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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7760426 - 12/14/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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blkjkrabbit said: there are leaders to follow - alex jones leads the fight for me.
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LayYouIn
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that was your 666th post.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7760505 - 12/14/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lots of people care. Thing is, what are we to do about it? Really, what's the plan? What's your idea? Something along the lines of thousands of civilians with AKs? I know that seems to be Alex Jones' big plan.... If you're thinking the best course of action to take against the United States government is to use excessive force, buddy, you really need to rethink the situation. You're talking about taking on the evil fucking empire. It just simply isn't going to happen. Do you know many police officers are in New York City ALONE? And that's merely the police. You do know there's a war on terrorism going on right now, right?
I mean honestly, there's not a thing any of us sheep can do that's going to help anything. If a million American citizens go up against the empire guns-a-blazing, you can be sure it will only speed up the process of stripping us of our freedoms. Forced labor camps, anyone?
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7760524 - 12/14/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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blkjkrabbit said: that our government is swallowing up our freedoms, slowly fucking us into submission everyday, they're setting us up for enslavement.
what makes you feel this way?
personally, i think life in the states is pretty good. sure, people in other countries pay the price for my good living, but when it comes down to it, id rather be in my shoes. 
it's selfish but so are the animals.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7760818 - 12/15/07 01:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If America goes to hell so will Canada. You guys go down if we do.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: Blend]
#7760841 - 12/15/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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deadendeavor said: Lots of people care. Thing is, what are we to do about it? Really, what's the plan? What's your idea? Something along the lines of thousands of civilians with AKs? I know that seems to be Alex Jones' big plan.... If you're thinking the best course of action to take against the United States government is to use excessive force, buddy, you really need to rethink the situation. You're talking about taking on the evil fucking empire. It just simply isn't going to happen. Do you know many police officers are in New York City ALONE? And that's merely the police. You do know there's a war on terrorism going on right now, right?
I mean honestly, there's not a thing any of us sheep can do that's going to help anything. If a million American citizens go up against the empire guns-a-blazing, you can be sure it will only speed up the process of stripping us of our freedoms. Forced labor camps, anyone?
This is very well said.
I agree we all would love to do something about it but how effective would it be I mean all that would happen is alot of us die and nothing changes. Or if anything does it's for the worse b/c they just find excuses in the riot to make more rules. Thats the reason why ppl don't fight back I mean the govn't is in control and they sure as hell don't follow laws so whatever we are protected by in ammendments and shit doesn't apply to them...they don't care...they will rip ur life apart and make u wish u never second guessed them bout it and that's it no more life no nothing ur just destroyed.
I was babling a lil there forgive me.
-------------------- "How do we know whether the life of any creature has fulfilled its destiny? I have known the very old to die in bitterness and despair. I have seen young children die before their time but leave behind such a legacy of love and joy that grief for their passing was tempered by the knowledge that their brief lives had given much to others." "You have answered your own question,Tanis Half-Elven, far better than I could," the Forestmaster said gravely. "Say that that our lives are measured not by gain but by giving." -Dragonlance "Dragons of Autumn Twilight" If we lived in luxury we would grow soft. No human being truely knows their full capacity to love until they become a parent.
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I do love to listen to Noam Chomski. He explains things so well.
Noam Chomsky - The Political system in the USA.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: freddurgan]
#7760958 - 12/15/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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freddurgan said: I care but I have finals tomorrow =/
In the words of Eric Cartman "No time....no time..."
But for realzies I graduate on Saturday and I intend on absorbing as much useful information as I can on the inner workings of our country. I am utterly disillusioned by science and intend on putting my efforts elsewhere for the duration of my citizen life.
At the risk of making my views completely disregarded by all, I recommend everyone read Industrial Society and it's Future http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
and I recommend everyone watch Zeitgeist, but take it with a grain of salt http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/dloads.htm
and watch this long and slightly old but very important documentary called "The Money Makers" http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Documentary-History-of-the-Federal-Reserve-Must-See/482633a4caa6ff14eef59dc70c7c5b2a3b1665240bd6
Thanks for the links.
Did you mean "Money Masters"? If so it's all on goolge as well now http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936 Once I saw that I had to follow the other 2. Money Masters is a must see documentary.
I've started reading Industrial Society and it's future and am finding myself nodding as I go...
Thanks again and good luck with the finals...
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7760992 - 12/15/07 05:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it sound like you don't care all that much either...
you seem pretty passive yourself and have accepted your fate probably very similar to what your friends have done
it only took 4-5 posts maybe for you to give up...if your to unite and rise up against the fucking tyrants you need to learn a thing or 2 about perserverence...its when your at your weakest that your capable of your greatest strength
they have YOU EXACTLY where they want YOU...numb and discouraged and you've accepted your fate
if you truely want to overcome your corrupt government you better learn and learn fast that pain is NOT a bad thing...stop looking for all the easy answers in life and realize that good cannot exist without bad
ppl talk about stupid pointless shit probably because to think about/face reality is way too depressing anxiety provoking and human beings naturally avoid what makes us anxious
because anxiety(physical fear) causes us to go into the fight or flight response
what you need to do is change your flight attitude into fight
but thats just a humble canadians point of view ;P
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7761050 - 12/15/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I care and I'm actively pursuing the means to to something about it. I have already received my Bachelor's in Political Science and next year I'll be starting my Master's of Public Policy. When I graduate I am hoping to get a job in a watch dog group and eventually get into politics myself.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: Redstorm]
#7761076 - 12/15/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys are wound up, it's all about the younger generation replacing the old generation leaders positions. things just take time.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: moon_glue]
#7761128 - 12/15/07 08:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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moon_glue said: you guys are wound up, it's all about the younger generation replacing the old generation leaders positions. things just take time.
Each of us "turned on" folk need to have at least two children.
Out breed the motherfuckers.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7761193 - 12/15/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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or maybe its the exact opposite:
maybe the path to salvation is through peace
and that we all need to start focusing on the positives in our lives rather than the negatives
maybe its this negative pessimistic view you have(which is shared by you and your government officials and basically the rest of the world and its spreading fast) maybe its this way of thinking itself which is the culprit
if we all started to think more positively maybe the ignorance that money alone can make us happy would disolve...maybe if we realized that human beings need relationships with each other to feel whole and that true rest will only come when we become a collective force dedicated too furthering our species and improving our world/environment, seeking out drugs which actually help problems instead of making money, and helping each other as much as we can instead of self gratification
maybe self sacrifice of us all is the key
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#7761263 - 12/15/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you have to be pessimistic if you plan on surviving. The world is too big and i have too much shit to see before i die. I'll be damned if im gonna let some suits or bad weather keep me from experiencing. We're are going to see some amazing things over the next few years, all you can do is prepare your mind and body for what's about to happen.
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Re: does anyone care anymore? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
#7761296 - 12/15/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the country will collapse
and those who saw it coming will be prepared
either way im moving asia
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