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veda_sticks
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H202 - stop using it in everything!!!!
#7762241 - 12/15/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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After reading and probably answering far too many posts where h202 has come up and being used in water, humidifiers misitng bottles.
Stop it!!
h202 does more damage to mushroom mycelium than other moulds.
Dont mist with water/h202
Dont inject h202 into lcs
Dont use h202 in an lc solution.
Dont put it in your humidifier
The only effective use of h202 is to fight cobweb.
SO, IF YOU HAVE COBWEB - H202 OTHER THAN THAT DONT USE IT
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elnico
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: veda_sticks]
#7762879 - 12/15/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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but what will i replace h2o2 with!!?
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veda_sticks
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: elnico]
#7762893 - 12/15/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nothing you dont need it!!!
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Vyrk
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: veda_sticks]
#7762984 - 12/15/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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and why?
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blood4blood
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Vyrk]
#7763020 - 12/15/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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how will i survive without H2o2?
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BUDDHA_702
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: blood4blood]
#7763065 - 12/15/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peroxide in LC, how about just using sterile procedures
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7763349 - 12/15/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i used it to moisten up my perlite is this ok or dont use it at all?
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Premedman1
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: kupa trooper]
#7763393 - 12/15/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Makes good mouthwash.
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kupa trooper



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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Premedman1]
#7763410 - 12/15/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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so thats a no
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Vyrk
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: kupa trooper]
#7763910 - 12/15/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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there is also a paper made from a mycologist about the use of the peroxid in the mycology.
http://www.mycomasters.com/Peroxide_Manual.html
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Nibin
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Vyrk]
#7764289 - 12/16/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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He gets very patchy results and a high failure rate. Peroxide isn't a alternative to good sterile technique.
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Nibin]
#7764486 - 12/16/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't use it in a humidifier? It keeps the water nice and fresh...or so I thought?
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poot
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Pentahedral]
#7764552 - 12/16/07 01:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you put H2O2 on zits that you have just popped and then a suitable antibacterial agent you mind not end up with the pockmarks i have.
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Nibin
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Pentahedral]
#7764629 - 12/16/07 02:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Pentahedral said: Why don't use it in a humidifier? It keeps the water nice and fresh...or so I thought?
Because it will decompose in no time and become water and stop having an effect.
It also causes people to be lazy and not clean up their humidifier as often.
Also, peroxide sanitizes doesn't sterilize. Different concepts.
Another also. Pharmacy peroxide is diluted to 3% (97% water). By adding it to the water in your humidifier you are diluting it even more. So you really think that such a small amount of peroxide is going to help¿?
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Nibin]
#7764725 - 12/16/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My humidifiers get less scum without peroxide. It has little other use in myclogy besides cobweb control. In fact, that's all I use it for anymore. RR
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Vyrk
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7764818 - 12/16/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So... Why not use H202 in complement with all the sterile techniques or to combat contam?
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Nibin
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Vyrk]
#7765027 - 12/16/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because if your technique is sterile, there is no need to do anything more, as everything is sterile.
Nearly sterile isn't sterile at all.
And peroxide is used to combat contaminations, to combat cobweb once it has appeared.
But misting regularly with peroxide is just submitting the mycelium to stress unnecessarily, weakening it and making it more vulnerable to actual contamination.
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Nibin]
#7767073 - 12/16/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah ok, but why all the: "Not use peroxide!!!", "We support the war against the peroxide" or "In peroxide we not trust"??...
I mean, ok, it will cause damage and stress to the mycelium, but also it will be useful... very useful.
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djcube
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: Vyrk]
#7767130 - 12/16/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, very useful to fight cobweb and clean your mouth.
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Re: H202 - stop using it in everything!!!! [Re: djcube]
#7767263 - 12/16/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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h202 got a big boost about 5 years ago when people starting saying that it killed cobweb. So everyone started using it in everything. People would put it in there agar, humidifires, perlite, mist bottles. I was never a big fan of it
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