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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: cactu]
#7776509 - 12/19/07 05:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: undergrounder]
#7776975 - 12/19/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> men i can´t go to sleep because i´m not sleppy and i´m living in a island with a guy that really do snork in the land. > whoa, landsnorkel go to those mountains where the cloud are there is the place i was toking about if you can mix it with the waterfall that is , is the solution , the last piece of the puzzle,.
Haha, your english is better than you let on.
> i'm not sure that's a galerina.
It looks like Galerina to me. I am not sure where the dividing line between Galerina and Gymnopilus is, maybe it has something to do with the pileus cuticle.
Why has no one invented a portable microscope? Its not like the lenses needed are that massive or heavy. I envision a little thing that can do 200, 400, or 1600x, and can use sunlight or LED's to light the stage.
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Yo!!! Surnrise, sunrise. Pouring out again. Probably rained over an inch last night. And now again. Cactu, I envision there being some amazing things up within that mist also. The only problem is getting up there. Apparently the only way is by helicopter. I was thinking about looking in zapotecorumish habitats for unknown psilocybes...It's near impossible to penetrate into any of the ravines though due to extreme vegetation. Today I think we are gonna check out this canyon, can't remember what it's called. However, soon we will be going to waterfall land!!! The Na Pali coast. Haha. Just heard an older lady asking two of the Hawaiians working here, when the nice time to be here is. Hahahaha. She then proceeded to say, "I bet it's nicer in Palm Springs." After she walked off, the two Hawaiians started talking in native tongue and cracking up big time.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7778305 - 12/19/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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buenos dias . will make a correct id of your finds , some seem how overwell by the tropical enviroment.. i have been looking at this pictures and those green friend are definatly mushrooms i see gill there in one specimen i can´t put the big pictures my left botton of mouse don´t seem to work .any how
  i guess it relate to this Melanoleuca yucatensis
 this is for sure an amanita of the tropics , that i recall volvariella don´t have a ring .
 this are collybya sp .
 this could be a gymnopilus , not real sure.
 now this copes are the tigritos i hope you are saving spore but not in tisuee paper, in plain paper better,
 this specie is a poliporacius call Coltricia perennis, you can see the zonate band with velvet hairs, grow from buried wood.
 a picture for reference

now this Aseroe rubra is something else , real nice find, did you smell it , hope so you can even taste the black chocolate there . real yummy .
 another picture for reference.

the nex specimen is posible a pycnoporus or Rigidosporus sp. some picture of pycnoporus to compare
 now one of rigidoporus
 that´s what my books said
 this is a most book for tropical id very good pictures
 this others too but for many other pourposes.




 all my best .
then that you say galerina i guees is a gymnolipus maybe close to this one.

 this one is a gymnopilus that grow in mexico very close to gymnopilus lepidotus this one is still not identificate.i guees we can rule out galerina because no galerina grow in tropical enviroment, and also because more feutures like cap , spores etc.
some paneolus antillarum for reference at leat that what my book said.

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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7778576 - 12/19/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah..... fuckin heavy
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7780246 - 12/20/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I figured out the gymnopilus as gymnopilus subtropica, or something like that. Can't remember the exact name. Saw lots more of the stinkhorns on today's hike. They are actually quite common round here. Today's treck was fucking intense!!! I guess there were hurricane force winds a couple weeks ago along with very heavy rains and thunderstorms (rare around here). So, many trees were downed on the trail. But there was an abundance of funguys. First stop was Waimea canyon, for some dope views. Then we cruised up to near the top of the island for a hike. A very different environment from the last few days, so some new shrooms. This trail was more overgrown, and wound through many different ecosystems. We drove through what looked like a somewhat arid area on our way up, and then ended up back in supa dense jungal for the hike. There were some conifers too, which I hadn't seen yet. Redwoods, cedar, cook island pine, and others. This place is so fuckin sick. Well, here's the goods:
Waimea Canyon:
 We ended up hiking over the top of this falls:
 Rain in the distance:
 First shrooms of the day:
 At trailhead: Laetiporous sulphereus? That would be awesome. I've never seen or eaten them.


 others from th.
 On to the hike: Lepiota?

