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fushock
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Wow do you see differently then I write. I said this Death anxiety seems to be behind most belief in any afterlife
And no I can't share my reason for believing in an afterlife because I do not believe in one.
Whoops, I must be in debating mode. Seeing arguments where there are none...
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Silversoul
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OrgoneConclusion said: Agnosticism is for wishy-washy pussies who cannot take a stand.
While atheism and theism are for people foolish enough to think they know anything.
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dirtworshipper
Sitting in the heart cave
Registered: 05/12/07
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OrgoneConclusion said:Jesus hated the luke-warm. (According to Luke.)
while I agree that Agnosticism is somewhat ironic, (would a true Agnostic even call him/her-self an Agnostic?) we all know that Jesus loves everyone and everything
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Icelander
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OrgoneConclusion said: Agnosticism is for wishy-washy pussies who cannot take a stand.
"Ooh, look at me, see how undecided and confused I am."
Fucking pathetic!
Jesus hated the luke-warm. (According to Luke.)
Not true. Put your face under my foot and you can see me take a stand.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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OrgoneConclusion
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UFC for seniors?
"I would kick you if not for my bad knee!"
"Come over here and I will gum you to death!"
"I would throttle you if not for my gnarled arthritic hands."
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Icelander
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I am not confused I am undecided. Not having evidence that can create a decision in the matter. What is so difficult for you to understand?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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dirtworshipper
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Icelander said:What is so difficult for you to understand?
I don't quite understand how one can be so undecided. Surely one couldn't straddle the fence all of the time. I can only imagine that would be difficult, to say the least.
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OrgoneConclusion
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So you could go either way?
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SampaJasli
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Re: Athiests. [Re: dorkus]
#7755621 - 12/13/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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dorkus said: Nirvana literally means non-burning. Desire fuels Samsara which means friction creates movement or life. So for many buddhists it is the exact opposite. They long for non-existence, but fear being reborn. Not saying this is an official buddhist belief or anything, but it seems too simplified to claim that people believe in an afterlife ONLY because they can't cope with the thought of not being.
just a small clarification the Buddha warned that longing for non-existence is just as bad as longing for existence. I've always had trouble with integrating that with the teaching of Nirvana.
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MushmanTheManic
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Silversoul said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Agnosticism is for wishy-washy pussies who cannot take a stand.
While atheism and theism are for people foolish enough to think they know anything.
That really depends on how you define atheism.
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wyldeman007
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Everyone believes that they have the "correct" religion, and that they may invest emotion/resolve in their belief system justly. In a few words they do have the correct beliefs; every last one of them. The only real truth anyone holds in regards to religion is that we are all agnostics. We all have opposing/supplementing beliefs that will through action of paradox, never be quantified while we're alive. Logically you may debunk a religious aspect but you can never truly 100% disprove it. Say what you want but you're undeniably an agnostic whether you like it or not.
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