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Athiests.
    #7750111 - 12/12/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Whats up everyone.

I met this girl a few weeks ago and began talking to her, getting to know her a little better. We began talking about religion and she said she doesnt believe in god or anything. doesnt believe in any form of satan, and thinks nothing really happens when/after we die.

i insisted that there must be something she believes in and she said no.

she was brought up that way i guess, but i dont believe anyone can really go through life not believing in anything.

what do you guys think about people like her?


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750115 - 12/12/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That she's honest.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750117 - 12/12/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i insisted that there must be something




Stubborness is evidence of God and life-after-death? :confused:


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Re: Athiests. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7750123 - 12/12/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I thought you knew that by now. :sad:


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Re: Athiests. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7750131 - 12/12/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well yeah, i figured that. but i kind of felt like she was a little close minded in that sense. like she hasnt had any significant life,changing experiences or anything that might suggest there is a higher power involved.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750137 - 12/12/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

experiences don't suggest things to us, it is only humans who suggest things to themselves and others

could you imagine if you were watching TV and not only did you have the commercials suggesting you to buy toothpaste, but the experience itself of watching the commercial was telling you to buy toothpaste? that experience of having that experience would then suggest that you buy toothpaste, and on and on.. maybe that's how we construct reality, we interpret our experiences as conforming to a certain belief structure and it becomes an infinite affirmation


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750140 - 12/12/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

people like her are RIGHT

and its ATHEISTS not ATHIESTS


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750151 - 12/12/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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iwasaClown said:
well yeah, i figured that. but i kind of felt like she was a little close minded in that sense. like she hasnt had any significant life,changing experiences or anything that might suggest there is a higher power involved.




Yeah, it is possible that she had such experiences.
Now tell me, isn't there a leap of logic from that to believing that because of those experiences there's a god?


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750156 - 12/12/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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We began talking about religion and she said she doesnt believe in god or anything. doesnt believe in any form of satan, and thinks nothing really happens when/after we die.



That is a belief. But other than not being honest with herself about having no beliefs, I don't see anything particularly wrong with her position. When it comes to the nature of reality, we're all just guessing. What bothers me is when people feel so sure of themselves that they feel entitled to put down any conflicting view of reality instead of giving it an honest examination.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750157 - 12/12/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Atheist said:
people like her are RIGHT

and its ATHEISTS not ATHIESTS




And how do you KNOW that atheists are right?


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750162 - 12/12/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

haha oh man. yeah i knew i probably spelled it the wrong way.

well, to each his own.

shes kind of youg, so maybe she doesnt know what she really believes in yet.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7750172 - 12/12/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

because i grew up catholic and WAS catholic for 18 years

the day i realized god didnt exist i felt so stupid for not seeing it earlier

its just a word, an idea. they took the idea of 'gods' and made 'God' the all mighty being

its a bunch of bullshit, none of them exist. thats why i KNOW atheists are right, even more than agnostics.

atheists SAY god does not exist because they know it is totally ridiculous


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750185 - 12/12/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Saying as a certainty that god doesn't exist is as ridiculous as saying that god exists.
There's no proof for any of those statements.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7750194 - 12/12/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Im not putting down or not reguarding anyone elses beliefs or ideas.

the conversation wasnt too in depth to begin with. i was just kind of doubting that she really doesnt believe in anything. i didnt get to it, but i wanted to ask her if she believed in love, or believed in herself.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7750197 - 12/12/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

do you believe in god? and if you do, which one?


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750202 - 12/12/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Read my post again.
Where exactly did I express myself in such a manner that made you understand that I believe in god(s)?


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750203 - 12/12/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i guess it also depends on what your own definition of god is.


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750234 - 12/12/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Atheist said:
its a bunch of bullshit, none of them exist. thats why i KNOW atheists are right, even more than agnostics.



Sounds like another true believer to me. :rolleyes:


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Re: Athiests. [Re: Atheist]
    #7750249 - 12/12/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Atheist said:
because i grew up catholic and WAS catholic for 18 years

the day i realized god didnt exist i felt so stupid for not seeing it earlier

its just a word, an idea. they took the idea of 'gods' and made 'God' the all mighty being

its a bunch of bullshit, none of them exist. thats why i KNOW atheists are right, even more than agnostics.

atheists SAY god does not exist because they know it is totally ridiculous




Who is this "they" you speak of that took the idea of "gods" (and which "gods"?) and made "God"??

I'm not saying you're wrong,
but I feel the way you're speaking as if you KNOW is.

Catholicism isn't something I'd trust though
just throwing that out there


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Re: Athiests. [Re: thoughts]
    #7750259 - 12/12/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what is so crazy about not believing in old Mythical Man in the Sky stories?  Atheism is the religion most backed by the evidence at hand, I'll have you know :wink:

If you really think it's that strange, just imagine a life in which you were not programmed or taught to believe in supernatural forces or entities, and that life ended with death.  Wouldn't it sound strange to you if someone talked to you about a God that came to Earth and multiplied fishes or cured the dead?  I don't mean to nitpick on Christianity, but the Bible is so obviously full of old wive's tales and stories that are credited to earlier civilizations and religions that I don't think anyone in their right mind would willingly accept the world view that is laid therein without the fear of hellfire to compel them.


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