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dd22
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Newbie needs help!
#7767791 - 12/16/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi everyone:
I am new here so first off hello there I have been reading and learning a lot from this website and this is my first grow.
I was wondering if someone could help me with these 2 q's please. I birthed my cakes directly on to the wet perlite, are there any disadvantages to this and my second question might seem a bit odd but I was also wondering if for casing I can use my dog's poo or human waste instead of H poo. It's been snowing constantly, approx 30 Cm's outside and my second batch of cakes are stuck in the damn jar I can't get to the local nursery so that's why there is this dilemma. I need to case them today and don't have food for them.
Any suggestions are much appreciated you guys!! Thanks a lot
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oysterguy63
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Re: Newbie needs help! [Re: dd22]
#7767838 - 12/16/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Horse poo should not be subbed with human poo or dog poo. Horse manure has a unique combination of nutrients that are conducive to not only mushrooms, but other organic grows as well. Neither Human feces or dog feces have that...
As far as the first questions......if the cakes are fully colonized with mycellium prior to their contact with the perlite you should be good. Read your guides about perlite on the Shroomery and you should be okay...some choose to have barrier of sorts from the perlite...others set the cakes directly on the perlite. My experience with cakes (I case everything now...no more cakes) is that I have had luck in both arena's....both with and without barriers from the perlite...and have had contams with both. If you really want honesty..go for it the way it is for now..then next time...read about casing and case...you won't be sorry.
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Fahkface
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I was also wondering if for casing I can use my dog's poo or human waste instead of H poo
Dude, are you serious??? Would you really have worked with human- or dog shit to grow mushrooms??? That would have been kind of... let me look for the word.. ahm DISGUSTING!
Haha, peal, don't take this as an offense but I doubt anyone would come close to your home anymore, if you'd use dog shit to case your cakes. Just imagine the stench of worm and wet shit, floating through your apartment. Delicious!
Additionally I also doubt any of your friends or trip-mates would like to eat mushrooms, that were grown from human or dog shit...
Just go to a garden store /center and buy some pasteurized cow dung and stick to it 
Good luck!
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Glacier Creek
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Re: Newbie needs help! [Re: Fahkface]
#7768079 - 12/17/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but you have a LOT more reading to do before you try bulk.
Take your time.
If you haven't read enough about mushrooms in general to understand why human shit doesn't work as a substrate for cubes, then you are going to have a very hard time understanding why things aren't working with your grows.
And when you follow a tek, follow it to the letter a few times, before you get any bright ideas of your own.
Put your cakes on the jar lid, NOT directly onto the perlite or you are going to see a lot of wasted energy on pins that never mature because your cake is sitting on top of them.
I won't even repond to the dog shit/ human shit question. I am sure there will be enough of that before this post dies a peaceful death.
Let me save you the trouble of spreading ecoli virus all around your house, and probably killing all of your friends.
Go up to that little search posts button above this page, and type in the words:Coir, Coffee
I think you will find it much nicer to work with than your own feces.
  
Works for me!
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veda_sticks
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Sitting the cakes on the perlite runs the risk of waterloging it.
Mushrooms can grow under quite a bit of weight and even move objects.
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Edited by veda_sticks (12/17/07 05:56 AM)
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flavoraid
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I wish someone told you to use human poo...
fuck thats gross
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verminute
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Re: Newbie needs help! [Re: flavoraid]
#7768500 - 12/17/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Actually human poop is a great face wash substitute.
Works for me and I get all the ladies! ha ha
Curious, why didn't you just put tin foil between the cake and peralite? Just a mistake, or trying something different?
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