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Type Of Paper For LSD
    #7758949 - 12/14/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

a vial is coming

and im supposed to get some

like 70$ worth

my dealer needs to put it on paper

i want none be wasted

what types of paper are generally used

would poster board work?


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7758955 - 12/14/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

blotter paper?
lol i believe that is a specific type lol


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7758958 - 12/14/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

does it have to be paper? sugar cubes and sweet tarts work great... If you need blotter, EBAY :smile:


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: danlennon3]
    #7758965 - 12/14/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

watercolor paper from your local big box store


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7758966 - 12/14/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no, no, no


you cant lay blotter with liquid. just put it on sweettarts.

blotter is layed with crystal and everclear the ratios used to make the liquid that the blotter is layed is different than the one used to make the liquid vials i believe


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sui]
    #7758984 - 12/14/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

why sweethearts

are there other candies that we could use

and i want to be able to store them and take them onto air plane preferably

but i definitely want to store them

if i were to use the candy idea

explain in more detail how


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7758989 - 12/14/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

drop single drop of liquid (or preferred dosage) on sweetart allow to soak into pores of such candy and voila! if you wanted to store alot youd be better off buyin some of the liquid from him and puttin it in your own vial...


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: ashfiken]
    #7758995 - 12/14/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

otherwise moderate temps and aluminum foil wrapping is the way to go


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: ashfiken]
    #7759003 - 12/14/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if i were to use the sweetheart idea would there be any danger of storing them all together and would the acid escape from the candy in any way?


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7759014 - 12/14/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

not if it is soaked in correctly... Ive been savin some sweet tarts for almost a year and its still good. and also store them in a dry, dark place


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: danlennon3]
    #7759039 - 12/14/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have these tiny cookie gingerbread men, would that work

like soaking it in their head

also, what do you use for vials when there isnt anything but a couple grocery stores around


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: danlennon3]
    #7759045 - 12/14/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ive dropped on smarties, sweet tarts, bottle caps, pez and even a blow pop..


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7759047 - 12/14/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)




just rinse it out good if you dont want menthol LSD.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7759055 - 12/14/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i wouldnt do the gingerbread man... the cookie might go stale after a week. stick with sugar cubes or sweet tarts. For a vial you can use an empty sweet breathe bottle


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: danlennon3]
    #7759107 - 12/14/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I got one of those brown medicinal eye dropper bottles.. Real nice..


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: danlennon3]
    #7759178 - 12/14/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what about altoids


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7759191 - 12/14/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i heard of people using altoids.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sui]
    #7759316 - 12/14/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I use ecstasy.. CANDYFLIP  :xtc:  :xtc:  :lsd:  :lsd:


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Dephect]
    #7759836 - 12/14/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

number 9 watercolor paper


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Silver Jay]
    #7759961 - 12/14/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Watercolor paper can work. It depends on how potent the liquid is.

Its kind of silly though.
You dont want to loose anything, and you will if you need to put a full drop on a piece of watercolor paper.

You just need a candy that will allow for some deep absorbtion.
sweet-tarts are pretty damn ideal.

I dont understand why someone who can even obtain a vial would want to lay it on paper.

If someone wants so many hits, the dealer can easily do that if he/she knows how much liquid is needed for the desired dose per hit.

To use paper is kinda silly.

You want a thick bit of candy to protect your lsd. Not a small piece of paper.

Watercolor paper might work "ok". I simply wouldnt fuck with that shit unless I was really determined to call my nice hits "blotter".
No reason to even attempt to use paper.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7759979 - 12/14/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

just 2 let u no when u get caught with blotters
they determine ur sentence based on weight not quantity of blots
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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760095 - 12/14/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thats funny.
I wouldnt recommend using paper at all in this situation.
Id use candy, because im not stupid enough to try to lay blotters with the average liquid out there these days.

As far as weight and getting busted, I dont think thats true at all.

The amount of lsd is quite relavent, not the candy or paper you use.

The weight of the hits wont hold up in court, even if its candy.

The laws are fucked, but thats just not true when it comes to a person who is about to go to jail and is actually doing their part by defending themselves.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760157 - 12/14/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

getting liquid would be a blessing...

But it might also suck....what if they are weak ass liquid hits?

you could end up dropping 5-10 drops on on a single candy to make a single "hit"

I don't know a ton about liquid but you have to trust your source on this one, it could be a extra potent godly super vial, and it could also just be a vial full of water and nothing else :frown:


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760186 - 12/14/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Thats funny.
I wouldnt recommend using paper at all in this situation.
Id use candy, because im not stupid enough to try to lay blotters with the average liquid out there these days.