 These guys were everywhere:

 The trail near beginning:
 These flowers were sick. Looks like they were made for a long bird beak to suck out nectar:
 Brugmansia sp.:
 ?:

 ?, gonna be alot of ?marks:
 Dope flower:
 Possibly unopened lepiota:
 lepiota:
 Bad photo, but this thing was tight. Similar to conocybe filaris:
 shit loads of these:
 Cornucopia of oddities:
 lepiota:
 no gills:
 These look like gaaalllerrriiinnnaaas:
 more damn lepiotas:
 Perfect artist's conk (this thing was huge):
 fungal paradise:
 Intermission: Sit back, have some fried chicken and cheap beer. This fucker looks alot like me:
 Mossy:

 And we're back, I love these things:
 Amanita muscaria var. formosa (apparently quite rare here):

 Lycoperdon:
 Above that waterfall:
 Where's Landsnorkler:
 Pretty polypores:
 whheeewwwy!!!!
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7780261 - 12/20/07 01:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yo cactu, as in copelandia tigritos? I do have a print. Tomorrow is cope ingestion day, Yay. Things should get a little strange here in Kauai tomorrow!!!! Are you sure galerinas don't grow in tropical environs. I think I remember reading about a hawaiian galerina. Thanks for all the help so far man, and alan, and gg, and everyone else. I really appreciate it. Love yall. Oh yeah, the waterfalls are sick.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7780281 - 12/20/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amazing photos Landsnorkler! i love the tropical species pics.
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WOW stunning photos... brilliant.
The first yellow one of today's exercise looks like my Cyptotrama asprata, but the stem colour is different.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: undergrounder]
#7780940 - 12/20/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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galerina are not commond in tropical enviroment , but i´m not totally sure if some exist may be especially in higher altitude as for example here are galerina but mostly in temperate enviroment, , as you know since you beging rising in altitude the temperature drops few degrade and mountains act as a condences and atract all humidity and dropp more water so places in altitude more that 1400 meter are not tropical anymore but subtropical , so species of nordic eviroment can grow here and since also the same species they use , example you are in a tropical enviroment but since all those cedar have been introduce to the island, and as you said many other coniferus, well many specie that really are introduce can exist specially at highet elevation and with introduce flora,that why you can find amanita muscaria and it a rarity because the temperatures are in the border of no good parameter because is more coomon in more hing island and with real pine ,did you look real pines there or onle cedar,and red woods, you know all those species of tree where planted that is a ecological damage to all the other native species, of tree and mushrooms and plant, but enoufh biology , good pictures my man , that guy really look like you but without the visor, i was going to say with out the snorker but sound weird i guess. i will id some of your find if i can latter im going to go out in a while i guees , since i love to do that because i learn a lot in the process, now that was a great hikke, good , the waterfall look amazing , but you know what was missing for the psilocybe a big canopy of trees , and for more mushrooms also , but you will find it , i can bet than in lower altitude galerina don´t exist but in more higher elevations, have a good day
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: undergrounder]
#7781126 - 12/20/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> The first yellow one of today's exercise looks like my Cyptotrama asprata, but the stem colour is different.
Looks like a good match to me.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: cactu]
#7781127 - 12/20/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Undergrounder, yeah that sounds right. Thanks!!! Cactu, that makes perfect sense. I actually got cold up there yesterday. The hike we're going on today will have quite the canopy I believe, so should be nice. Yeah, there are some introduced conifers. However most of the time hunting was spent in native forrest. I guess the altitude explains the amanita, and galerinas, and gymnopilus subtropica, not gymnopilus tropica. Wish me luck on my "trip." Peace!!!
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7781220 - 12/20/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, subbedhunter, I think you could survive here. There are subbs.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7783458 - 12/20/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude WTF? I was in Kauai last May and I saw NO MUSHROOMS. I was even asking around. Nobody had seen any mushrooms. I heard lots of people say "Higher in the mountains." Went up there and still found nothing.
Kauai is a freaking great place. Have fun. Also, you absolutely MUST visit the taro chip factory in Hanapepe. Have you ever driven 50 miles for a bag of chips? I have. It was to that place. We were staying on the opposite side of the island.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: vdlsar]
#7783946 - 12/20/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey, I went snorkling today Sea turtles, morey eel, many fish I cant name.. lots of whales spouting also.
No mushrooms yet, but to be honest I havent really had a chance to look.. it's a boozefest over here haha. Hana tomorrow, the wet side of the island, and some great pictures. Have to wait till I get home to upload them, forgot the USB cable lol.
happy shroom huntin
