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OfflineDarkMoon21
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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759043 - 12/14/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dr_gonz said:


:lol: ............... :smirk:




I love how your only arguement comes from either one sentence remarks that in no way actually prove or disprove your point, or they come directly from outside sources who follow the same stereotypes and assumptions as you do.
You should really form some opinions based on your own experience, and maybe use that to back yourself up, otherwise you kind of, sort of look like you've got your head up your ass.:shrug:


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    #7759052 - 12/14/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759069 - 12/14/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can relate.


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: Seuss]
    #7759131 - 12/14/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Seuss said:
> With our current technology, we aren't going to be populating anything except our Earth anytime soon,

We have already begun to populate earth orbit and have plans for both the moon and mars.  If by soon you mean twenty years, then yes, I agree with you.  If by soon you mean two hundred years, then no, I don't agree with you; I suspect we will be on both the moon and mars by then.... assuming we don't kill ourselves off first.




We are populating Earth's orbit with life....?    Like generations of humans....?
I do know about the planned moon mines planned for 2018-2020, but is that really "populating" when people would only have a reasonably short stay there....?
Mars, that is a long shot....    And I still question whether we will be there for a short exploration visit verses "populating" the planet....

But this is all based on the current technology paradigm too....
Someone could figure out a new way of space travel tomorrow,
and ways to overcome all of our humanly shortcomings with the deadliness of space....
But, all of this could also never come to fruition's as well....    :ohwell:


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759150 - 12/14/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I grew up in a HARDCORE christian household for the first 18 years of my life. I know more about the bible and most religions than most people. I had it FORCED down my throat and I also experienced firsthand how bible thumpers act behind closed doors.




Bible thumpers aren't your everyday christians though. I'm sorry for whatever "horrible past" you had, but your family and whatever circle they associate themselves with just isn't justification to classify the millions of christians around the world as holier than thou heaven-obsessed maniacs.
That's still only dealing with one part of the religion. If anything that takes away from your arguement as you've had long term bad experiences in one relatively isolated case.

Don't let your relative's ignorance taint your opinion.

Yes, my parents are christians too, but they aren't hardcore about it, neither are any (with exceptions of course) of the others that I've associated with in the past.


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: wyldeman007]
    #7759151 - 12/14/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm done using synonyms to repeat myself.. so either respect my opinion or don't.. now, on to other issues.




Explained very well, I totally understand where you are coming from now....    :thumbup:
Respect an idea/opinion that doesn't make sense to me for reasons stated, and you fail to clarify....?        :what:

I must be too close minded....!    :lol:


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: DarkMoon21]
    #7759164 - 12/14/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Right. Christianity preaches love and tolerance for all.
Just because people misinterpret or do not follow these teachings doesn't make Christianity a bad thing.

In fact, a lot young people who are Christians are starting to disassociate themselves with the term "Christian" and are adopting the term "Christ follower" for just these reasons. People can't seem to separate the beliefs of the few that have messed things up for Christianity from what it really is.


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: DarkMoon21]
    #7759213 - 12/14/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe I should have been more specific, because my father is Lutheran and I don't think he believes I'm going to hell. What I should have referred to was Catholicism, the most abundant form of Christianity.

I'm truly sorry to offend, but I'm filled with utter hatred towards people who act superior or super human. This is reaching outside the topic of religion so I'll stick to the point...If I decide to have kids then I'm not going to force or even insinuate my beliefs unto them. As a science child myself, I would be infuriated to have religion influence their education. If some scumbag with religious agendas thrust intelligent design down my kids throat, I would seriously consider homeschooling... lol

(Oh yeah, for sum 1... clarify something for me; explain to me why the point eludes you by miles and miles. I really sympathize with your pessimistic views but your antics are very amature. If I could clarify more I would probably say you suck at what you do. You know who you are and this is our last mutual interaction.)


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: wyldeman007]
    #7759295 - 12/14/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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wyldeman007 said:
(Oh yeah, for sum 1... clarify something for me; explain to me why the point eludes you by miles and miles. I really sympathize with your pessimistic views but your antics are very armature. If I could clarify more I would probably say you suck at what you do. You know who you are and this is our last mutual interaction.) 




You would say that "sum 1" sucks at what they do.....?    :smirk:
Actually, THIS will be our last mutual interaction....    :thumbup:

You can go on wondering if you are "Precious" or if you are "Worthless" for when the jury gets back on whether there is life out there....   
But since you have a bias towards there being life out there, thus making us "worthless" (in your words), good luck with that non-pessimism thing....    :smirk:

I believe life is precious, period....    :thumbup:  (Including "sum 1 else"....    :wink: )
It doesn't matter (to me) if there is other life out there or not, it has no bearing on life here, nor it's value....


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7759334 - 12/14/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone believes that they have the "correct" religion, and that they may invest emotion/resolve in their belief system justly. In a few words they do have the correct beliefs; every last one of them. The only real truth anyone holds in regards to religion is that we are all agnostics. We all have opposing/supplementing beliefs that will through action of paradox, never be quantified while we're alive. Logically you may debunk a religious aspect but you can never truly 100% disprove it. Say what you want but you're undeniably an agnostic whether you like it or not.


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    #7759338 - 12/14/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759374 - 12/14/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dr_gonz said:
fuck your god




I never said that I was monotheist, you must remember if in fact I'm polytheist the phrase ought to be "fuck your gods" (plural)

lol just kidding man

The secret in life is not to take anyone too seriously... even if you're looking in the mirror.


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759448 - 12/14/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dr_gonz said:
fuck your god



Are you aware that this forum is not OTD, and that it is intended for actual discussion of spiritual and philosophical concepts?


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    #7759459 - 12/14/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7759461 - 12/14/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759468 - 12/14/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dr_gonz said:
SO, back on topic people. PROVE TO ME THAT GOD IS REAL!



Just look at your avatar.


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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: wyldeman007]
    #7759477 - 12/14/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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wyldeman007 said:
Everyone believes that they have the "correct" religion, and that they may invest emotion/resolve in their belief system justly. In a few words they do have the correct beliefs; every last one of them. The only real truth anyone holds in regards to religion is that we are all agnostics. We all have opposing/supplementing beliefs that will through action of paradox, never be quantified while we're alive. Logically you may debunk a religious aspect but you can never truly 100% disprove it. Say what you want but you're undeniably an agnostic whether you like it or not.




No one can prove if God exists.


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    #7759481 - 12/14/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Christian universe + Christian Logic [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7759519 - 12/14/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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immaculate conception, FTW? prove that theory please.



Immaculate conception? Even if I believe in it, it's hard to prove who someone's father is without a DNA test. Find me some of Jesus's DNA and I'll see what I can do.


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    #7759540 - 12/14/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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