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Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote.
    #7761284 - 12/15/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Here's an email I just wrote in response to somebody's PM.

I've kept it anonymous so he or she can decide to come bout of the woodwork or remain unnamed.

Perhaps one or two might like to read this, cannabis crusaders can bite me :smile:


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Hey XXXXXXXXXX!

I occasionally (like, once every few weeks) take a tiny bit of hashish, using about a gram in a whole year. Used in this moderation its without ill effects and it's entirely voluntary.

I used to be addicted to pot. People will fight me to no end in the forums if I say that but you and I know that pot addiction is a very real thing. Somehow, while it makes no sense at all to do it, you do end up smoking all those grams and your life and financial situation suffers because of it.

No one would be scraping the tar from their pipes and resmoke it, not unless they were DESPERATE to get high. It's more than just fun if you catch my drift.

Quote:

Are you glad you quit?




I'm VERY glad I quit. One of the best decisions in my life. In the five years that I smoke no pot to speak of, I feel better than I did when I smoked. More energy. More joy. Less tiredness. Less dullness. Better memory. Being more punctual with appointments. More motivation.

And, also important, the big sum of cash that I DIDN'T smoke in those five years didn't go up in smoke but turned into 24 carat gold and 999 silver, invested in my future instead of my past :rockon:

Take a pocket calculator and pen and paper. How much weed do you smoke on average per week? How much does that weed cost you on average? Multiply that by 260 weeks to see what not smoking saves you in the 5 years from now. Do that, it's VERY motivating to quit once you see your personal and very real number of dollars spent on pipe dreams.

And your lungs will give you a big hug for it too. Don't let the Harmless lobby fool you, smoking pot is HELL for your lungs and one day that may catch up on you.


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Cannabis has been causing me more problems than it's worth and I think it might be time to let it go.




Then quit! The first weeks may be hard, but for me personally I was astonished after a month or two that I didn't really miss it.

WTF, all that time under the influence, smoke inhaled, money spent and legal risks endured and yet two months later I didn't even miss it, life just took another direction and that was that.

I'm all for it, just say your goodbyes to the weed and move on. Its not a hard addiction to break for most, you just got to find use for the time you used to spend artificially satisfied, and find meaning for it. If you were a substantial potsmoker like I was, your brain will need six months or so before it will function as efficiently as it can without the herb holding it down.

I hope you'll give it a go, and break free of it.


Be Well,

WS


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Asante]
    #7761295 - 12/15/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

while i do smoke buds i think that anything that runs your life  is beyond recreation...and i don't buy buds though, grow my own :rastana:

:rolleyes:and as far as addiction goes ,i would hardly say the pot is anything more than psychologicaly addictive though,i have stopped on and off for jobs and after a week or 2 its over like you said.. but to each his own i suppose

  i know of all the substances around these days if my kid was going to use 1 i would hope it was pot ,not alcohol ,coke and anything else..the least harmful of all substances IMO


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7761306 - 12/15/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Would you agree that every addiction is psychological?


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Asante]
    #7761310 - 12/15/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

smoking pot is a way of life for a lot of people
just because you label it abuse doesn't make it abuse
the fact is I don't care about my future
and I don't care about money
pot is worth more than gold or silver


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: jmg5]
    #7761314 - 12/15/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

uh id rather have a bunch of gold to sell so i can buy a shitload of buds


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Atheist]
    #7761316 - 12/15/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah but I wouldn't stop smoking for five years to do it


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: jmg5]
    #7761318 - 12/15/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

IMO its just psychologically addicitive
I smoked pot for 5 years up until the day i got put under house arrest and then quit cold turkey for 6 months
sure it may have felt a little weird for a couple days but its nothing that a ciggarette cant take care of (which i may add is alot worse for your health/lungs than marijuana)
I guess some people are just more sensitive to the drugs withdrawl effects than me.
I really dont believe that pot is as bad of a drug as people make it out to be, its just as bad as the lortabs your get perscribed for your pain, or the ciggarettes you smoke, or even the rare steak that you eat.
But if one decides to quit smoking pot and believes that its doing something better for them than more power to ya


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Edited by budsmoke420 (12/15/07 10:15 AM)


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: lbtchnlgs]
    #7761320 - 12/15/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes but some  have physical addictions as well..ie getting sick from withdrawls.. you dont get sick when you quick smoking pot:lol:


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7761328 - 12/15/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's all in the mind fellas.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: budsmoke420]
    #7761339 - 12/15/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

smoking pot is a way of life for a lot of people
just because you label it abuse doesn't make it abuse





When you want to cut down or quit and have trouble doing that, it's been abuse, not recreation. Not all pot use is entirely voluntary.Everybody can quit when they want to they say, but they just like smoking it so much that theres hardly a day without it.

