your work even if it means wasting their time and eventually refusing to accept that there was nothing wrong to begin with

I'm the type of person who needs to feel appreciated and that coupled with the fact that they blared love music all fuckin day long(one of those wonderful work stations) and after breaking up with the girl who I will most likely never stop loving with all my heart I felt like I could not deal with it anymore

I got off the bus after work one day and someone offered me valiums cheap(wanted money for crack) so I grabbed them and started using them at home and work(and even shared them with a coworker) when they ran out I tried to find more and when I couldn't find them I bought coke instead...and after being up for 2 nights and not going to work and not calling in(I don't have a phone right now) I was fired when I did eventually call in

I haven't work yet again but I will soon...I know this is anxiety and I have a skewed perception of what future jobs will be like but I Just can't get myself to even look for a job yet

I need to stay clean first...I've made the decision to quit everything...and its not cause I don't believe in lsd and other positive psychedelic drugs anymore...the problem is I'm an addict and use of any drugs keeps me around ppl who encourage drug use, have a negative perspective on life in general and also gets me back into that cycle of drug use regardless of what it is

so my goal right now is to stay completely clean...then I will work again

anyways I kinda went off topic there sorry bout that :P


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rexmundi]
    #7769078 - 12/17/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Did you know that indigenous tribes have a work week of about 5-10 hours AND they don't have the dehumanizing inequality that our "successful" system can boast.




They also have a much lower standard of living. I'll keep my TV and computer, thank you.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #7769193 - 12/17/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

you don't think you could get a job at Mcdonalds for like a week or two to pay back the money you'v owed for over a year?

Naw, nevermind. Go get clean first brah. Much love. You take just as long as you want. No big hurry or anything. Its not like your ever going to pay it back anyways.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7769729 - 12/17/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You're not the only one that can't hold down a job. There's always growing pot.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7769750 - 12/17/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I have had many more attractive women drawn to me as a successful man than some jobless lowlife sellin 50 bags. I'd like to hear some of you argue otherwise. I bet my girl wouldn't give half you the time of day. Sure I might be able to con them into the sack once usually charisma or whatever but keeping them around is another story.
My girl works just as hard as me with the business and coming up with new ideas and such so she's not just along for the 'carrots'.




I'm jobless and have sorry work ethic, yet i'm a full time college student. Does that make me a loser?

You seem to be very entitled to your own opinions. I'm quite like this guy, I will not, if it is merely possible, work 40 hours a week doing the regular bullshit. I'm not a robot and don't wish to be one. If it makes you happy that you wake up, go to work, buy food, go to sleep, wake up, go to work, buy food, go to sleep.. then by all means i'd say you would find a grass blade amusing.

Some people don't show the same pessimistic views as you do.. and i'm probably going to be a psychologist before it's all said and done.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: future]
    #7769785 - 12/17/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What? :what:


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Cowgold]
    #7769849 - 12/17/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

blah, i kind of went on a rant there. Let me get clear here.

First, some people were brought up without the work ethics that some people were. Some people had strong fathers teaching their sons day in and day out how to work and be a strong person. Well, i'm one of those people that didn't. All though my father was in the Air Force and is a loving father by all means, that doesn't mean he knew how to raise a son properly. Me being an only child made it even harder.

I've worked at UPS, as an electrician apprentice, in AC/heat.. all kinds of labor work to go along with mcdonalds and burger king. It's just not my thing and not something that I will be happy doing the rest of my life. I couldn't stand doing the same schedule for 25 years untill i retire. That's just not in me, i'm sorry.

So, I decided after, I just wouldn't be happy in the labor department and that I needed to do something and that me being only twenty years old, college was perfect. I've completed two semesters and have learned valuable lessons on each of the semesters.

All though the classes I've had to take hardly required any kind of "work", it's going to get harder. Given how smart I am, school doesn't really require the work ethic that holding down a job such as being an electrician would.

Hell, try being under a house for eight hours a day working as an air condition repair man. Sure, moneys great, happiness sure isn't though. Especially when the next day i'm in a 140 degree attic.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7770383 - 12/17/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Get some fucking motivation and pride in yourself... calling in 1-2 days a week your truly a pathetic slug if you do that - there is NO REASON short of major disease that I would let one of my employees miss that much work.

