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Ice House Shaman
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Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* **UPDATED**
#7758875 - 12/14/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took a walk out in the forrest today to see what was out there after all the extreme weather we have been having in SW WA. We had three days of + or -20 degree weather. Then we had the monster flood and then we had an inch or two of snow. I expected to see nothing. I was hoping to find a few truffles. Here are a few pics of what I did find.    
Does anyone out there know what these are below? I found them in the same general vicinity as the Chanterelles and the Horn of Plenty.
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Edited by Ice House Shaman (12/17/07 12:45 AM)
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OOooo black trumpets. Excellent..
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7759216 - 12/14/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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whoa what a nice found you got some really got edibles around there crataegus or black trumpet are excellent more that chanterrelles for me, the las specie you got there is and helvella specie. some helvella are crazy as that will give you the id in a while . all my best vibrations ...
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: cactu]
#7759248 - 12/14/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome man. Good job. Never had those black trumpets, they look pretty tasty!!!
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: landsnorkler]
#7759364 - 12/14/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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HOLY SHIT!, excellent finds man. For serious, if I was you I'd make a chanterelle pie or something hahaha. I'm so envious of y ou right now. Its hard to imagine all those delicious fruits so late in the season especially after that wave of coldness.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: snoot]
#7759557 - 12/14/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How about a Chanterelle pie with these!

LOL
Thats allot of pies!!
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nice trumpets!
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wow, nice find on the trumpets, I didn't even know those grew up here
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: spores]
#7761458 - 12/15/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
spores said: wow, nice find on the trumpets, I didn't even know those grew up here
Next time I promise some habitat pics. They grow up here in huge patches. I didnt even put a dent in the patch I got those from. You can only eat so many.
Anyone have any idea if there is a market for them?
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Wow, please tell us more about the habitat. I'm not finding much at all these days, but you've just motivated me to keep looking. Are those boxes of chanterelles from the same foray?
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: BoulderBoomer]
#7762038 - 12/15/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah .you bet you gotta post habitad pictures those helvella still got me looking for an id you , but i love that , otherwise here get boring so far so good this is the most close guees i got,helvella coriun next time if you found more open one specimen in two to see if the flesh is jelly like and the other structure if is helvella and the texture, http://www.mushroomexpert.com/helvella_corium.html but not quite.. another far out http://users.skynet.be/jjw.myco.mons/index.html http://users.skynet.be/jjw.myco.mons/index.html all my best vibrations..
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Your unknown looks like some kind of earth tongue, or something closely related.
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nice finds on the trumpets. 
whenever I have found them in abundance it was after a couple of cold snaps.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: BoulderBoomer]
#7762997 - 12/15/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Trumpets were found in the same habitat I found the Chanterrelles, 20 year old Douglas Fir tree farm SW WA. They were found growing out of the moss and in and amongst giant ferns. The parcels I find them growing on seem to have good drainage, and a fairly thick layer of organic substrate.
I will be out hunting again tomorrow and I will take some good habitat pics. I left a majority of the fruiting bodies behind, sooooo stay tuned for new pics.
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Here are the new habitat pics I promised. I picked a shit load today!
Enjoy!
   
By the way below are a couple pics of a shroom I am trying to get an ID for. Any one?