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IMO its just psychologically addicitive




But psychological addiction can be VERY hard to break. Getting dopesick off heroin is a nightmare beyond comprehension, but it's the psychological addiction that gets them back to heroin almost every time.

Pot has no terrible withdrawals like that, but if a large enough part of your life is based on pot (or playing Warcraft) then it can be a near impossible task to break free from it.


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It's all in the mind fellas.





So is schizophrenia. That something is "all in the mind" doesn't make it any less of a problem, instead it can be far more elusive.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7761340 - 12/15/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i recently started smoking again after a year and a half of probation

30$ (5 grams)of mids has kept me high 24/7 for a little over two weeks now and a i still have 2 1/2 joints sittin in the stash box.

when my bag runs out, i wont be in any hurry to get more. im in between semesters right now so i have the extra time to lounge around and toke. IM LOVING IT


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. *DELETED* [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7761345 - 12/15/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Chemy]
    #7761481 - 12/15/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I guess I'm different then other pot users because I have been using pot daily for 4 1/2 years and not that long ago I quit cold turkey for 3 weeks and was perfectly fine... All I said in my mind was I don't need to be high 24/7 all day everyday. If you do stuff and keep yourself occupied you wont think about it as much but if you just sit around the house all day dwelling on how good smoking right now would be then your not gonna get far.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #7761533 - 12/15/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

excellent post!


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #7761535 - 12/15/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ive been smoking all day everyday for 8 years and its really hard 2 cut down
i barely get high anymore and when i tell myself to stop for a few days to lower my tolerance i find it very difficult
but im turning 21 soon so ima try to substitute alcohol for weed
and since im a stoner at heart i doubt ill become an alcoholic
god i hope this worx >_<


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Asante]
    #7761549 - 12/15/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Right on. Although for me, quitting is only as hard as I believe it to be.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Coaster]
    #7761560 - 12/15/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
but im turning 21 soon so ima try to substitute alcohol for weed




don't do that bro you will give yourself brain damage

alcohol is no good at all

its poison in every way

anyway there was a time when i smoked every day for a while and when i quit i got lots of paranoia about nothing at all and my muscles shook for a month or so.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: lbtchnlgs]
    #7761633 - 12/15/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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lbtchnlgs said:
Would you agree that every addiction is psychological?




no, no i wouldn't


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: lbtchnlgs]
    #7761634 - 12/15/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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lbtchnlgs said:
Would you agree that every addiction is psychological?



:confused: So DT is in your head?


Wiccan: I wouldn't call it an addiction only because it's hard to quit. You can develop a habit that is hard to break, not because you get rewarded from the behavior but because you're afraid of change.

I'm not saying that you cant develop dependence to THC, that seems contra-intuitive, anything used in excess makes your brain function in an alternate way. Once you're used to that state you will definitely get some symptoms when you stop administration.
I am saying that the dependence is really minor.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7761675 - 12/15/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Weed addiction is real.

A lot of people aren't willing to admit it though.

Also just because saying "anything used in excess makes your brain function in a different way" doesnt make it an excuse for addiction. You ARE addicted.

That is such a lame thing to say "oh you can get addicted to anything, its not REALLY addictive". fuck yeh it is, i agree with the tc, you aren't gonna go suck a guys dick for a baggie (well maybe..), and you aren't gonna sell your house and all your shit, but you ARE gonna give up a lot of time, money and relationships in order to get high.

Now i'm not saying that herb is a bad thing, infact i think its GREAT, i love herb....but it comes at a price, a huge price, an ILLEGAL price.

I admit that I'm hella-addicted to it, even though i only smoked one time last week (and i haven't bought any in a couple weeks)...I usually think about getting high a couple times every hour. I'm always contemplating ways that im gonna go get some smoke, or how im gonna do it. Or some pipes or bongs or shit that i want, etc.

