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Cepheus
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Quantifying a hit.
#7761374 - 12/15/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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After reading chinacat's threads, and Dr. Albert Hoffmann's LSD: My problem child, I struggle to believe that anyone gets doses of acid, from clandestine sources that are stronger than 95mcg.
According to Chinacat's thread it would require 95% pure crystal in order to lay blotter of a potency of 95mcg. In My problem child, by Albert Hoffman, he says repeatedly throughout the book that doses of 150mcg upwards are strong.
Now, I guess some people will say that they saturate the solution of everclear to hold more acid. I really doubt this happens; its straight economics. If people wanted to sell acid with a potency of 150mcg they'd have to dissolve 1.5g of 100% LSD crystal in the same amount of everclear, which would drive the price of the acid up and be more expensive to the producers.
I just have a hard time believing all this quantification which appears to be pulled out of the users ass. If you can provide me with evidence otherwise I'll be impressed
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Cepheus
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Re: Quantifying a hit. [Re: Cepheus]
#7761379 - 12/15/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Quantifying a hit. [Re: Cepheus]
#7761394 - 12/15/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i've been saying this repeatedly for at least the past few years...
even if you look at the DEA's testing, and independent tests, the average dose is like 60-70ug. When people get a 100ug dose, they throw this number out, "it had to have been 180ug+!" no it didn't, you've just been eating 50-60ug doses your whole life!
granted, i think that there is some real quality L going around right now.. in the range of 75-100ug standard... and some *amazing* L, in the neighborhood of 125-150ug, too.. the average is still the same, ~60ug.
i still don't believe that there is any amount of L going around that is dosed over 150ug.. save for maybe a run or two of the hoffmans in the past year or so... but, that was just someone's gift to the world to celebrate the man's birthday. not common.
face it people... you're acid at average is about 1/2-3/4 of an actual 100ug hit.
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muistrue
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Re: Quantifying a hit. [Re: Cepheus]
#7761552 - 12/15/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Cepheus said: After reading chinacat's threads, and Dr. Albert Hoffmann's LSD: My problem child, I struggle to believe that anyone gets doses of acid, from clandestine sources that are stronger than 95mcg.
The way it's done around here is 1 gram off fluff crystal is diluted into 90 vials which have 100 drops each. Each of those drops should be a little more than 100ug.
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Helpme1
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Re: Quantifying a hit. [Re: muistrue]
#7761637 - 12/15/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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doses of 150 ug + are strong?
Obviously... 2 hits is as intense as hell.
Maybe we aren't getting 100 ug hits, but does it really matter when 2 hits will blow you away?
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Cepheus
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Re: Quantifying a hit. [Re: Helpme1]
#7764763 - 12/16/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It bothers me when people attempt quantify their hits (often not even close to their actual value).. with no factual evidence.. by going on word of mouth 
I guess most people don't realize exactly how potent LSD is. A 150microgram hit (1.5x10^-4g) is relatively strong dose, threshold effects can be felt with as little as 10-20mcg.. as yoschie said; most hits average out at about 60-70mcg.
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