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Offlineshroomials
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Aborts or somthing else.
    #7767534 - 12/16/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ok here are these 2 pictures of these mushrooms growing out of my cakes i do not know if they are aborts or they are like this due to humidity but if you do no could you tell me there real tiny an the caps are super small an stop growing and somtimes are fat at botom then get super small towards top. but you take a look.



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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7767551 - 12/16/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Can't tell, buddy. I can see the DVD case in the background, and not the cake. The thing that usually tips you off to they're being aborts, is black caps though. Put up some better pics and we'll be better able to tell you.


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7767562 - 12/16/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

bad pics man. the top picture looks like a blowfish


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Offlineshroomials
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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: thedefone]
    #7767576 - 12/16/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dang well i tried to explain them as good as i can there small an like just small caps an big bodys. but there just real small real small as u can c onthe cake. an they dont get bigger an then they have big bodys an small caps some time


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7767584 - 12/16/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok do you c that little fatty at the bottom right hand corner there like that but small big but small caps an are like nasty looking an there every were an real skinny.


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7767622 - 12/16/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe genetics? Is this your first project to turn out like that?


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: TripleTree3]
    #7767635 - 12/16/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes do you think it could be that i used bleached white flour instead of brf but then again 1 sec i used brf on a nother cake an it has them but i didnt dunk any of my cakes.


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Re: Aborts or something else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7767672 - 12/16/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, I saw the last pic posted in another thread. You did say you used white flour, try dark colored flour or the recommended Brown Rice Flour (BRF). I just assume that anything with a darkish tone would suffice. On the bright side, you did discover something here... just not exactly too sure what. A feasible and appropriate experiment you could employ here would be to take tissue from one of those and inoculate some other type of substrate and see how potent the mushrooms are then. If there is no change (assuming all of your other parameter's are met) then you could say that the genetics were shit. I've read in the advanced forums that changing a select genetic specimens diet every so often supercharges the myceliums vigor and health. Move to Brown Rice Flour via a coffee grinder or blender. They say this is the best when using the rice.


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Re: Aborts or something else. [Re: Crake]
    #7767686 - 12/16/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

oh, yeah... you'd at least have had bigger mushrooms if you had given them more moisture. Now that you mention it, the cakes are deformed. This is a sign of dehydration. Maybe it's a combo of dehydration and un-preferable substrate.


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Re: Aborts or something else. [Re: Crake]
    #7767705 - 12/16/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hmm wow that seems like that would be right ty for the info


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7768359 - 12/17/07 06:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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shroomials said:
yes do you think it could be that i used bleached white flour instead of brf but then again 1 sec i used brf on a nother cake an it has them but i didnt dunk any of my cakes.




I dont think its the flour, but i hate to tell you. Those mushrooms wont be very potent. White grows mushrooms, but lacks the nuitrients to make them potent.

Skinny mushrooms are usually result of build up of co2, are they getting enough FAE


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7769463 - 12/17/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they wernt potent at all they sucked ass big time but whats FAE im quessing it has to do with humidity maybe. well yea they wernt good tho no potency at all but i still not pretty sure why i have those scrony mushrooms that are small as kinny an dont grow i have tons of them.


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7769694 - 12/17/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbdown: :rolleyes: :eek: :confused: :mad:


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: shroomials]
    #7769696 - 12/17/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was thinking that your cake was probably just drying out and so the shrooms came out skinny. Then you mentioned that you didn't dunk.

I think it's a combo of what Veda said, excess CO2 and using white flour, and also not being hydrated enough. Sufficient FAE and hydration will lead to bigger mushrooms.


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: drwatson]
    #7769747 - 12/17/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Theres no nutrition in WHITE rice, idealy you should have at least 3 FAE's per hour...hydration is big key...what were your temps do you suppose....i'd save those spore prints and follow the pf tek in youtube..just type in "Let's Grow Mushrooms"


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Re: Aborts or somthing else. [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7770151 - 12/17/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lol yea ino that how i learned pf tek from mushroom rr but i didnt really listen top the part were it says brf so i just tried my best


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