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knotty
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bulk bag ruined?
#7759985 - 12/14/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i filled 3 oven bags near full of coir/coffee/castings and pasturized in oven. since the bags were full i turned the temp to 300 to heat things up faster. when i checked one of the bags was near 200 and the other were around 160-170, so i know there ok. but is the one that was near 200 ruined for sure. as in i should deff. thow it away and not use it at all or what? thanks (and since i just cut my dreds knotty is not suiting anymore )
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MYSTIQUE
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: knotty]
#7760007 - 12/14/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can try it if ya want if you have extra lc and jut think of it as a bonus if it comes threw.
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: knotty]
#7760017 - 12/14/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This shows you what happens if you are not patient.
If the substrate has heated so much it might have sterilized instead of pasteurizing so the risk of contamination is increased manifold.
If you have spawn to waste I'd say go for it, if you don't, chuck it.
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Babo911
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7760107 - 12/14/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MYSTIQUE said: You can try it if ya want if you have extra lc and jut think of it as a bonus if it comes threw.
How would having an extra LC help?
You can not inoculate pasteurized substrate with liquid culture, you need a spawn such as rye or WBS to use as spawn
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: Babo911]
#7760180 - 12/14/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Babo911 said:
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MYSTIQUE said: You can try it if ya want if you have extra lc and jut think of it as a bonus if it comes threw.
How would having an extra LC help?
You can not inoculate pasteurized substrate with liquid culture, you need a spawn such as rye or WBS to use as spawn
Not true. Poo based filter patch bags are inoculated with LC all the time. Just do a search for invitro poo bags if you don't believe me.
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: Nibin]
#7760211 - 12/14/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nibin said:
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Babo911 said:
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MYSTIQUE said: You can try it if ya want if you have extra lc and jut think of it as a bonus if it comes threw.
How would having an extra LC help?
You can not inoculate pasteurized substrate with liquid culture, you need a spawn such as rye or WBS to use as spawn
Not true. Poo based filter patch bags are inoculated with LC all the time. Just do a search for invitro poo bags if you don't believe me.
I believe you have your facts a little off. When using bulk bags you are not directly inoculating the poo, you are inoculating a sterilized substrate w/ spawn mixed in or on top (the most popular are WBS and Rye)
Also that has no merit here since the person pasteurized the bulk mix.
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Re: bulk bag ruined? [Re: Babo911]
#7760279 - 12/14/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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He is worrying that he sterilized it as he heated it too much.
Also, while normally a (obviously sterilized, and LC does not contain enough mycelium to colonize the poo before contaminations take over) a poo substrate bag will be cut with grains and all sorts of goodies, straight poo bags also work. You do have to inject a lot of LC into them though.
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