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OfflinePsy Baba
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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7763237 - 12/15/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If he is not in a vegetative state when he is released, I may have to do that.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7763345 - 12/15/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

id have to say he's pretty good at manipulating for all those effects you mention as IMO im the same

somehow you just gotta convince him to be/beleive in himself first so he can beleive in others

and not "live and let die"


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7763365 - 12/15/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My situation was I was severely depressed about something for almost a year, and tried several different SSRI's over months, they all made me go even crazier and deeper into depression for certain. Then I went on a hardcore psychedelic drug binge for about two weeks straight, using dozens of different psychedelics and drugs (all kinds of shit). There were like two different hurricanes that came through during that binge.. My mom came over to my house and fuckin called the cops on me because things got extremely bizzare lol and i was talking crazy shit about wanting to die.. so i got 72 hours for that. The place was ok, but most of the people in there were 100X's more fucked up than me. Then a week later after I was released I went to a really expensive place to sign up for some "help" and be an "out-patient". Well the bitch that interviewed me stood up in the room and slammed on a big red button on the wall and then several people escorted me into another 72 hour stint lol, i was kinda pissed about the whole thing. So I started pacing around the place like a fucking mad-man demanding they give me all kinds of drugs lol then several of the staff people escorted me into a side-room getting ready to hold me down and one of them comes in with a fucking needle in his hand getting ready to fucking jack me up on some shit. I was just like "whoa whoa whoa whoa, I fucking hate needles, just give me some pills instead" so they gave me some xanax and some other shit and made me read magazines by myself in the room for an hour until my panic attack went away. Everything was a-ok after that. The whole time I was in there was during another hurricane too. Fuckin wild time. Never had suicidal thoughts since then. I blame SSRI's for the most part. The drug binge did not help the situation the slightest (it was over the top fear and loathing shit), and all the fucking hurricanes didn't help either. But that young Costa Rican girl was...very helpful in my recovery lol.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7763384 - 12/15/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think i know that costarican girl your talking about...

(exhales)


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7763394 - 12/15/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, SSRI's are pretty sketchy substances.  I was on them at one point in life and got off those in a hurry.

  Glad someone got you through the day though :smile:. Also glad you are hear to tell your story.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7763443 - 12/15/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
SSRI's are pretty sketchy substances.




If your "friend" is on SSRI's, that may be the reason psychedelics don't seem to affect him. I was on Paxil for a while, followed by Zoloft, and the effects of acid seemed cut in half even after being off of them for almost a month. Thank god that went away with time though...

SSRI's are the fuckin devil


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7763457 - 12/15/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they just give you pills like that?

when i worked at ups, i used to steal anti-depressants that were going to doctors and they made me feel like shit. i had a couple of co-workers that were on anti-depressant pills and the same thing. one guy was one anti-schizophrenia pills, when i took them, i would get so tired and so pissed off...he said they did the same to him.

ever since doing those...randomly like once or twice a year, ill get these EXTREME senses of fear and ill like her voices rushing me and yelling at me. it's so extreme that it actually scares me. i think they may slightly altered something in my head.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #7763485 - 12/15/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That is a possibility. Another factor may be certain areas of the brain not being functional.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7763517 - 12/15/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have been put on several different anti-depressant medications. None of them as hardcore as Lithium but I never pursued anything better. All the psych's I've seen have been in regards to getting off of H and Oxy. I've seen doctors for mental health probably 8-10 times in the last few years, every single one prescribed or gave me anti depressants on hand. Everyone I ever took made me feel completely numb to the world, there was nothing, much less depression. I found the shroomery and got into growing cubes for a while, had 3 amazing amazonian trips. That was it, my depression was over. I've learned to put the thoughts and energy I wasted on being depressed towards my education, or personal pursuits.

That gave me the groundwork for getting sober. Its nothing to brag about but I have a real life worth living now.



For someone like this to be so extreme to the point you think he should be supervised 24/7. Its exactly that, this guy is obviously to the absolute extreme in his condition whatever it might be and if you as a friend thinks he should be supervised, your right man. I know that attempting to commit suicide is against the law, because of this they can "baker act" him in the event he even says something like he's going to hurt himself.

Its on his record now regardless if THEY do anything. If you see the obvious signs or something like this happens again, let someone know. Whoever needs to know, at this point your not "snitching" your saving the kids life.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7763802 - 12/15/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Was he on medication at the time, or does he just have some in-built tolerance to mushrooms?

While people like this can be hard to deal with and seem attention-seeking, they are genuinely damaged in a bad way. Try to be as nice and helpful as you can to the guy, no matter how strange and self-destructive he gets. He's reaching out to you in his twisted way, in all likelihood.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7764030 - 12/15/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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they just give you pills like that?





Trust me dude, I was amist some kind of severe psychedelic drug over-use psychosis:) Things were getting kind of fucking weird lol it was The Wall

But yeah they gave me xanax and some kind of valium kind of stuff each day i was in there, so I was content. They also put me on Zyprexa in there.. Zyprexa had zero effect on me as far as I could tell..

I fucking loaded up, on lots of drugs for the hurricanes.. little bit and a lot a bit of everything, collected from friends, dealers, online friends, my own stuff i grew or picked, and a few different online sources.. enthnobotanicals and rc's, you name it i probably fucking had it. It was really a lot like fear and loathing. After the second hurricane passed my mom came by my house to check up on me.. i wont even get into the details, but anybody who would have walked into my living room would have really sensed something was very-wrong-there lol you could cut through the air with a fucking knife the psychedelic-vibes were so vividly-thick.

