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Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question
    #7764844 - 12/16/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have started my first attempt at rye grain jars using two pint jars.
colonization seems to be moving along fine and there are no signs of contamination in either jar.i cut a 3/4 inch diameter hole in the lids and used a double layer of tyvek butt...one of the jars on closer inspection smells of fermentation.
is this a FAE problem?
is this normal?


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765008 - 12/16/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Using two, one pint jars, or using jars which contain two pints?


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: Nibin]
    #7765021 - 12/16/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

are you trying to confuse me?

i am using two (comma) one pint size jars (comma) one of which seems to be doing ok.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765029 - 12/16/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dude Nibin is an asshole.

if its a very strong mushroomy and digested rye smell you should be fine. if you take a whiff right after you transfer grain you will notice a strong smell.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: poot]
    #7765042 - 12/16/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i can smell it through the tyvek and it kinda smells like the smell you get making beer.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765058 - 12/16/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hmm, as long as you have no visible contaminations or slimes you should be ok. beer is made using grain and such, so im sure the smells are similar. i use the same tyvek method even though i only use 1 disk and never contam. youll be fine :thumbup:


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765076 - 12/16/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The smell might be the start of Wet Spot.

Have a read about it here.
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: poot]
    #7765079 - 12/16/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

how much % is the stinky jar colonized?
does the jar appear to be WET?


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: poot]
    #7765099 - 12/16/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thanks i'll just keep an eye (and a nose) on it.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7765126 - 12/16/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i soaked the rye for 24 hours then simmered it then pressure cooked it and it doesn't smell like dirty socks or burnt bacon.
the rye in the jars actually looked a little dry butt i don't really know what it is supposed to look like.
colonization is going good so i think i am in good shape.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765142 - 12/16/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There was a reason behind my question.

If a amount of colonizing substrate is too thick the middle can go anaerobic and go bad. It happens all the time with people who make their substrate layer too thick.

EDIT: Still half asleep. 2 pints = 1 Quart (damn you non metric system users) and most people use quart jars for grains, so amount of substrate (going anaerobic) isn't going to be a problem.

Imperial measuring system still has it's hidden secrets for me.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: poot]
    #7765182 - 12/16/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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poot said:
dude Nibin is an asshole.





did you get a chance to read the forum rules before making this post?
while we're all adults here it's sometimes better to use a bit of caution when
posting. there is forum for flaming and other less civilized behavior


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765194 - 12/16/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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mycosis said:
i am using two (comma) one pint size jars (comma) one of which seems to be doing ok.





while it's a little late for this go-round, I recommend using quart jars for
grains, most PCs can handle a quart, if you fit gallon jars in your PC go that
route, you'll be happier with the results


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: Nibin]
    #7765198 - 12/16/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the jars are about 3/4 full.

i left enough room to shake them.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7765211 - 12/16/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

my pressure cooker will hold 4 quart jars...i just wanted to start small.
it's my first try and all.


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Re: Smelly Rye Grain Jar Question [Re: mycosis]
    #7765261 - 12/16/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

small is cool, you'll see my meaning when you do it again, seems I always need a bigger PC.


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he rye in the jars actually looked a little dry butt i don't really know what it is supposed to look like.


if it looks a little dry then it's probably perfect, sounds like you're doing everything just fine


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