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Offlinejdhiv4
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Noob Question, probably CoNtAmInAtEd...look at pics..HELP!!
    #7751202 - 12/12/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hello, I am a first time poster here, but have been lurking and reading and trying to learn for a while now. I did a diligent search and I didn't find enough info.

I'm 2 weeks into my first ever attempt and all 5 of my jars (came as part of a kit, pre-sterilized) have developed green spots fairly well spread out. For a good part of the time there was kind of a nice doughy breadlike smell coming from the jars. I was careful in inoculation but I guess I just want to know:

A) What is the non-white stuff I got growing in there (see pics below) a LOT of pics!

B) Should I throw them out or just let 'em keep going and see if anything works out?

**Some of the pics make the color of the possible contiminant to look more grayish-blackish but they are all green.























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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: jdhiv4]
    #7751243 - 12/12/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its normal that the grow of the mycelium will be stopped if it touch the glass, so, try to release the cake from the glass without birthing the cake... Shake it, and see what happen.


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: Vyrk]
    #7751576 - 12/12/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, that looks like mold and/or yeast contamination. Toss them out. Bummer.
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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7751792 - 12/12/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well if it makes you feel any better, very nice job with the pictures, but hmm, you bought pre-sterilized huh. If I were you, find a spot in your yard, in a nearby forest, or wherever is suitable in your situation and bury your cakes. If you tend to them, they will suprise you, that is, if weather conditions are practical and nature serves its duty. I personally recently buried a few triched cakes and a casing and a couple of the cakes are actually covered back over with mycelium while one produced a small fruit. I grounded the holes I dug with vermiculite and some of them have h-poo. It hasn't been very warm here lately, but the humidity has been shocking for this time around. Give it a go or simply take RR's advice.


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7751945 - 12/12/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes good job on the pics. a littl eblury but better then most.
Now lets figure out what happened. They came sterilized but you inoculated them?
Assuming that they were made correctly it is either your fault or a dirty syringe.
By looking at the pics you sure didnt have any problems looking at the jars on a daily basis. here is the deal with pf cakes/jars. They have a verm layer that is supposed to keep the contams out. This verm layer depends on gravity to work. When they/you make a cake the verm layer is nice and solid. Once cooked the cake can shrink and this verm layer becomes loose. No tilting the jar baack and forth causes this vermiculite to roll back and forth also allowing contams to fall straight to the cake. traditional pf cakes witrh verm layers need to be kept upright. If you must look at them then you must not tilt or flip them over. All this movement causes the air movement inside and sucks in contams.

better luck next time


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: tahoe]
    #7752497 - 12/13/07 03:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to guess somehow my fault, but do I understand you correctly when you said the pf cakes/jars should or should-not be moved around? If NOT, then the fact that they had to be shipped to me, were they likely to have been banged around upsetting the vermiculite layer on top that is supposed to keep out contam's? I didn't disturb them after inoculation and got the needle red hot before injecting each jar. I kind of thought my mistake may've been putting too much inoculate in each jar. OH, and I did use two different strains and in ONE of the jars used a mixture of both of 'em.


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7752503 - 12/13/07 03:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I CAN re-use the Ball-jars and lids though right? so long as I sterilize them before the next use? OR should I just buy more pre-sterilized jars? Maybe they get upset and mixed up too much during shipping as one reply suggested (?) below? I don't have a pressure cooker so does anyone actually like the boiling method?
Thanks!


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: jdhiv4]
    #7754954 - 12/13/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah you can reuse them. The sooner you dump out the old stuff the better. They only get more messy each day.

Just wash them wiht soap and water and when you pc them with the new substrate in them that will kill anything else left in there.

Who supplied your syringe??? Spores101 has been sending out some very dirty syringes in the past few weeks


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: tahoe]
    #7775117 - 12/18/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Cool, thanks for the advice......I have yet to throw them out but will do soon. I think I DID get my spore syringes from Spores 101, but I"m not sure...........I gotta get a pressure cooker before I reattempt.........too bad I was hoping to really experience a NEW year in the next week or so. Thanks!


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Re: Noob Question, probably Contaminated...look at pics..HELP!! [Re: jdhiv4]
    #7775376 - 12/18/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeh man too bad def contamd also when i get i get contams i do reuse the jars although i fill a tote with some bleach water and scrub em good before i wash with soap and water. o yeh and try to find an enclosed area out of the way or wut ever u think will work for u when u empty them just to help keep things contam free.


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