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CARLOS BARRIOS was born into a Spanish family on El Altiplano, the highlands of Guatemala. His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle Island (North America). They are keepers of time,authorities on remarkable calendars that are ancient,elegant and relevant.
Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also became a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide,Eagle Clan.
Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos initiated an investigation into the different Mayan calendars. He studied with many teachers. He says his brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.
"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination... Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it,not others."
The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons,and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years. The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred. With the indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the day keepers who study the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans.That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly." In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz,Mexico.
When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.
In this manner was a new era initiated, an era they had anticipated through their calendars. The Maya termed the new era the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, land and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated. What began with the arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many people recall as Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of that date to make ceremony in sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the World of the Fifth Sun. From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, we have been in a time when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth.We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun.
This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal,global convergence of environmental destruction,social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. "It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21,2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy.
At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.
This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested.
"Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate." If the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level.
But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.
A Picture of the Road Ahead From his understanding of the Mayan tradition and the calendars, Mr. Barrios offered a picture of where we are at and what may lie on the road ahead: The date specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year 2012 does not mark the end of the world. Many outside people writing about the Mayan calendar sensationalize this date, but they do not know. The ones who know are the indigenous elders who are entrusted with keeping the tradition.
"Humanity will continue," he contends, "but in a different way. Material structures will change. From this we will have the opportunity to be more human."
We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions, are converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era is action. Many powerful souls have reincarnated in this era, with a lot of power. This is true on both sides, the light and the dark. High magic is at work on both sides.
Things will change, but it is up to the people how difficult or easy it is for the changes to come about. The economy now is a fiction. The first five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed ten years deeper into the transition phase by now, and many of the so-called sources of financial stability are in fact hollow.
The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for them. They could crash globally if we don't pay attention. If the banks crash ... then we will be forced to rely on the land and our skills. The monetary systems will be in chaos, and we must then rely on our direct relationship with the Earth for our food and shelter. The North and South Poles are both breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is going to rise. But at the same time land in the ocean,especially near Cuba, is also going to rise.
A CALL FOR FUSION
As he met with audiences in Santa Fe, Mr. Barrios told a story about the most recent Mayan New Year ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected Mam elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain cave, journeyed to Chichicastenango to speak with the people at the ceremony. The elder delivered a simple,direct message. He called for human beings to come together in support of life and light. Right now each person and group is going his or her own way. The elder of the mountains said there is hope if the people of the light can come together and unite in some way.
Reflecting on this, Mr. Barrios explained: "We live in a world of polarity: day and night, man and woman,positive and negative. Light and darkness need each other. They are a balance. Just now the dark side is very strong, and very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012."
"On the light side everyone thinks they are the most important, that their own understandings, or their group's understandings, are the key. There's adversity of cultures and opinions, so there is competition, diffusion, and no single focus."
As Mr. Barrios sees it, the dark side works to block fusion through denial and materialism. It also works to destroy those who are working with the light to get the Earth to a higher level. They like the energy of the old, declining Fourth World, the materialism. They do not want it to change. They do not want fusion. They want to stay at this level, and are afraid of the next level.
The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be destroyed or overpowered. It's too strong and clear for that, and that is the wrong strategy. The dark can only be transformed when confronted with simplicity and open-heartedness. This is what leads to fusion, a key concept for the World of the Fifth Sun.
Mr. Barrios said the emerging era of the Fifth Sun will call attention to a much-overlooked element. Whereas the four traditional elements of earth, air,fire and water have dominated various epochs in the past, there will be a fifth element to reckon with in the time of the Fifth Sun: ether. The dictionary defines ether as the rarefied element of the Heavens.
Ether is a medium. It permeates all space and transmits waves of energy in a wide range of frequencies, from cell phones to human auras. What is"ethereal" is related to the regions beyond earth: the heavens.
Ether the element of the Fifth Sun is celestial and lacking in material substance, but is no less real than wood, stone or flesh. "Within the context of ether there can be a fusion of the polarities," Mr.Barrios said. "No more darkness or light in the people, but an uplifted fusion. But right now the realm of darkness is not interested in this. They are organized to block it.
They seek to unbalance the Earth and its environment so we will be unready for the alignment in 2012. We need to work together for peace, and balance with the other side. We need to take care of the Earth that feeds and shelters us. We need to put our entire mind and heart into pursuing unity and fusion now, to confront the other side and preserve life."
TO BE READY FOR THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY
Mr. Barrios told his audiences in Santa Fe that we are at a critical moment of world history. "We are disturbed," he said. "We can't play anymore. Our planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action."
"Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason. Everyone who is here now has an important purpose.This is a hard, but a special time. We have the opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this moment in history."
Mr. Barrios offered a number of suggestions to help people walk in balance through the years ahead. "The prophesied changes are going to happen," he said "but our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild they are."
We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people to represent us who understand and who will take political action to respect the earth.
Meditation and spiritual practice are good, but also action. It's very important to be clear about who you are, and also about your relation to the Earth. Develop yourself according to your own tradition and the call of your heart. But remember to respect differences, and strive for unity. Eat wisely. A lot of food is corrupt in either subtle or gross ways. Pay attention to what you are taking into your body. Learn to preserve food, and to conserve energy.
Learn some good breathing techniques, so you have mastery of your breath.
Be clear. Follow a tradition with great roots. It is not important what tradition, your heart will tell you, but it must have great roots. We live in a world of energy. An important task at this time is to learn to sense or see the energy of everyone and everything:people, plants, animals. This becomes increasingly important as we draw close to the World of the Fifth Sun, for it is associated with the element ether - the realm where energy lives and weaves.
Go to the sacred places of the earth to pray for peace, and have respect for the Earth which gives us our food, clothing, and shelter. We need to reactivate the energy of these sacred places. That is our work.
