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'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada
    #7764112 - 12/15/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal
Published: Friday, December 14, 2007

MONCTON, N.B. -Police have been forced to drop charges against a Moncton man because the drug he was caught with isn't illegal - although it has the same effect as LSD and ecstasy.

Two months ago, RCMP and Canada Border Service Agency officers raided the man's Moncton home and seized a shipment of 28,000 pills worth $1 million that they thought were LSD and ecstasy. But they've had to abandon the prosecution because the people who made the pills tweaked the recipe just enough to beat the law - the drug they found no longer matches any on the list of restricted drugs under the Controlled Drug and Substances Act.

"If it's not part of the (Criminal) Code, police can't lay charges," explains Jennifer Hebert, a criminal lawyer.

On Wednesday, charges were dropped against a 41-year-old man for possession of illegal drugs.

The so-called "designer drug" is known as Piperazine, a chemical used to make industrial cleaners.

It was made in clandestine labs in Europe by black-market chemists, said RCMP Const. Chantal Farrah.

Farrah says people who take it get the same effect as if they took LSD or ecstasy. Beyond that, it's also toxic, she said, "so it's still a risk to our youth."

Hebert says drug dealers are trying to stay ahead of the law.

"They are looking at ways to get around the Criminal Code. They're looking at what the chemical composition is, what meets the criteria, what doesn't. What they can add to change the chemical compound to the substance."

What worries police and lawyers most is that until it is listed as a restricted drug it's not an offence to possess it.

Police say they are talking with Ottawa to get the list amended. But federal Justice officials have not said how long it will take to put the new drug on the banned substances list.

Hebert says it had better be soon.

"If the federal government doesn't act to move to amend the Code, it opens the door," she said.

Drug dealers know what substances won't meet the criteria to be included on the list and they will keep producing them, she said.

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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: johnm214]
    #7764120 - 12/15/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This article if fantastic.

Piperazine doesn't seem to be active, so it sounds like this reporter, yet again, fucks up the story.

What was the drug? How do they know it is "toxic" (whatever that means) if they don't identify it?

And how does something have the same effects as MDMA and LSD when the two work differently?

So many questions


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http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=ef87cf2b-64e1-40b9-8404-cb9199f302f9&k=94914


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: johnm214]
    #7764279 - 12/16/07 12:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"28,000 pills worth $1 million that they thought were LSD and ecstasy."

since when does LSD come in pills?

I hate reporters that don't give a fuck about getting their shit straight. I really do.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7764320 - 12/16/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so where can i get some?

if its still legal we should be able to order it on the internet!!!!

What a wonderful drug it would be, an automatic candy-flip


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Molasses]
    #7764348 - 12/16/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Haha I think they're talking about BZP, misinformed chumps.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Emong]
    #7764473 - 12/16/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Before you call people misinformed chumps make sure you know what you are talking about. BZP isn't the drug they are talking about. I am almost sure they are talking about this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFMPP

The drug is called Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine
try pronouncing that word.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Emong]
    #7764479 - 12/16/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Sporetastic]
    #7764482 - 12/16/07 01:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Sporetastic said:
The drug is called Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine
try pronouncing that word.





Pfft no dice, I can even do it three times fast:

TrifluoromethylphenylpiperazineTrifluoromethylphenylpiperazineTrifluoromethylphenylpiperazine

Hot shit or what?


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7764491 - 12/16/07 01:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

The combination of BZP and TFMPP has been associated with a range of side effects, including insomnia, anxiety, nausea and vomiting, headaches and muscle aches which may resemble migraine, seizures, impotence, and rarely psychosis, as well as a prolonged and unpleasant hangover effect similar to that produced by alcohol. These side effects tend to be significantly worsened when the BZP/TFMPP mix is consumed alongside alcohol, especially the headache, nausea and hangover.




.... impotence?! fuck that i'm not taking it.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: learningtofly]
    #7764500 - 12/16/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

as if extasy and other amphetamines don't have the same effects


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: johnm214]
    #7764549 - 12/16/07 01:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well i dont know anything about ectasy or other amphet's


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: learningtofly]
    #7764562 - 12/16/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

could you ever dream this shit up? i mean, this IS propaganda. don't think i've seen such a clear example before.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Noviseer]
    #7764581 - 12/16/07 01:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's cool how the government is forcing people to use less healthy drugs, just to entertain or enlighten themselves without having police kicking their door in.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7764621 - 12/16/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

that's pretty much what drug testing does.  Forces pot heads to do crack and opiates :thumbup:

Good job society/parents/nannystate


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7764771 - 12/16/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Uh there called Microdots.


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: hpi]
    #7764784 - 12/16/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I thought this was gonna be about Salvia... I'm a little disappointed... :frown:


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: learningtofly]
    #7764833 - 12/16/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)



Amphetamines definitely don't cause impotence... you ever had sex after popping a couple of Adderall? Try it, your girl will worship you.

At least they are't trying to sell MPTP or anything...


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: johnm214]
    #7764866 - 12/16/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

OK so the report said the effect is like taking LSD or ecstasy. first of all they are completely different highs. especially the speed based tabs. which are most prevalent since meth is alot easier to come by and to cut with. and there is a huge difference b/w a acid trip and the speeped out roll. any honestly i dont think there is any legal drug that could equal up to a good candy flip. there's no way. and anyone who has candy flipped on numerous occasions will probaly back me here. any yes LSD deff. comes in pills, the larger the better:crazy2: but their usually microdots, and seem to be way pricier...

just my two cents:rolleyes:


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: johnm214]
    #7764898 - 12/16/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

R U SERIOUS?? lol dango bill. take some fuckin adderall. how old are you.. 15? just go get some meth buddy, its way better:evil:

and if you need adderall to please your lady..well im pretty sure they make drugs espically for that.. anyone who tries to take adderall to get a high is lame. espically b/c you probaly just break it in half and drink it wih some OJ or something lol. if your going to try and get high off that then at least break that shit into a moster ass line, and get your friend to video record it with some cool music in the back ground. then you can look back onto it and realize how cool you really are!!!  hey hey i think i just planned your next friday night  :dancing:


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Re: 'Designer' drug hits like acid, but isn't illegal; Canada [Re: knotty]
    #7765382 - 12/16/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LMFAO. knotty is proof that meth fucks you up and leaves a stupid, unintelligible husk.


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