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excellent
every place I look says these are widely distributed but rare north of OR...
you over towards the coast or what?
I agree with cactu, your unknown is probably a Helvella...
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: spores]
#7768598 - 12/17/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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men i really interest to see what species of helvella it is , hope some one could help. i´m been looking and looking, and some times that shit go for years if i don´t know , ha ha . so please some one help ,if is so rare you could consider to send to a micologycal society close by , and dig one specimen don´t cut stem so we can see any other feuture as pseudorryza, color of micelium and base, also open one in two , to discard other genus, smell, haha
all my best vibration sorry if seem like i´m pushy but, i really want to know what that is, i´m almost sure is helvella but what ,
all my best vibrations,those black trumpets are the best.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: cactu]
#7768666 - 12/17/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Helvella is a good guess.
Here is the closest one I could find:
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Helvella_leucomelaena.html
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thank alan i guees mine are more closer bet, i pass that one fast please can you do some more work on this perhaps he can send you some material to see more close , in the deep .. all my best vibrations did you look at mi guees..}
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: cactu]
#7768836 - 12/17/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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holy shit, you got a nice haul there, im yet to find any really decent edibles, but ill keep looking next season.
actives arent hard to find near me though, so theres no point complaining! good vibes
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: spores]
#7769513 - 12/17/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm in SW WA in the foothills between the coast and I-5. I have been picking Chanterelles in this exact area for years and never once saw a single Trumpet.This year I am finding them all over.
Were they brought in with last years wind storm?
I considered a Helvella for the unknown but This mushie is not just a cup it has a thick stem about the thickness of a large index finger, then the cup like cap sits on the stem. The stem is a firm yet translucent black jelly like material. I have never seen anything like it before. I've been picking in this area many years.
I'm stumped. I dont believe its a Helvella, I have seen those before, this is different.
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where are use to the elastic fibros helvella with distintive cap , i know but some helvella have really crazy shape this is from mushroom expertSaddles: The Genus Helvella
[ Ascomycetes > Pezizales > Helvellaceae . . . ]
by Michael Kuo
The mushrooms in Helvella, sometimes called the "Elfin Saddles," have irregular caps that are smooth or "wavy" and are saddle-shaped, lobed, or cuplike. The caps are not brightly colored, and are usually white, cream, buff, brown, gray, black, or tan. Helvella species grow on the ground or on rotting wood. Most species fruit in summer and fall, but several can be found in the winter and spring in warm coastal areas. Not treated below; eventually the cuplike species of Helvella will be treated in a key to the cup fungi. See the pages for Helvella macropus, Helvella corium, Helvella acetabulum, and Helvella queletii.) Cup Fungi
from the cup fungi key that i could not find a good match i see this
This portion of the key is not yet developed. For a few commonly collected species, see Aleuria rhenana, Helvella macropus, Helvella corium, Helvella queletii, and Plectania nanfeldtii. this what i think is the most close picture  Helvella corium by Michael Kuo
Helvella corium is a small species, recognized by its cup-like to flat, jet black cap and its relatively smooth, blackish stem, which may develop shallow ribs in older specimens. It fruits in late spring or early summer. Apparently, it has a preference for sandy soil and areas of debris in northern North America. Edibility is not known for this species; I do not recommend it. Description: Ecology: Probably saprobic; growing in woods, in sandy soil, or in debris areas; late spring and early summer; apparently northern in distribution (documented from Idaho and Michigan; the illustrated mushrooms were collected in Canada). Cap: up to 4 cm; cup-shaped to nearly flat; upper surface dark black and smooth, or roughened near the center; under surface black, sometimes whitish at the margin, finely hairy (use a magnifying glass). Stem: 1-4 cm long; .2-15 mm thick; black above, sometimes grayish below; smooth or with shallow ribs when mature. Microscopic Features: Spores 17-20 x 10.5-12.5 µ; elliptical; smooth; with one oil droplet.
acordin to some pictures and the description since to fit and seem to be a not so coomond specie, look it about it a little to see if you find any relationsh i see and read and find many specially what said that in older specimen developend ribs , and fruting seasom , color , . of course if you send a specimen to some one with a microscope will know real fast do , is dificult to id mushrooms for a picture but i still in the battle , just kidding i only think i´m right , haha all my best vibrations.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: haymaker]
#7771448 - 12/17/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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how cold has it been around there? Do they have similar fruiting characteristics as regular common chanterelles?
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: cactu]
#7775693 - 12/18/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The mystery has been solved by Shroomery member Jeremy Davis. Jeremy suggested The unknown black cup fungi wasQuote:
Sarcosoma Latahense
Here are a few pics of Sarcosoma latahense found using a google search-
    Here are two of my pics-
 
No doubt , mystery solved. Thanks Jeremy
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Edited by Ice House Shaman (12/18/07 10:00 PM)
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Jeremy Davis is no dumbass, he is probably right.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: snoot]
#7775717 - 12/18/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its been consistantly in the low 50s by day and low40s high 30s by night. It has been pouring down rain now for two weeks. I have been finding the Black Trumpets in the exact same habitat as the Chanterelles, literally side by side. I think the Chanterelles are finished for the season, there are a few left but you can tell that they are on the way out. The Trumpets are still going strong. I found quite a few today in new patches.
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Looking at those pics and what I have been finding I am convinced he is.
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i love you , is ok to say that in a forum , next time open one speciemn and put to the fotos of jeremy davis , i love when i´m wrong i learn so much more so you say are jelly as that great.  all my best vibrations sorry i was in a island.
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Re: Winter Forrest Fungi Forray *PICS* [Re: haymaker]
#7779525 - 12/19/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice pics
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