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dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm
    #7767352 - 12/16/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

can you roll in perlite if you out of verm, do you have to bake the perlite first?


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: dave72]
    #7767394 - 12/16/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No dont roll in perlite.

Perlite is for humidification, it provides a large surface area for water to evaporite providing good humidity.

Vermiculite holds water like a sponge providing a reservour like thing for moisture (which is ideal conditions for pinnin)

Both are non nuitricious so should not be a vector for contamination, but verm is better for casing and perlite for humidifications.

they should not be substituted.


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7767402 - 12/16/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

alright ill just let it go and roll in verm for 2nd flush


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: dave72]
    #7767422 - 12/16/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thbats perfectly fine, i have done this on a few cakes. Be sure to keep the humidity as high as you can as its important to have high humidity at the surface of the mycelium (which is why we roll in verm and keep it moist)

You might find that it pins from the bottom, i have had decent flushes from a non rolled cake. dunk and roll for the 2nd flush. You may see better pinning (i did last grow)

Either way, given that you are giving plenty of FAE good humidity and light, they will pin.


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7767559 - 12/16/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dave,
Why dont you just dunk and roll one in perlite just to see??? Maybe you are onto something and maybe people who say no are ust repeating something that they do not know if it is true or not.
I say do one. BTW, perlite is like sand once in your mouth. So you will want to pick it all off of the stems


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: tahoe]
    #7767707 - 12/16/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

aight ill give it a shot, maybe the extra surface area will create more surface area for humidity to collect and feed the myc? who knows


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: dave72]
    #7767723 - 12/16/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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can you roll in perlite if you out of verm, do you have to bake the perlite first?




No. Do not do this. My .02


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: LateForTheFuture]
    #7768753 - 12/17/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dave72 said:
can you roll in perlite if you out of verm, do you have to bake the perlite first?




No. Do not do this. My .02



please explain. Whaqt are your credenials


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: tahoe]
    #7768775 - 12/17/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well I'm not entirely sure that this is the reason. . .

But. . .

I have a couple cakes fruiting and they weren't getting any pins for over a week and a half. Well I don't know if it was a coincidence or not but one day my fc was pushed a little too hard and a bit of perlite was brushed against the bottom of my cakes and stuck. The cakes pinned the same day.

Could have been due to the increase in humidity at the base?


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: drwatson]
    #7768911 - 12/17/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LOL Id like to know how Tahoe knows what Perlite taste like :smile:


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: DontPlay]
    #7768963 - 12/17/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The purpose of the 'roll' in dunk and roll is so that vermiculite will stick to the wet cake. Vermiculite absorbs water and therefore acts as a moisture reservoir. You can mist the verm on the cake and it will slowly release that absorbed water to the mycelium.

Perlite does not absorb water. Perlite is crystalline and is about as absorbant as window glass. Putting perlite on your cakes will not serve as a moisture reservoir or anything else.

Read here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6610766#Post6610766
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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: DontPlay]
    #7769304 - 12/17/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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LOL Id like to know how Tahoe knows what Perlite taste like :smile:



I assume it doesnt really have a taste but i could imagine what the texture would be like.

No i have never eaten perlite


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Re: dunk and roll, can you roll in perlite if you out of verm [Re: tahoe]
    #7774029 - 12/18/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Or you can read this
http://www.shroomery.org/9734/Can-I-substitute-Vermiculite-with-Perlite-in-my-cake

made out of the above post by RR and another couple of posts.


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