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Mixing strains/ mixing spores
    #7763057 - 12/15/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok this is a crazy question do you think i can take 2 different spore prints an mix them together in a syringe what would happen. would they grow right or has no 1 ever tried it i looked every were an couldnt find the answer so now im asking you guys.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: shroomials]
    #7763061 - 12/15/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm pretty sure the stronger MYC would kill off the weaker.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7763219 - 12/15/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You can get a mix but it will be hard to tell. In the advanced forum there is a thread about using agar and then isolating two strains from different cubes putting them in agar and trying to get a third isolate to start from the original two near where they set up a division between the two of of them in the plate. Then you would have to stabilize the new hybrid by going back to a original of the two then need some generation of that while fruiting out to test them all. But to do it the way you want you wont really be able to tell if you did it or not.


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7763230 - 12/15/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you want to cross strain it's a little more complicated than just mixing the spores.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7764321 - 12/16/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is asked about three times a week. Do a search before you post.


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Nibin]
    #7764565 - 12/16/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if you answer the question then these posts will all stop at like 3 posts and then they would not seem like a problem at all. by prolonging the question you are just making it worse. douche-machine.

shroomials, you have a 50 percent chance of seeing any noticeable changes doing that, and 50 percent chance of no change at all. unless you're an agar specialist, its pretty much up to the fungus how it will do its thing.


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: poot]
    #7764641 - 12/16/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wrong. The chances are not 50 50. It is a lot more complex than that. Genetics aren't a case of mixing and getting 50/50 chances.

For example, if a given gene has 2 possible presentations and mendelian behaviour, presents no codominances, in the case of heterozygotal parents , the offspring would present one phenotype 75% of the time and the other 25% of the time. If the parents are homozygotic the dominant phenotype will present 100% of the time.

And that would just apply to one gene of a single genome


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Nibin]
    #7764677 - 12/16/07 03:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so why didnt you say this in the first place instead of whining about this poor kid askin a question?


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: poot]
    #7765056 - 12/16/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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poot said:
so why didnt you say this in the first place instead of whining about this poor kid askin a question?




Because it is forum policy that people should at least try and search a bit before asking questions.

And he said
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Ok this is a crazy question do you think i can take 2 different spore prints an mix them together in a syringe what would happen. would they grow right or has no 1 ever tried it i looked every were an couldnt find the answer so now im asking you guys.





Which is untrue. He can't have looked everywhere because I just typed mixing strains into the forum search engine and got 1000 (maximum) results many of them answering the same question.

He says he searched everywhere and didn't find anything but in fact he is just being lazy.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3643756#3643756
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You won't know what strain will be produced.

You might get one...you might get both...but you won't get a hybred of both.

Do not grow out and trade...as you don't know what you will end up with....please.
I worry about the shroomery getting mixed strains of cubensis because of people mixing up grows like this.

TC




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2416585#2416585

Too long a post to quote
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2659188#2659188

ditto
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545843#5545843


And I can keep going if you want. They all come from the results of the search engine.

I don't mind answering questions again and again, you can ask a lot of people here. I have a lot of patience and the time I started in this hobby isn't that far away that I don't remember how confusing this can get, but I don't like laziness. You can't expect people to do your research for you, especially when it is so easily available.




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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Nibin]
    #7765066 - 12/16/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah keep going its funny


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: poot]
    #7765724 - 12/16/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yo chill out poots

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Cacophony]
    #7766081 - 12/16/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey all, at first I thought nibin was being a nazi too, Ask him. but he has more experience in mycology and this forum that any of you, and he takes his time to answer questions with VALUABLE answers, so quit plugging up the forums with talking shit.
How can it make you feel good to talk shit to somebody on the internet, You cant hit them

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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: P.Menace]
    #7766116 - 12/16/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

he should either answer the question or move on. he doesn't have to act like he runs the place. although his advise is usually spot on.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: norml840]
    #7766218 - 12/16/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

some people just dont know how to state their questions in the search engine (this is a bogus one, because this question can easily be answered as Nibin said) but when i had a question about metabolites, I thought it was contaminates and didnt know otherwise... Metabolites had not been covered in any of the reading material i researched.


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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: norml840]
    #7766225 - 12/16/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Lol lay off Nibin. This is something that isn't really Hard to search and in the last week this has been answered 4 times. Telling someone to use the search is no rude it sounds rude but I say it like 4 times a day. It means you can learn more from doing a search and reading for a hour or two and know the reasons why instead of us just saying Yes or No. All the info is on this site and the only questions you should have to ask are people opinions on things that you found to be contradicting. I have never read anything on mushrooms besides what I have seen at this site and I answer lots of questions all the info is already here and the forums are for informed people to discus what they learned and get help not people asking what a liquid culture is and why do we use tyvek for them.


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7766376 - 12/16/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Some people need to be told to use the search engine.. Like Shroomials...

Example 1
Example 2

My guess? Nibin is tired of this guy posting questions in the forum when he could answer them himself in 30 fucking seconds. Use the goddamn search engine. Ask questions when you have read everything and want a little advice for your situation, or if you want to show off, or something. One of the most common threads seems to be.. Why can't I get pins/fruits/growth? THAT is a legitimate question, in my view. What's NOT legit are topics like.. How do I make BRF cakes? What is casing for? Why mist? Should I wipe my ass after I shit? Fuck! Learn something on your own and quit begging to be spoon-fed everything.

Phew. Sorry.

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Metabolites had not been covered in any of the reading material i researched.



It has been my experience as well, that pictures of the rusty orange spots of metabolites can be difficult to come by. I think, maybe they should be included in the Contamination FAQ, because they are NOT contaminates.

I hope you enjoyed that, as much as I did.



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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: thedefone]
    #7766410 - 12/16/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the support but stop hijacking the original posters thread :rotfl:


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Nibin]
    #7766456 - 12/16/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hmm ok every 1 im sorry nibin does answer every ones questions i see him every were its just when i look this up i read but its harder to understand they explain it somtimes in a different way then some one else could. so thats why i ask i can say im new i dont know the rules like that around here but ill only post stuff now on thats worth posting.
but growing mushrooms an studying how they work is pretty fun tho i enjoy it alot from the 2 times ive done it. well good bye

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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: Nibin]
    #7766571 - 12/16/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Nibin said:
Thanks for the support but stop hijacking the original posters thread :rotfl:




lol nazi to the end


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7766626 - 12/16/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:hitlerdance:


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Re: Mixing strains/ mixing spores [Re: shroomials]
    #7767208 - 12/16/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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