As far as weight and getting busted, I dont think thats true at all.

The amount of lsd is quite relavent, not the candy or paper you use.

The weight of the hits wont hold up in court, even if its candy.

The laws are fucked, but thats just not true when it comes to a person who is about to go to jail and is actually doing their part by defending themselves.




Actually the sentencing commission determined that you take the carrier weight (blotter) multiply it by .4 and thats the number of "doses" you have which is then calculated into time you should serve. It's fucked but it's the way it is.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7760252 - 12/14/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

why are you trying to bring LSD on an airplane? Is it just so you can transport it cause they don't allow liquids on the plane, or is it because you want to dose on the plane? Cause dosing on the plane would be dumb as hell.

Do like everyone is suggesting, and put it on some sweet tarts. It's not that big of a decision.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760288 - 12/14/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Thats funny.
I wouldnt recommend using paper at all in this situation.
Id use candy, because im not stupid enough to try to lay blotters with the average liquid out there these days.

As far as weight and getting busted, I dont think thats true at all.

The amount of lsd is quite relavent, not the candy or paper you use.

The weight of the hits wont hold up in court, even if its candy.

The laws are fucked, but thats just not true when it comes to a person who is about to go to jail and is actually doing their part by defending themselves.




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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: wireless]
    #7760299 - 12/14/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The sentencing commision only has power as authorized by statute. The actual statute defines the weight of the LSD as the weight of the mixture or substance containing ad detectable amount of LSD. So add one drop of solution into Lake Michigain, you get the biggest LSD bust ever, as defined by the statute.

At least at one time, the sentencing commision was actually sane, and had different rules taking quantity of LSD into consideration, but they don't matter when they conflict with the law.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: johnm214]
    #7760333 - 12/14/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Similarly, in Chapman v. United States,67 the Court held that the
weight of the blotter paper or other medium in which doses of LSD
are stored should count in determining whether a defendant is subject
to a mandatory minimum sentence for “distributing more than one
gram of a ‘mixture or substance containing a detectable amount’” of
LSD.68 The Court found the phrase “mixture or substance” unambiguous
and rejected the dissent’s narrower interpretation even though
the holding led to seemingly illogical results.69

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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: johnm214]
    #7760350 - 12/14/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i've also read numerous court cases where the charge for possession of lsd was determined by the total weight of the substance and the carrier of the substance, whether it be blotter, gels, whatever.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: derx]
    #7760378 - 12/14/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

he Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 and the Sentencing
Guidelines require that the combined
weight of the LSD and its carrier medium be
used in calculating the total weight of the drug
for sentencing purposes
A. Sentences for LSD offenses are based on the
gross weight of the drug and its carrier
medium, not the net weight of the pure
drug
B. LSD-infused blotter paper constitutes "a
mixture or substance containing a detectable
amount" of LSD
C. Neither the rule of lenity nor the canon of
construing laws to avoid unconstitutionality
applies in this case
II. Congress acted rationally in including the
weight of LSD carrier mediums for sentencing
purposes
A. A convicted defendant does not have a "fundamental
right" to have the courts at sentencing
reassess the appropriate penalty for
his crime
B. Including the weight of an LSD carrier
medium does not violate the Due Process
Clause by making the defendant's sentence
hinge on an arbitrary factor
C. Including the weight of an LSD carrier
medium as part of the statutory "mixture
or substance" does not render the statute
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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760405 - 12/14/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well,

Thats more fucked up than I could ever have imagined.

Consider this a reality check for me.

I stand corrected.

Id fight that bitch of a "statute" in court.

Thats just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard, aside from afew grey areas in the book of corrupt US law.

Still if you were busted with 100 candies instead of 100 blotters, you cant tell me that you cant make waves when taken to court.

Thats a pretty slutty law, and thats a good example of why laws change because of court cases.

To fuck with the books means you have offset the structure of the law, and that happens from time to time.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760409 - 12/14/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

yageman said:
Well,

Thats more fucked up than I could ever have imagined.

Consider this a reality check for me.

I stand corrected.

Id fight that bitch of a "statute" in court.

Thats just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard, aside
from afew grey areas in the book of corrupt US law.

Still if you were busted with 100 candies instead of 100 blotters, you cant tell me that you cant make waves when taken to court.

Thats a pretty slutty law, and thats a good example of why laws change because of court cases.

To fuck with the books means you have offset the structure of the law, and that happens from time to time.




