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grod31
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Blue meani vs. Blue meani
#7751420 - 12/12/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So basicly what i was wondering is there any similarity in the cubensis version ( http://www.spores101.com/ca/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=20 ) and what i gather to be the original:Weraroa novea-zelandiae version found here http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Weraroa-novea-zelandiae--New-Zealand-Hallucinogenic-Pouch-Fungu-p-16341.html and if there is absolutely nothing that is similar about them(besides the obvious) the why the name.is it only advertising?
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Re: Blue meani vs. Blue meani [Re: grod31]
#7751721 - 12/12/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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There absolutely no similarity in these two species. Well except for the facts that they are both mushrooms, both bruise blue and both make you trip.
The pouch fungus is called "Blue Meanie" only locally and isn't known as it over here. There's actually another mushroom that's called "Blue Meanie", which is the Australian Panaeolus Cyanescens. Actually the Aussie Pan is the "true" "Blue Meanie", while the Ps. Cubensis "Blue Meanie" is just a Cubes strain, that was also called that way (probably 'cause it sounds cool). There has been lots of confusion about these two and in my opinion it's bullshit to call a Cube strain a name you actually know another mushroom of another species already carries.
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Re: Blue meani vs. Blue meani [Re: Fahkface]
#7751732 - 12/12/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fahkface said: There absolutely no similarity in these two species. Well except for the facts that they are both mushrooms, both bruise blue and both make you trip.
The pouch fungus is called "Blue Meanie" only locally and isn't known as it over here. There's actually another mushroom that's called "Blue Meanie", which is the Australian Panaeolus Cyanescens. Actually the Aussie Pan is the "true" "Blue Meanie", while the Ps. Cubensis "Blue Meanie" is just a Cubes strain, that was also called that way (probably 'cause it sounds cool). There has been lots of confusion about these two and in my opinion it's bullshit to call a Cube strain a name you actually know another mushroom of another species already carries.
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Re: Blue meani vs. Blue meani [Re: Fahkface]
#7753175 - 12/13/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fahkface is absolutely correct on all accounts. Common names often cause all sorts of confusion for just about any organism common enough to merit one.
The Blue Meanie name is especially unfortunate because it was unneccesarily attached to a strain of Psilocybe cubensis by an unreputable spore vendor. There are many cases of customers purchasing the Blue Meanie strain with the impression that it was Panaeolus cyanescens. It is especially tempting because it is the same lower price as other strains of P. cubensis instead of the typically higher price of strains of P. cyanescens. Buyer beware.
The Weraroa's common name is a case of local New Zealanders giving a descriptive name to their species that happens to be already used and likely inspired by Panaeolus cyanescens in Australia. This caused considerable confusion when reports of Blue Meanies periodically came out of New Zealand which doesn't have the correct climate to support Panaeolus cyanescens. It was only much later determined to be the unrelated Weraroa.
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