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Sitar
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Hi, I used to be a regular here years ago with a different name.
Anyway, after a few years of not growing mushrooms, I decided to get back into it and chose to get some of these substrate bags as an easy, quick way to get some crops going again.
Sporeworks did a great job at getting out my order quickly. However, the bags look awfully dry.
On March 24, I inoculated one bag with 7cc spore solution. Today, there's only a tiny bit of germination. Again, I think the whole thing looks way too dry, but hopefully these will work.
I'll keep everyone updated on how these bags work.
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Wronguy
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Re: felix [Re: Sitar]
#8214235 - 03/30/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The substrate is not as dry as it looks. I guarantee you that if you took a handful and squeezed it you'd get some water from it. The best substrates have moisture contained within the ingredients, not sitting at the bottom of the bag or showing signs of excessive condensation.
As far as the amount of germination is concerned, if you inoculated the bag into the rye patch, not on the surface, but into the rye patch, you will have a lot more growth than you can see. This is the reason why liquid cultures are the recommended source for inoculation. You have to allow the rye patch to colonize prior to mixing or you may end up slowing things down.
In the future, I highly recommend preparing a liquid culture and using it to inoculate your substrate.
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Sitar
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Re: felix [Re: Wronguy]
#8221133 - 03/31/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK, that first bag is looking great today. There's a significant amount of germination now. A second bag inoculated on the 28th already has some good germination as well, so it looks as though these bags may be a success.
I'm taking some pictures as things go along, so I may post those as I see fit and things progress.
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acommunistspy
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Re: felix *DELETED* [Re: Sitar]
#8221423 - 03/31/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sitar
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Well... It looks like these bags are all germinating and colonizing wonderfully. It appears as though some spores have actually germinated on the manure itself, so that's cool.
I'm disappointed that no one else has posted any real stories about using these so far, and certainly no pictures yet, so I guess I'll have to be the one to really tell the story of how well these bags work.
I will keep you all updated with how things turn out, and I'll provide more details about everything once there's something to really show.
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bmiles
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Re: felix [Re: Sitar]
#8231582 - 04/02/08 11:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The only story I have with these bags is that I got contam after two weeks.
I will order a few more in the future though, it is really a great idea and I think they will work out great if you do it right (which i thought I did.)
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Re: felix [Re: bmiles]
#8233031 - 04/03/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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what sort of contams did you get?
what temp are you all keeping your bags at?
what spores did you decide to go with?
are you introducing any sort of light?
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ApeBaboon
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have you mixed yet? how far along are you? how many bags?
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ApeBaboon
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does anyone keep their bags between 75 and 78 degrees?
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dill705
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I'm ordering mine tomorrow.
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bmiles
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I got some green mold.
I used equador.
Temperature was room temp, you are NOT supposed to incubate these bags.
Yes there was some indirect light from a window.
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Sitar
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Re: felix [Re: bmiles]
#8240208 - 04/04/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mixed the first bag last night, as it had at least 60% of the rye colonized already and it's already showing signs of recovery, so that's great.
A second bag inoculated on the 28th is ready to be mixed as well, although I will wait until tomorrow to do it.
Mine have been kept at around 72 to 75 degrees F. Everything seems to be coming along fine.
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thedudenj
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: oysterguy63]
#8249311 - 04/07/08 01:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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do shroomery members get a sporeworks discount?
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ApeBaboon
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: thedudenj]
#8249761 - 04/07/08 08:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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good question
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dill705
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: ApeBaboon]
#8250125 - 04/07/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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We should. All the positive talk we generate about that place, granted they deserve it, but I think there should be a discount if there isn't already.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end. -Icelander- I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW! ~dill705~
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: dill705]
#8250137 - 04/07/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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like............. 75% off
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thedudenj
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: ApeBaboon]
#8250154 - 04/07/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think we do have one still no reply eh
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Re: Sporeworks: New manure based Signature Substrate bags from Cultivating Concepts [Re: thedudenj]
#8250162 - 04/07/08 10:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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they are a busy co.
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