Anyways, my mom calls the coppers on me so I run away down the block and find a hiding place in some really tall grass along a stream. I sit there for about an hour, it was like a hundred fucking degrees out, i wasn't wearing shoes, chainsmoked a  pack of cigarettes sitting there watching cops and ambulances and shit driving by looking for me. I eventually got so thirsty i just said fuck it and walked back to the house hoping the coast would be clear.. well a pig drove up to me before I even got back to the house and starts questioning me. He saw my living room and other bizzarities, questioning me, so i spent like 20 minutes trying to convince him i am just and "artist" and i am just "making art" and to leave me alone. Well he cuffed my ass and took me in to the crisis center.

I literally went over the edge with the binge. Literally dozens of different drugs, mixing many of them for literally about two weeks. i had beer and booze, cigarettes, indian tobbaco, amanita mushrooms, copelandia mushrooms, panaeolus mushrooms, cubensis mushrooms, gymnopilus mushrooms, lsd, couple kinds of E, wormwood extract, amanita extract, san pedro, quite a bit of different brews of ayahuasca, salvia extracts, yopo seeds and passion flower, shwag bud, kind bud, hash, a couple different kinds of 2CI shit, xanax, valium, (no opiates i dont touch that shit anymore), 5meo-dmt (fucking ghetto dmt), some kind of ssri (fucking evil shit), 5HTP or whatever that shit is called, some kind of amphetamine pills i wasnt sure what they were called and i normally never use speed but they were free, no coke or crack im not into that shit, a few other weird enthnobotanical extracts that i wasnt too familiar with, syrian rue (that shit is fucking dangerous when mixing all these drugs together), dxm (i just think that stuff is lame as hell so only did it one night on this binge), asprin, coffee, hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, a couple other spicy rc's that i wasn't familiar with (i think all rc's basically suck), st johns wort extract, valarian root extract i think, ephedrin pills, and what really really really think did me in was entirely too much 5meo amt (that stuff is fucking nasty, fuxxored me up for days on end with no chance of sleeping). i'm sure there were a few other drugs involved too i just cant think of them.

moral of the story, dont fucking do what i did, you'll go nuts.

especially don't do it if you are feeling depressed and riding out a couple hurricanes by yourself.

GG

anyways, i pulled through. i don't use any kind of psychiatric medicines anymore, and im doin great.

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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7764043 - 12/15/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have pretty much the same opinion on the drugs you listed. except e, i've never done and dont really want to.

how old were you when this happened?


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7764121 - 12/15/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i dont believe it, who could take that many pills and still be alive? :lol: :lol:lol:


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7764264 - 12/16/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hey layyouin,

i've only tried E on several occassions. most people love the stuff, i think it is really artificial. artificial would be the word i would use for it, and not to offend anyone who likes mdma-kinda stuff, but i think it kind of gay actually. more power to the people who use it and like it alot though... it apparently could possibly be the most useful drug in doing psychedelic psychotherapy sessions someday somewhere down the line hopefully. and i am all for that.

really the only uh "chemical" psychedelic drug i will put into my body anymore is lsd.

everybody who uses spice raves about it and loves the stuff, but it is not my scene. the whole act of smoking crystals and shit doesnt interest me anymore. the whole ritual of it, the way it is smoked just reminds me too much of meth or something. plus, ive seen enough dumbasses abuse the stuff in a way that just gives me bad vibes. it has really risen in popularity in recent years so ive seen people just being kind of ghetto about it, when it pretty much just belongs in hippie-hands. more power to the people who know how to do it right though.

i dont really use too much drugs anymore.

i was probably 24 when that shit went down.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7764288 - 12/16/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
If he is not in a vegetative state when he is released




Yeah, right, a few cups of whiskey and 20 pills of Zoloft will do that to you.

Also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoloft#Suicidality


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: ivi]
    #7764368 - 12/16/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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ivi said:
Quote:

DuNeRaVeR said:
If he is not in a vegetative state when he is released




Yeah, right, a few cups of whiskey and 20 pills of Zoloft will do that to you.

Also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoloft#Suicidality




Not really. SSRI's aren't that toxic. A 20pill dose isn't gonna mess him up, especially since he went to the hospital right afterwords. SSRI's effects are similar to LSD, w/ super high doses their more minor effects can become signifigant, but 20 pills probably won't do much besides make him sick.

Still not a good idea to do, though. You don't want to be in the 1% that has a problem.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: johnm214]
    #7764438 - 12/16/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I really do fail at conveying sarcasm over the internets.


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: ivi]
    #7764459 - 12/16/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, I guess i fail on picking it up


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: ivi]
    #7765767 - 12/16/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Its all in the :rolleyes:


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Re: A "friend" of mine attempted suicide last night. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8516782 - 06/12/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

wowow. if you have to go get help because of suicidal thoughts, that just makes you want to commit suicide more, and if you are really just doing it for attention, and you really want help. then get help, or have a friend get you help before you anounce to the fucking world that you want to end your life. don't waste everyones time pretending you're going to commit suicide because there are people who actually are planning on it, who really don't want help.
get over yourselves and get help on your own.


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