The only difference between weed and other (much) addictive drugs is that those drugs won't let you go, and weed will. Even (LEGAL) alcohol holds onto your soul with an insatiable grip, while weed will actually allow you to stop smoking with only mild ill effects.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761700 - 12/15/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

helpme u put it pretty well
i concur with ur whole post


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761714 - 12/15/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think we are using different definitions here..
I'm talking about clinical addiction: If you are clinically addicted to a substance you will try to get the substance as soon as the effects fade or as soon as you possibly can.

You are talking about addiction as something that is hard to quit doing or makes you feel bad when you aren't doing it. That is not a clinical addiction.

(I admit my description isn't the exact definition of a clinical addiction, there is a list of requirements that needs to be filled for something to qualify as addiction and the list is disputed. I disagree with several of the requirements.)


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761726 - 12/15/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I myself find it a bit stressful or straining to stop smoking pot. But I don't find myself craving it ever. Coffee on the other hand. I could kill for it when I'm withdrawing(as I have a physical and psychological addiction to it).


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7761729 - 12/15/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't mean to single your post out, but you don't know how many times people use the arguement "well you can even get addicted to chocolate, therefor, weed isnt addictive." in every day real life


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761748 - 12/15/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not using that argument because that isn't an argument. Chocolate contains caffeine and other xanthines, which are both psychologically and physiologically addictive.
THC does not activate the reward systems(at least not in the same direct sense) and does not trigger physical withdrawal symptoms. That is why I don't wish to call it addictive.
But: anything that makes you feel good or removes anxiety has some addiction potential as prolonged changes of signal substance levels changes the receptor expression in reward centers. Because of this Weed could be somewhat addictive. So is physical training and playing instruments.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761760 - 12/15/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm addicted to weed. This much is a simple fact, and I'd be a child to deny it.

However, I know that if I were to stop smoking weed today, the only difficulty would be in my mind. There is no "withdrawal," only clearheadedness. This is what "psychological addiction" means, and it's a whole different stack of cards than the addiction to hard drugs.

I continue to smoke though. It's ironic how the knowledge that it's more or less physically harmless makes it so much easier to abuse.

I agree with (some of) your points, WS, but I don't think I'll be quitting my habit very soon. The money thing does stick, but I love my reefer.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7761775 - 12/15/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

u do get withdrawls from weed
u cant eat u cant sleep
all u can think about is lighting up
ur head doesnt feel normal, ur body doesnt, nothing does


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Coaster]
    #7761783 - 12/15/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I went on a trip to Tennessee over the summer. Now know that I smoke every day, usually 3-5 times. But in TN I didn't get the chance to smoke at all for nine days. I'm not going to deny I wished I could light up pretty often, but I didn't have trouble sleeping or eating. I felt pretty ok most of the trip, it was overall quite fun, then when I got back home my tolerance was in the gutter. Good times.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7761789 - 12/15/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well good 4 u
ima go drink some kratom


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7761808 - 12/15/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Tchan909 said:
However, I know that if I were to stop smoking weed today, the only difficulty would be in my mind. There is no "withdrawal," only clearheadedness. This is what "psychological addiction" means, and it's a whole different stack of cards than the addiction to hard drugs.




No it is not. psychological addiction is a result of acquired dopamine insensitivity.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7761887 - 12/15/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The dope nowdays is really strong. Even though tolerance builds.

When one smokes weed it makes one feel numb and good.

That numb and good feeling is addictive.

That's all there is to it.

To break that one must have some drive to break it.

I smoked weed until my lungs had the 'chronic cough' and I coughed until I got migraines. I spent 800 bucks on KB a month. Yep, 120 every five days. All that said, I still miss the ease of anxiety. The flavor of KB. Trying different kinds. Hanging with stoners and sharing the buzz. I am addicted. I always will be. I am glad I cleaned up though because I can feel again. Also, living the 'herbed life' makes one out of touch and weird. I say it from the inside and from the outside.

Stoners I know simply cannot function without it. I hate to preach since it makes little difference, but saying weed isn't addictive is patent nonsense. Whole nations are addicted and that doesn't mean it's correct.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: eve69]
    #7761898 - 12/15/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hey eve preach all u want cuz it DOES make a difference
that nun is riding my dick off


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7761902 - 12/15/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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No it is not. psychological addiction is a result of acquired dopamine insensitivity.




How does that work?


