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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Using straight whole brown rice with no vermiculite supposed to be really fast. However I've never tried it only read about it. I will try next batch.


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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leave the substrate as lose as you can, you wont fit nearly as much into each jar as the recipe calls for, but it will colonize a lot faster.

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: diseased]
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If you want some faster colognizing, try transfering mycleium to a new substrate like cut a piece of one colognized jar and stick that into a new jar and it will save you the couple of days it takes for your spores to germinate. I have been doing this with grains and noticed they go alot faster than with just spores. Also one time I made a whole syringe from 1 dark eq print that was about the size of a quarter. The syringe was so purple/black with spores and I squirted about 1 cc's of soluition in each of the four holes in the lid around the whole cake and the cake finished in like 5 or 6 days. Its a waste of spores but if you have plenty than why not. I love making some dark ass syringes.

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: Killa420]
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I agree, take a "master jar" and use it to colonize new jars. It cuts the colonization time down quiet a bit. If your feeling really adventurous, try using agar. Its really not hard at all, and works extremely well. bluhoney


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: Squid]
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In reply to:
Using straight whole brown rice with no vermiculite supposed to be really fast.

I dunno.....If that were a better way to go, that would be the route everyone goes. The verm serves a purpose, that is why its part of the formula. Moisture is very important. After all mushrooms are about 90% water. Yet like you, I cant speak from experience, never tryed a straight rice cake. Dont think I will either

If this thread turns in too a "colonization in 3 days" Im gonna shit right here!!


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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: bluhoney]
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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yeah, the only problem is you have to open the lid, so sterility is a big factor..but ive done it successfully and it does go a little faster. Oh and yeah, looser subtrate will yield less,( but if you use it for spawn it doesnt really matter.)

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Using sterile technique , really just a can of lysol, some gloves and a clean surface will sufice. Put the colonized jar beside the fresh jar. with a exacto knife,(heated over a flame), quickly open the lid of the master jar and stab a small piece of mycelia from the jar and transfer it quickly to the uncolonized jar. Remember mycelia itself is not as easily contaminiated as most people think, its the substrate that causes most problems, once the mycelia is mature it has good immunity(not great) but good. Agar is nothing more than a part of seaweed sold in health food stores as nail hardener supplements. Professional agar is a little different, but the health food type works good. My friend uses agar from the health store. Try this:
Take two whole potatoes, wash them good and then grate them in a pot. Add water and boil until the potatoes are cooked. Now Pour this through cheese cloth(available at walmart) into a jar. Keep the liquid, eat the potatoes . Now pour this liquid into a pot and slowly bring to a boil. Add 4 tablespoons of sugar into the pot, then add 3/4 cup agar, and cut off the heat. Pour the mixture into petri dishes( or use widemouth half pint jars). Now pressure cook the jars at 15psi for 1 hour, let cool and then innoculate (dry spores work best, but just a drop of spore water works well. Inncubate like normal jars and when the white stuff grows and forms ropy sectors, cut a small piece of this(vigorous growth) and put it into a unclonized jar. Works great. From one petri dish, you can create 20 more or more new jars. bluhoney


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Yup, what everyone else said. To colonize PF jars faster use smaller jars, don't pack the substrate at all, use the right amount of water, innoculate with more spore solution in more places or better yet innoculate with mycelium, and incubate at 85 F.


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Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I've been eating them, for six or seven weeks now, haven't got sick once.

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: bluhoney]
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"Ahh, thats what I was hoping for, did this method hurt the yield at all? And it was ready to birth in 5-6 days?"

No this didnt affect no yeild at all. The jar was 100% done in like 5 or 6 days, dont remember exactly. If your doing cakes then you will want to leave it for a couple of more days, but since I was doing a casing it was done right then and there.

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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Killa420]
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Not sure, I have never incubated at that temp. I guess it would work, but then it will probally take longer.

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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: pleezr]
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Well one step I forgot to mention is that you have to cook the rice before you use it. The cooked rice should hold quite a bit of water. Here is a link to the tek.
http://www.shroomery.org/9er/substrate.html


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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What strain is it?


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: pleezr]
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Well PleezR I can say I`ve tried whole rice cakes and they do colonise faster than my brf/verm cakes. Also I find you don`t pack the substrate in either so that might be a cause of the faster colonisation.
One thing I did note is that the whole rice jar was the perfect water to substrate ratio and colonised well.Some of my brf/verm cakes started gunking up after a while as the mycelium produced moisture.
One thing I have noted is that the whole rice doesn`t produce large fruits, nice fruits, good size yes but not what is to be expected.
So it has it`s pros but lots of cons.
I`ve been instead colonising whole rise and then thinking of spawning poo or straw.
Although, the whole rice idea is fading fast.
Rye is deffinately becoming my preferred substrate.

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Liquid Substrate Tek http://www.mycofanatic.com/teks/lsubstrate.htm

Its really easy, I just boiled some water and put into a jar. Once the water had cooled for about 10 secs ( ) I mixed in a few drops of honey and put a lid on the jar. Leave the jar for several days the spores can germinate.
Whenever I need to innoculate a jar I just steralize a syringe, shake the jar with the honey water in, and suck up 10cc of that lovely liquid. And as I can make new liquid substrate jars by just adding a bit of this liquid substrate to another jar with honey water in, you can use as much solution on each jar as you like.

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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: RemiMartin]
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Filter disks in PF jars are supposed to speed up colonisation. I have no experience with them, suposed to work good tho.

Good luck



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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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Germinating is when the spores first turn into mycelium I think (something like that) and can take several days even in perfect conditions, longer in alot of cases. Once mycelium has formed it can spread very quick. When I put spore solution into honey water its 2 or 3 days before I see mycelium. When I put mycelium solution in honey water I have seen growth in just a few hours.

The bit I like is that you can innoculate hundreds of jars with one spore print or syringe, maybe I'm just a tight bastard.

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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: RemiMartin]
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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isolate a rhizomorphic strain - otherwise it just pot luck with a spore-match.


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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: merk227]
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I used a spore print from homestead to innoculate agar. It took around a week to see visible growth. I think it took this long because the spores were dry and the air had very low humidity (Tuscon, AZ). For 1/2 pint PF jars I used a PF classic spore syringe and by the third day I had mycelium patches the size of nickels. Germination rate depends on growing conditions and whether or not the spores are hydrated and fresh.


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Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I've been eating them, for six or seven weeks now, haven't got sick once.

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Re: Fast Colinization Methods [Re: matts]
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Well, to go real old school, here is a tried and proven recipie for whole brown rice.
Use pint jars
Whole Brown Rice
Water
1/4 cup uncooked Whole Brown rice
1/3 to 1/2 cup water
Fill each jar with 1/4 water, 1/3-1/2 Whole Brown rice
Put the lids on rubberside up and loose.
Pressure cook for 45 minutes at 15 psi.
Let cool ONLY til the point of the seal breaking on the pressure cooker.
Its going to be hot
Now tighten the lids and shake the rice cake up.
Then let cool in clean area
Innoculate with Spore water
If you let the jars cool before shaking them, the cakes will congel together.
I realize you wanted a cake method, but this (even though old school) recipie works, You will still get a cake, but it wont be a pretty cake, or go ahead and break it up and innoculate. bluhoney


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