It's no suprise a bunch of burn outs on here. Basically all you said Ego Death is justification's for you being lazy self-centered piece of shit "do what I want, work when I want, fuck over whoever I want." Oh that's really cool attitude to have, in high school maybe. I guess you probably didn't finish that so that might be where your stuck with your job, maturity and intellectual development.

Anyways I think it's pathetic you can't keep a job because of faults of your own, poor performance, calling in 1-2 days week, or whatever you people do to get fired for.

Ego Death - The bitter old people who spent there who life working for the man, are you suggesting they would not be bitter if they were Homeless, poor and broke instead because that's the alternative. And if you don't like working for the man, why not make YOU THE MAN if your so smart open your own business?




oh I'm sorry... I almost took like seriously there for a minute. Bwahahaha

No offense, but people like you make going to work a very dreadful process. I'm not sure where or when in American values it became the standard to be expected to work 90 hours a week at a job you hate and be constanly ridiculed and slandered by your so-called employer, but I have more respect for myself than that.

Certainly people should work to provide for the basic needs for themselves and their loved one. But when you start calling people slugs for saying they are unmotivated to work their life away that has absolutely zero impact on your personal life, I have to question your intentions.

I myself work a job I do not like at all but I do it to survive. I've though about starting my own business many times but lack the resources to do such. Tell me Mr. Better Than Everyone else because you work a lot and have your own business, what are your secrets? I don't think it's very fair if you are calling people names if you won't share them. Where did you get the capitol to open your own business? Did you have to take one for the man or did your parents give it to you>?


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7770457 - 12/17/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Shroomism is totally right,People like Raw do make the work environment a fucking dreadful place.

The last job I had was around 6 weeks ago and I was fired because I wasn't enthusiastic enough.I was doing the work just fine,mind you.It was pretty amusing coming in to work and the boss stopping me from punching in and telling me all that :lol: Seriously,I'm just not a enthusiastic person to begin with.

Just look at these zombie eyes!


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #7771008 - 12/17/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"Shroomism is totally right,People like Raw do make the work environment a fucking dreadful place."

I was way ahead of both of you on that :tongue:  So very true though.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7771039 - 12/17/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

not me. but i ALWAYS cause dramatic problems at work, lol.

im the guy that'll never miss a day of work and be the hardest and kindest worker and then ill start talking about how i want another job just so that everyone is like "oh no, your such a good worker, you cant leave". i've done this at every job.

but i have noticed that i keep on getting better and better jobs which leaves me at the conclusion that even though at the time im just saying that im going to leave for attention, it is in fact the best thing to do.

dont let work bother you though, make it your playground if you have to.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7771073 - 12/17/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Get some fucking motivation and pride in yourself... calling in 1-2 days a week your  truly a pathetic slug if you do that - there is NO REASON short of major disease that I would let one of my employees miss that much work. 



So dude...how do you care, man?  You seem culturally conditioned from my point of view.  Is that what it is?  Or is there some secret to being satisfied with the standard 40 hr workweek? 

LET ME KNOW MAN.  I'm desperate to give over my life's time for a few dollars and the feeling that I accomplished something. 

Uh...glad it gives you jollies to work and make money.... :shrug:  :tongue2:




the way i see it is, if you at least pretend to care and at least act like your doing a good job, you wont have to worry about losing your job and finding a new one.  it's nice to be able to go in, do it, go home, and not have to complain about it.

it sounds like you just haven't found the right kind of work.  what do you do?  what have you done?  what kinds of things do you think you might like?

there's no point in getting the same kind of jobs if you dont like them.  step out on a limb and try something new, give it some time, and see where it goes.


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Re: Who else has a hard time holding down a job? [Re: MOTH]
    #7771082 - 12/17/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

there's nothing wrong with switching jobs frequently.  As long as you are able to support yourself and your needs, that should be more than sufficient :smile:

I am the same way and feel no guilt whatsoever about it. 

I remember when you initially got that job at the pet store...you were just loving it. 

You'll find something you enjoy again, for a little while, which is all that really matters.  And eventually, after enough searching, you could find a job that you will enjoy for a more permanent amount of time :thumbup:


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