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SuperPuma
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Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins.
#7765705 - 12/16/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crazy aerial rhizos, right through and above my casing layer, around 10 days already, but no pins.
I'm trying to fruit tubs of straight rye in a martha with an agar-style carboy humidifier.
I've grown with success in years past, the only variable I can attribute to my lack of pinning is the fact that I had my fluorescent on the same cycle timer as I had the humidifier on (45 secs on, 5 mins off.)
Would this be enough to stunt pinning, or should I look elsewhere for an explanation?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7765714 - 12/16/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is the rye cased?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: Nibin]
#7765740 - 12/16/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep, 50/50 ph adjusted.
The mycelium completely ignored it,and threw out an army of aerial rhizo growth up and over the casing.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7766189 - 12/16/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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just wait and see. I've had casings take up to and even a little past 2 weeks to start pinning (with aerial rhizos). How often do you mist your casing layer? Pics?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: kane.ish]
#7766696 - 12/16/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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does it look anything like this??
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: tahoe]
#7766894 - 12/16/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doesn't really look like the pic.
I get a full FAE every 5 mins, humidity stays at 99%+ constantly.
Imagine scores of plump q-tips, shooting vertically from the casing layer. I've plucked one, smelled and tasted it, definitely cubensis mycelium.
No digicam to speak of unfortunately.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7766913 - 12/16/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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And they aren't hyphal knots?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: Nibin]
#7767129 - 12/16/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like hyphea knots, should pin soon. give it another few days
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: veda_sticks]
#7767246 - 12/16/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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doesnt sound like hyphal knots. Sounds like mycelium that is fanningout above the cashing layer. This is not something to get excited about. This is not ideal.
Are spraying your casings with water?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: veda_sticks]
#7767256 - 12/16/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Leave your light on ten to twelve hours per day for best results. Mycelium has been shown to have a circadian rhythm, just like mammals.
Aerial rhizos often form when the mycelium is healthy and rapidly growing. It won't be long and the mycelium will settle down and pin. RR
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7767284 - 12/16/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Was close, not quite right but close.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: veda_sticks]
#7774806 - 12/18/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I rigged a webcam to take these, excuse the crappy quality.


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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7774820 - 12/18/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow thats some serious mycelium growth... did you slip them some of your roids?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: bryanbzl]
#7774915 - 12/18/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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WOW, that might be beyond just regular rhizo myc. I expected you to show a pic like this one:

Hopefully someone with more knowledge/experience can lead you in the right direction. I myself have never encountered this problem. Good luck!
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#7775010 - 12/18/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Overlay?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: moho456]
#7775038 - 12/18/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats crazy! its growing into air!
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: veda_sticks]
#7775203 - 12/18/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So whats the call?
1. Scratch? 2. Recase? 3. Leave them be?
I have two quarts worth of straight grain in these plate things, been in there for about 10 days.
I have a a 6 quart rye tray next to these, from the same mother LC, just put it in this morning.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7775255 - 12/18/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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at wich temperature do you have them???...
I think is better to recase and put then in the frisge 12 hours...
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: Vyrk]
#7775445 - 12/18/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mason's hygrometer inside FC reads 74 whenever I care to look at it.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: SuperPuma]
#7775638 - 12/18/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had similar style of growth on a cake once..not to that extreme though, and it ended up contaminating shortly afterwards.
Here's what mine looked like
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: enesi]
#7775655 - 12/18/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry I can't say anything overly productive here, but WOW.... wow.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: enesi]
#7776593 - 12/19/07 06:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what strain is that ?
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. [Re: enesi]
#7776606 - 12/19/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take the casings inside of ziplock bags and put those in the fridge por 12/24 hours... So the mycelium believe there is time to fructificate not for vegetative grow... (WINTER).
The fridge at 4ÂșC, not the freezer.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. SOMEONE PLEASE KNOW WHAT THIS IS!! PICS [Re: Vyrk]
#7776611 - 12/19/07 07:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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cubes are tropical and dont benifit from a cold shock like that, but its worth a shot, seems like its still trying to colinise.... anything never seen that much overgrow before.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. SOMEONE PLEASE KNOW WHAT THIS IS!! PICS [Re: veda_sticks]
#7778610 - 12/19/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Strain: Not sure, either Penis Envy or Malabar from Sporeworks.
How much of a faux pas is that anyway?
I'm gonna leave them be for the time being, I have a 6 quart rye tray going right next to these so, these I consider expendable.
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Re: Aerial Rhizo growth, no pins. SOMEONE PLEASE KNOW WHAT THIS IS!! PICS [Re: SuperPuma]
#7780602 - 12/20/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just leave it be.
Are you sure you have adequate FAE? As long as you do, just leave it alone (keep misting of course) it - it will pin eventually.
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