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7784096 - 12/21/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good show.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7784113 - 12/21/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hello my friend , is good to see you are having a good time. since you are now more use to hunt in the jungle , you have notice the jungle is diferent. the mayority of the mushrooms grow from wood almost the 80%, why is that . well because many factors, in this places the rains are more than 1400 mm all years and even more than 2000 mm in some places,and this plus the high heat , help to degradate all organic matter that why you dont find many leaves or compost leaves, in this forest there is a thing space of humus in the ground, that why mushrooms have trouble to leave in this tipe of medium since it dissappear before they can complete their cicle , well this is not the case for mold, and other tipe of mushrooms as marasmius very coomon in leaves litter. all the mushrooms grow mayority on wood, in live wood or trees some parasit other as first decomposer of wood, other as second decomposer etc, most lepiotas are lighicolas here , is very well notice the abbsence of micorrisic fungus simple beacuse of the lack of the tree host, and climate , and the competence in the jungle is crucial , you can notice all trees are some how diferent more that the comooond temperate forest where all tyhe mass of tree tend to be for 3 or 4 species in acres of forest, well in the jungle competition is the rule of the day, is interest to notice certaing mushrooms can be use as target indicator or some how or degradation or conservance of the forest , for example pycnoporus indicate open area ,sunny and with some disturbance, pristinejungle have species of amanita,phillipsia , cookeria, coenogium, ramaria, marasmius,etc. ok let´s get to the id contest:
-First shrooms of the day: have a caracteristic space gill , tha leave it from lepiota,maybe is marasmiellus sp. those have spaced gills. -At trailhead: Laetiporous sulphereus? That would be awesome. I've never seen or eaten them. yes those are the chicken , real nice one , they still see eatable. -others from th. maybe marasmius are very commond many species in the tropic. -On to the hike: Lepiota? that a lepiota , i see that is growing in the area of the cedar and red woods or cupresus sp. , i wonder from where does it come from may be introduce. -These guys were everywhere: now that a perfect example of marasmius sp, maybe the tropical version of oreades, is importand to notice smell in this species, -The trail near beginning: this look like mexico a mix of tropical and neotropical species, those cedar are big real old now. -These flowers were sick. Looks like they were made for a long bird beak to suck out nectar: sure it does, those are probably like that for the prosbocide of zone hummind birds or nocturnal butterfly´s. -Brugmansia sp.: that floripondio is big and look diferent than us ,nice i love this plant for the flowers i have many in my house , or used to have. -? that is posible a Trametes sp. very commond in tropical enviroment i will have to look the underside to be sure and the structures of the pores but all match , posible too trichaptum,hexagonia,daedalea, but my money is in trametes. -?, gonna be alot of ?marks: this mushrooms recive many names for micotaxonoimist but is recognice for the teeh like pores in the underside,flavodum sp. -Dope flower: for sure. -Possibly unopened lepiota:
 -lepiota look like the same as above but more mature maybe lepiota are very coomond growing in log . -Bad photo, but this thing was tight. Similar to conocybe filaris: if that is not conocybe what is?? filaris brother. -shit loads of these: those look like perfect exazmple of collybya sp. some collybya are edible , indias in amazon eat then. -Cornucopia of oddities: as long as you keep finding asaroe, coprinus,and posible lycogalopsis solmsii the white ball thing. -lepiota:
 -no gills: haha , you are not familiar with auricularias, this one seem to be auricularia fuscosuccinea , since is common in tropical enviroment and don´t seem to have venacion as other auricularias, this mushrooms are edible and medicinal , at leat for asian people. -These look like gaaalllerrriiinnnaaas: sure also as more conocybe. -more damn lepiotas: told you lepiota are very commnond along with marasmius and the massive fruit bodys of the poliporaceus are the most coomond find in jungle, -Perfect artist's conk (this thing was huge): that can easy be ganoderma australe, very common in the tropics -fungal paradise: maybe favolus brasilensis, or dyctiopanus, corius versicolor. -Intermission: Sit back, have some fried chicken and cheap beer. This fucker looks alot like me: i can´t id with out a spore print, did it bruise, don´t rub to much. -Mossy: beautifull. -And we're back, I love these things: so soon . love those thing too. -Amanita muscaria var. formosa (apparently quite rare here): that is a great find . beutifull specimens -Lycoperdon:
 -Above that waterfall: you guys walk a lot. thanks . -Where's Landsnorkler: you are not there because you are taking the picture. -Pretty polypores: i guees you are right , and the name can vary on upon taxonomist. all my best, to you.
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: cactu]
#7784298 - 12/21/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweet. Thanks for all the help cactu. You are the shit. I know what you mean by things decomposing very fast in the jungle. In dense jungle all the shrooms were growing from wood, which made spotting them easy for me. That is great those are chicks, I'm gonna eat em tomorrow. How are things goin in Mexico?
Alright. Today turned out to be a chill day. We were tired, so we decided to snorkel, and beach bum today. Saw many cool fish, and some sea turtles. Tons of humuhumunukunukuapua'a. A few mushrooms though, some oyster mushrooms, which will go well with the chickies. Speaking of chickies, hot damn, when at the beach I have to lay on my stomach. Tomorrow we'll be getting into a long hike up the na pali coast!!! Stoked about it. On to today's pics.
First snorkel spot, fucking tight.
 These were growing under ironwood: some agaricus:
 more agaricus?:
 marasmius?:
 another agaricus?
 beat up earthstars:
 oysters!!!(much flimsier than I'm used too):
 more marasmius?:
 don't know:
 that's a huge snail:
 Bananas anyone?:
 I was looking around at a polo field for copes or subbs, didn't find any, but found these:

