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What is Ego death?
    #7758268 - 12/14/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I actually don't know anyone who regularly takes psychedelics, but from what I've read, there is the possibility of knowing oneself or even their spirituality. What exactly is meant by this? Is there something that you realize or see?

Also is this something that is better experienced than talked about?


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7758308 - 12/14/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Basically, everything about you is destroyed.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: archenemy]
    #7758315 - 12/14/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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archenemy said:
Basically, everything about you is destroyed.




This sounds somewhat negative, by destroy do you mean rebuilt? I'm already a nihilist anyway.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7758338 - 12/14/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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archenemy said:
Basically, everything about you is destroyed.




This sounds somewhat negative, by destroy do you mean rebuilt? I'm already a nihilist anyway.


You'll know what ego death is when it hits you in the face like a brick... Better off finding out for yourself because the explanation cannot truly be made with any words


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7758347 - 12/14/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

that is a very good question, and think its a great idea to discuss it.

so i looked it up...
2. Psychoanalysis. the part of the psychic apparatus that experiences and reacts to the outside world and thus mediates between the primitive drives of the id and the demands of the social and physical environment.


so my best explanation of 'ego death' induced by psychedelics is a state of completely losing touch with sober 'reality.' in my experience an intense trip (especially a first one) causes a sort of enlightening knowing by experience that reality at any given moment is primarily just from the combination of your limited senses and the chemicles (be it foreign or from the body) in your blood.

my first trip i found myself very fasinated with how every species has there own different senses and thus sees reality very different. (some day i'd like to make a sort of video game that allows the player to choose different animals and roam the virtual reality with the perception of the given animal)


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #7758348 - 12/14/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would think of it as this: Everything you thought you knew to be right, you now question and doubt, even actions in your own life. Ego loss has nothing to do with rebuilding, thats something you have to do separately once you realize your entire life has changed.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: SurReality]
    #7758351 - 12/14/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

that definition is for 'ego' btw


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: BrainChemistry]
    #7758368 - 12/14/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Is it possible to shed your ego over time with low doses? if so then that's what happened to me. I always thought it was a more dramatic experience induced by high doses. if it's just a drastic change in the way you think and perceive then it's not that big of a deal.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: SurReality]
    #7758401 - 12/14/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i didnt really understand that but it seemed pretty crazy like if it was a scary trip somthing bout loosing reaity of how u think, somthing like that could u explain more clearer


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7758414 - 12/14/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well you can't shed you ego permanetly, your ego is who you are - an ego death is a state of mind, the lasting part is having the experience under your belt. like a lose of virginity or learning to swim, it broadens your limitation and/or gives a new perspective.

people have the idea that an ego is bad, because of the word 'egocentric' which is selfishness. selfishness is bad, but self is needed.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: shroomials]
    #7758417 - 12/14/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

An ego is a control wielding agent. I think ego death can only be achieved in a level 5 psychedelic experience.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Grylls]
    #7758448 - 12/14/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think an ego death could be achieved without drugs, and would be much more real and meaningful- by means of meditation. i've heard meditation is actually considered potentially dangerous, but much safer than drugs obviously because if things get scary you can just stop at will.

i never really had the patience for meditating by find it and eastern philosophies pretty interesting (taoism, buddhism, and such)


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Grylls]
    #7758451 - 12/14/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think ego death can only be achieved in a level 5 psychedelic experience.




I don't think that fucking scale has anything to do with it.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: shroomials]
    #7758480 - 12/14/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i didnt really understand that but it seemed pretty crazy like if it was a scary trip somthing bout loosing reaity of how u think, somthing like that could u explain more clearer




i don't quite understand what you asking, but i've never had a bad trip (nothing as bad as anxiety attacks on weed) but things usually get difficult or scary(especially on shrooms) at some points during the trip. but if you feel you've lost touch with reality that would be an ego death, it just that not everyone handles this state well...


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    #7758637 - 12/14/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: soulcircus]
    #7758670 - 12/14/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've killed my ego a few times. Each time resulted in me exploading out of the top of my head and expanding infinately onto the world.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7758709 - 12/14/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

death is the wrong word. dissolution is more like it. with the proper dose and focus one can leave the confines of the body whrere the ego resides as a psychological survival mechanism. the ego illusion is what makes you feel separate from the rest of the universe. the ego is the illusion.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: dshroom]
    #7758763 - 12/14/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so is it ok to do shrooms man u guys are making me worried


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7758800 - 12/14/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if you have ANY doubts stay away from all drugs.


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Re: What is Ego death? [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7758841 - 12/14/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

imo its losing all touch with reality and sort of forgetting who you are, accompanied by a feeling of oneness with the universe.
maybe having no controll over whats happening in your head during the peak of an intense trip and general confusion about everything.
i can promise you (from experience) 18g dry will do it to ya.


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