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Coaster]
    #7761924 - 12/15/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have known people who were very dependent on pot to the point that it really interfered with their functioning. I used to work for a guy who ran a recording studio who would smoke like 3-6 bowls a day out of a three foot glass bong. He would always lose sight of things and then overcorrect and freak out whenever he ran out of weed. I ended up getting laid off because he never had any clients which I think he could have been much more proactive in finding.

I do think it can be addictive, in the sense that the more I smoke the more I want to. But the flip side is it isn't hard to stop and the less I smoke the less I want to. Lately I've averaged once every 2-3 months and a while back I quit smoking for a year and a half so I'm not just making this up. It isn't hard for me to moderate, but it may also be my personality. Sometimes I'm just not that interested in pot, and most often I just don't have the time.

On the other hand there are prohibition warriors who will claim that any defense of marijuana at all is a sign that you are addicted and defending your addiction. That is straight bullshit. I would argue most people who use pot are not addicted and plenty of people use it in an intelligent way that is not abuse. It certainly has it's benefits IF you acknowledge there are downsides as well.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Helpme1]
    #7761943 - 12/15/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is great. Stoners should read this. Whoever says weed ISN'T addictive is a stoner or biased 99 percent of the time.

EDIT: I am not saying it can't be used responsibly, I am saying it can easily lead to addiction


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    #7761954 - 12/15/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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No it is not. psychological addiction is a result of acquired dopamine insensitivity.




How does that work?




Supposedly all addictions operate on the dopamine rewards pathway. Pleasurable activities release dopamine in the so-called rewards center, which I believe is in the Thalumus. If you over-stimulate the reward center enough the neurons down regulate to compensate and you become more insensitive, requiring more stimulation to feel the same amount of pleasure.

This is just as true with sex, love, food, excercise and music as it is with pot, cocaine or speed. However, stimulants tend to release ALOT of dopamine so they are considered to have a stronger addiction potential.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7761968 - 12/15/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not to mention excessive music use won't lead you to a burnt out life...


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7761990 - 12/15/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I dunno, I used to be more addicted to video games than I am to pot now. Can that cause acquired dopamine insensitivity too?


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    #7762037 - 12/15/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty good post, but the addicting side of marijuana is very subjective from person to person, we all know it is simply not a hard drug to quit. ... compared to many other substances, hell coffee is probably harder to quit than weed.

However, its easy to get attached to it and like it as part of a routine. I have thought for a while the ideal routine would be smoking herb 1-2 a week, like on the weekends. I dont have the discipline to do that yet, nor do I really care. I dont smoke everyday, but do about 3-4 a week depending. After college its going to be either NO smoking or like once a week max.

I have "quit" before and didnt touch it except once in a 2 year period  then started up again about a year ago... I dont think this stuff is hard to drop... just gotta have a bit of will power I suppose :laugh:


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    #7762061 - 12/15/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. You're right on. That is exactly the thing I'm talking about. Playing video-games makes your brain release dopamine in the pleasure centers. The brain can regulate how strong your dose response to dopamine(or any signal substance) is. The tendency is to try to keep the response at your normal level.

Nucleus accumbens is believed to be one of the most important centers when it comes to addiction, this is mainly GABA output neurons but the input is mostly from dopamine. The system is very important for cocaine and amfetamine addiction, but also for opiate and caffeine addiction.

Video games affect the reward system much stronger than cannabis and is therefore more psychologically addicting.


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7762064 - 12/15/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

andrewss how come uve decided to dramatically smoke less after college
is it b/c u feel like u need 2 grow outta that phase?
or its just to much of a burden to smoke cuz u have more important things to do with ur new carreer as wut?


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    #7762108 - 12/15/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I believe it. I do have an addictive personality, and holy shit was I addicted to those video games. I still play 'em, but only from time to time, not HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS EVERY DAY like I used to.


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    #7762120 - 12/15/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah... In that case I'd say stay the fuck away from amphetamines and coke....


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Re: Quitting weed abuse - an email I just wrote. [Re: Nalim]
    #7762131 - 12/15/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I hate coke, and the amphetamines I've occasionally gotten mixed in with E tell me to keep the fuck away. I don't even want to deal with something that fucked-up.


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    #7762159 - 12/15/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's completely psychological/habitual for me.
If I'm on some sort of expedition that requires me to stay sober for days-weeks... I usually won't even think about pot or alcohol.
But put me at home with down time, a bong and a stash, and you better believe I'm gonna blaze it up.  :gethigh:


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