How are you going to fight it? The arbitraryness/ due process argument has merit, imo, as the law is insane in its applications, but the court has allready ruled on it. Seems like a done deal to me.

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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760411 - 12/14/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well yageman if u really think u can win in court
read this
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1995/1995_94_9088/argument/
it is indeed some1 who is fighting the courts with the same mind as u
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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760462 - 12/14/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what if you taped your blotter to a helium ballon?


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7760465 - 12/14/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no, it doesn't change the mass


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: johnm214]
    #7760468 - 12/14/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i was joking...:sad:


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760499 - 12/14/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ive never known of anyone who has been busted for lsd

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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760503 - 12/14/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I just think thats the dumbest shit ever, and I would do my best to win in court.

Weight doesnt mean anything and any lawyer can expose that truth to the judge and jury.

I dont care about what legal precedent came before.
You dealers may be the next ones who fuck up their system.

Thats shit just doesnt work, and if you get busted, then thats your only way out of the hell hole and the only way to set precedent.

Im just saying, someone is going to change that bullshit around.

The law aint all bullshit.

You cant be charged for selling candy.
The weight has nothing to do with it unless its all bullshit.

Myself and my lawyer would set precedent.
Unless "they" broke the well defined rules..

Logic rules, no matter how you cut it.

3 grams of lsd, will never equal 3 grams of paper in court unless you dont invest your time into defending against your own probable sentence dictated by a bunch of cheaters.

Even in the US, you cant cheat the people sometimes.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760517 - 12/14/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

u obviously didnt read the entire court hearing
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1995/1995_94_9088/argument/
it was in 1995 thats pretty recent to think u can change things
i read the whole thing and it shows u wont win lol
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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: Coaster]
    #7760561 - 12/14/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So you would prefer the judges do whatever is convieniant rather than what the law is? The precedent is not the issue so much as that it is inline with the reading of the law. The law is bullshit, but it is very clear. Drop a blotter paper in your bathtub you've got a mandatory minimum right there.

The only reasonable argument is the due process claim, but that was expressly rejected.


"Logic rules, no matter how you cut it."

So what is the logic in saying the law defines what you have as being subject to ten years in jail, minimum, and you saying that it doesn't? What is your argument, where is the logic?


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: johnm214]
    #7760615 - 12/14/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is just how shit gets done,

If you get busted with some candy laced with lsd, then you are an idiot if you do not use you time in court to fuck their stupid brains out and set a new precedent.

You cant be busted for an amount of lsd you didnt have.

Thats why you change the rules.
Yes, if this ever happened to me, that shit is possible and if you think you have no power in that situation, then you are just some dude who got busted.

Logic does rule the school when it comes to little drug busts.

You cant fake a gram of lsd and nobody can tell how much acid you had given the weight of the material.

You could get fucked, but im just saying that there is room to move.

You could have a pound of salt with lsd in it per gram.

You dont think that will effect the extreem nature of your sentence?


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #7760669 - 12/15/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The actual amount of dosage units is a perfectly reasonable thing to argue, and would likely be considered at sentancing. But when the law sets a mandatory term, you don't have much to say.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: johnm214]
    #7760700 - 12/15/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wow, weird.

I didnt offer a fucking script.

I was just saying.

If you get busted, do all you can becuae thats far beyond bullshit.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Type Of Paper For LSD [Re: yageman]
    #11166847 - 10/01/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Personally I would use sweetarts, and keep them out of 1.Light,2.Moisture & 3. Heat,,,That goes for L in any form.
If you do go with the candy, just becareful because of the weight law, as long as you only have a handful, and are smart it shouldnt be an issue
I've had candies more than a year old that held up just fine, cant say there wasnt any loss, but kept under the right conditions it will be minimal if at all
I've seen a spilt vile, and the only thing avliable to soak the puddle up was a saltine cracker. Pieces of that cracker were frying guys for weeks.
Also i had a visine bottle with only about 10-20 hits left, and was leaving a music fest, knew there was a road block right outside the venue, so put the hits evenly spaced as possible out on the opening of a little debbies ho-ho box. They soaked in very well(used the non-shiny part of the box) And quickly disappeared to the eye, had mark with a pen around about where each one was. Got home, cut them up, put in foil and they stayed well for months. 
Also I think blotter would be fine to drop a couple hits on, as long as it soaks it up. I mean there is a huge difference between laying sheets, and knowing you you dropped a hit on a square,, figure its the same as the candy. If you wanted to lay an entire sheet, and had a vile (100 drops to 100 paper hits, It would be different, unless you dropped a single on each piece of paper.)


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