 Then, not finding any copes, I started to get crabby:
 2nd snorkeling spot. This place was amazing:
 coral:
 sea urchin:
 sea urchins:
 tide pool window:
 North shore:
 Who said rainbows are gay. Straighten the Rainbow!!!!!!!
 Peace!!!
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Re: Landsnorkeling Kauai day 1: subbs [Re: landsnorkler]
#7784378 - 12/21/07 02:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome thread. Congrats on the great finds! 
I have yet to vist Kauai but some of my best memories are from Oahu, Maui and the Big Island. I went hunting in beautiful Hana, Maui without success but it didn't matter; just being there is magical enough.
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buenos dias , every day i woke up to see your píctures, are amazing, really intructive and productive . once you undesrtnd trees you will understand more mushrooms, they are so related, i wonder what is the tree you call iron woods somet is tipe of coniferus?.when i see the litter of leaves i see leaves of casuarina sp, araucaria,cedars or cupresus sp, all not from the island , . look like you will not needing to much help this time in id, good. -some agaricus i wonder why type of mushrooms people eat in those island , they must not be very fungofilian , but may now introduce many species to the diet, how those agaricus smell . some of the best agaricus can smell real good. -marasmius? for sure . -beat up earthstars: all geastrum or other earthstars are micorrisic , those are the one helping the trees there to survive,the spores can be use if you have a cut , and are bleddding you put the dust of spores and help stop the bleeding. -oysters!!!(much flimsier than I'm used too): nice , they look real diferent color of what i´m use to hunt here all are white or pink, or in betwen . -more marasmius?: yes , there are very common in the litter of leaves this is not a tropical friend do , may be introduce with those casuarina trees , those cone i can 100% asure are casuarina sp, this trees come from some island close to australia,in mexico is call fake mexican pine for fun, the sound of the air is real good when it pass trought the leaves make a strange sound, -don't know: this may be a clitocybe, a somehow dry lactarius and in a lesser degre a russula. -that's a huge snail: you realized those snail are very good indicator , they feed on active species , most of the time on inocybe .

 i put some very importand dates so you don´t forget of us, 22 of december is solticius of winter, the longest night of the year. i will be conected to the magic world if you like to pm in this dates, my password is ¨the most highya¨.
 -I was looking around at a polo field for copes or subbs, didn't find any, but found these: be carefull some pluteus may be active. -Then, not finding any copes, I started to get crabby: nice crab .you have to conect to find more. beautifull escenery did you took pictures underwater , look pretty nice are those erizos de mar, beutiful, -Who said rainbows are gay. Straighten the Rainbow!!!!!!! i guees is gay not to picture those , you aks about mexico wel this was a month ago
 this is from yeasterday.

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