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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: Muufokfok]
    #7758447 - 12/14/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

that guy should get a pat on the back and get the keep the money for out smarting the pigs. its not his fualt they wanted to buy over priced baking soda. always check your shit befor you buy


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: Muufokfok]
    #7759105 - 12/14/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

isn't buying drugs illegal? which means the cops did something even more illegal then that dude. but of course its ok for cops when they break the law.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: Groomies]
    #7759356 - 12/14/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He should be dead for selling 17grand worth of baking soda. He is lucky that it was to a pig. This idiot deserves no sympathy, just imagine if you just wasted 17 grand on fake drugs.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: fapjack]
    #7759372 - 12/14/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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He should be dead for selling 17grand worth of baking soda. He is lucky that it was to a pig. This idiot deserves no sympathy, just imagine if you just wasted 17 grand on fake drugs.




You know more than most on this forum, but your righteous attitude is really getting annoying.

Stealing 17 grand does not deserve death, nor 99 years.

This is a fraud case, imo, and should be prosecuted as such. There are ample provisions to criminally prosecute someone for high-value frauds like this without legislating "counterfit drug" offenses.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: johnm214]
    #7759546 - 12/14/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Drug deal setups are entrapment and should be illegal anyways.

I've always loved how the American government defines entrapment law as "tricking someone into breaking the law and them punishing them for it is illegal*"

* Except when we want to do it.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7759560 - 12/14/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Reminiscent of laws against violence, as well. Nobody is allowed to be violent*.

*Except the government and its goons.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: Muufokfok]
    #7759616 - 12/14/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He will probably be sentenced to the very minimum. I'm sure the judge isn't going to send him for 99 years.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: johnm214]
    #7759666 - 12/14/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Listen, if you sell someone 17 grand worth of fake drugs they have every right to murder you. Not only are you stealing $17,000, but you are stealing $17,000 from a drug dealer and you reap what you sow. I'm not saying the cops should have killed him, I'm saying if the cops weren't cops. This rule is pretty standard in the higher levels of the drug game, you rob someone for a lot of money and they catch you, you die. You snitch on someone and they catch you, you die. Not everyone implements them though, as a lot of people are pussies.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: fapjack]
    #7759828 - 12/14/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Oh shit that sucks pretty bad


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: fapjack]
    #7759848 - 12/14/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Listen, if you sell someone 17 grand worth of fake drugs they have every right to murder you. Not only are you stealing $17,000, but you are stealing $17,000 from a drug dealer and you reap what you sow. I'm not saying the cops should have killed him, I'm saying if the cops weren't cops. This rule is pretty standard in the higher levels of the drug game, you rob someone for a lot of money and they catch you, you die. You snitch on someone and they catch you, you die. Not everyone implements them though, as a lot of people are pussies.




Why is it okay for a drug buyer to kill, but not a cop?

I agree there is s different moral situation, as the cops have more readily available alternatives, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

Killing someone for a 17k fraud is wrong.

And what does it matter what the convention is in that segment of society? Perhpas gives the person fair warning, but that doesn't make it okay.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: johnm214]
    #7759991 - 12/14/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Steal $17,000 from me and watch what happens.

On another note, remember that the $17,000 dollars was not "stolen" from the cops, the cops gave it to him. Further, it's not the "cops'" money. It is tax money.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7760521 - 12/14/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Steal $17,000 from me and watch what happens.

On another note, remember that the $17,000 dollars was not "stolen" from the cops, the cops gave it to him. Further, it's not the "cops'" money. It is tax money.




they gave it to him for baking soda there for he didnt nothing wrong and that money is his. But the piggies feel like complete idiots so they wanna use there "powers" and fuck this guy


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7760614 - 12/14/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Steal $17,000 from me and watch what happens.

On another note, remember that the $17,000 dollars was not "stolen" from the cops, the cops gave it to him. Further, it's not the "cops'" money. It is tax money.




yeah, you're right, it wasn't really a theft, just fraud (though about the same thing)

But I really don't care what you'd do to someone who conned you for cash. I never said this guy was in the right, but this crap about he needs to die is bullshit.

On another note, I wonder if this guy was even capable of getting that much drugs. It appears he wasn't afraid they were police (or maybe he was ignorant enough to think giving them baking soda would mean he's okay), so why would he try to con them? I imagine he would have made enough money anyways, so either he was quite greedy or was not in the position to supply the police with their drug anyways- in which case its another low-level criminal enticed into crime by prohibition.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: johnm214]
    #7761355 - 12/15/07 10:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He was a moron obviously. Who the fuck would be dumb enough to buy 2 kilos of baking soda? Its not like it was lidocaine, or something that looks, compresses, and tastes just like coke. The police could make this bust everyday if they wanted to, thousands of stupid asshole that will gladly take your money and give you beat shit. Also, I am not really saying that someone that steals 17 grand deserves to die, but the drug game is a different business and you know this before you get into it. There are rules, if you don't want to worry about the consequences, don't sell drugs (or fake drugs).


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: fapjack]
    #7761779 - 12/15/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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He was a moron obviously. Who the fuck would be dumb enough to buy 2 kilos of baking soda? Its not like it was lidocaine, or something that looks, compresses, and tastes just like coke. The police could make this bust everyday if they wanted to, thousands of stupid asshole that will gladly take your money and give you beat shit. Also, I am not really saying that someone that steals 17 grand deserves to die, but the drug game is a different business and you know this before you get into it. There are rules, if you don't want to worry about the consequences, don't sell drugs (or fake drugs).




while i do agree with you to an extent about the "drug game" i.e. if certain drug dealers i kno spent that much on baking soda hed be dead for it. and i cant say if the same thing happend to me he wouldnt be either. but... i also have to point out that you are a COMPLETE FUCKING FOOLISH FUCK if you buy two keys and dont taste the shit before hand... everyone i know with or buying this much weight does this so... thats about the gist of it... really he should just go to jail for fraud as prreviously stated.


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: ashfiken]
    #7778556 - 12/19/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the cops and the criminal are both dumbasses
simply stated

the dumbass just got lucky
and the cops are just pricks


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: Muufokfok]
    #7780233 - 12/20/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How ridiculous. This is fraud, he didn't posses and deal in drugs, now did he? It proves again how sick the American system of justice is (now and then). But hey, we already knew that: http://www.stellaawards.com/2006.html
This one should be nominated!


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: veggie]
    #10889963 - 08/19/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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... he still gets charged with trafficking! "If you sell M&Ms as tablets to get high, if you sell baking soda as if it's cocaine or if you sell oregano as if it's marijuana, those charges are the same. You're presenting that substance as the illegal narcotic."





BUULLSHIT! u r wrong, u CAN sell fake drugs and not get charged


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: hihungry]
    #10890273 - 08/19/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

this is fucking ridiclous!!


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Re: Man faces 99 years for selling baking soda [LA] [Re: hihungry]
    #10890849 - 08/19/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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... he still gets charged with trafficking! "If you sell M&Ms as tablets to get high, if you sell baking soda as if it's cocaine or if you sell oregano as if it's marijuana, those charges are the same. You're presenting that substance as the illegal narcotic."





BUULLSHIT! u r wrong, u CAN sell fake drugs and not get charged




False.  I don't have time but I'm sure someone will come along and cite the appropriate law statutes.  You CAN and WILL get fucked up the ass by law enforcement for selling fake drugs as the real thing.  Why would you possibly think otherwise?  You think LEO gives a fuck if the shit you're selling is real or not?  The judge going to sympathize with you since the drugs were fake?  Get real man, this is the real world where you get charged for misrepresenting legal but fake substances as their illicit counterparts.


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