One simple but effective prayer technique is to light a white or baby-blue colored candle. Think a moment in peace. Speak your intention to the flame and send the light of it on to the leaders who have the power to make war or peace.
WE HAVE WORK TO DO
According to Mr. Barrios this is a crucially important moment for humanity, and for earth. Each person is important. If you have incarnated into this era, you have spiritual work to do balancing the planet. He said the elders have opened the doors so that other races can come to the Mayan world to receive the tradition. The Maya have long appreciated and respected that there are other colors, other races,and other spiritual systems. "They know," he said,"that the destiny of the Mayan world is related to the destiny of the whole world."
"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity," Mr. Barrios advised before leaving Santa Fe. "Love, respect,tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It's not complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's encoded in your DNA. All you need is within you. Great teachers have said that from the beginning. Find your heart, and you will find your way."
Embedded music technically isn't allowed, but this is the first time it's been used fittingly. It wouldn't be such a bitch if it loaded at 50% instead of full volume.
At least this one fades in and gives me warning, outstanding post Shroomism.
I can't stand the peopel that speak of this time as "doomsday" and shit like that. Nothing is doomed. Earth is going to heal. We are going to heal, and rise up to higher dimensions of mind.
Like I say, there is no such thing as DOOMSDAY, there is only change. And now its time for change for the better!
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humans exist in a state of hyper-absurdity so a critical mass of gaping people going "wtf" every day causes immense change within a very short amount of time as we are now technologically and electrically linked to most of the world and a great hunk of the minds in the world.
this is why Bush is doing things so crazy, and almost every knows its crazy, and the CIA burns tapes.....
this will create a lot of WTFs
the STFs reach a crescendo and vibrations and policies change
i mean now we have Dick Johnson saying blah blah economy drug war pot flag burning lesbian homosexuals..... and then you have a community that can point out every flaw in his statement, so then
we change for the better, when before television was the word as true as the Bible, now a critical mass is learning it is just silly stories.....
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I believe almost all of it yes, except, that someone who rapes little children will be able to ascend to the same level as a person who runs a charity in africa.
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and were supposed to believe that you the elf son of the 11 brothers of nlknva;bkafg;rlfj?
Not trying to be an ass, but for all we know, your just messing with us :/
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Quote: OrgoneConclusion said: For some 500,000,000 people, 2012 IS the end of the world!
It was funnier when Veritas said it
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Yeah it is dude haven't you seen I Am Legend? It pretty much proves Will Smith will be the only man alive on December 22nd 2012.
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I love how people are saying that in 5 years we're going to transform to a higher form of energy vibration!!!
In 5 years.
99.99999999999% of the people on this planet don't even know what that means! and the .00000000000000001 that do are just as full of shit as the people who don't know.
No one knows ANYTHING of what will happen, not even the Mayan elders who inherited the calender.
A higher vibration, cosmic love?
How about alien visitation on a global scale, like another Will Smith movie, Independence Day, only this time, the aliens aren't here for war...
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And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon
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I did not get from this post that someone/thing/event is going to transform us into higher dimensions or awareness over night. What I took overall from this post is that we are going to have to do the work ourselves...unify and accept and learn and that at our source we are one, and to hurt another is only hurting yourself. What I got from this post is exactly what I have learnt from the spirits of mushrooms, acid, and dmt that we must stop arguing and come together with one vision of living in peace with and loving each other and the rest of mother earth. And I am fucking down with that! I don't want to have to weep feeling the victims pains of the global genocide that is going on anymore. Though I know I will shed many more tears, for I know we have many more troubles ahead. And it is posts and words like these that remind me that I am definately not alone in my level of empathy and they give me motivation to be strong on my path of helping others embrace light and love into their lives. So THANK YOU Shroomism for your loving support of humans spiritual awakening.
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also the 2012 date is innaccurate... its supposedly way further in the future than that.
the mayans abbreviated their calenders in a way the confused people for awhile. they've since found other calenders with the date completely written out, which of course changes the prediction for whats supposed to happen in 2012
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if there is going to be a change. i cant fucking wait. the world needs to change.
i tend to think that this change is going to be a violent one however. i think we will have many global catastophies all within a short period of time. possibly due to a polar flip. its happened numerous times in our planets history, and we all know history repeats itself.
if i do not die during the calamities, ill be ready. mentally and physically.
I've been thinking of doing wilderness survival training.. but if nothing happens as far as a pole shift is concerned, I will be better suited to live in the woods - which would be awesome.
Quote: WScottsdale said: I've been thinking of doing wilderness survival training.. but if nothing happens as far as a pole shift is concerned, I will be better suited to live in the woods - which would be awesome.
do it. its worth it. ive been training for years. ive always been an avid camper, and even before i started learning about the possibilities of calamity and economy breakdown and whatever other crap there is out there to scare the hell out of you, i always thought it would be kickass to know survival skills. it can apply in many cases, not just earth changing cases.
i figure its time and money well spent. if i never need these skills, all the better. if i do, im well prepared. if all i have is a knife, im golden. if i dont have a knife, i can still live decently. also, if i ever get tired of humanity and society, ill just go live in the woods.
The end to the world won't happen on Dec 21 2012. Instead our sun will simply be crossing the galactic equator, signifying the end of the mayan long count calendar (unless, as someone stated that already happened in 1998). We are only going to be reaching the end of a recorded cycle, just as 12:00 midnight means nothing more than the end of the day... And at the end of every day a new day begins.
I would like to invite anyone who does in fact believe that the world will end on 12/21/2012 to transfer all of their assets to me on 12/20/2012. You won't be needing them anyway, eh.
Quote: Ziggen said: I would like to invite anyone who does in fact believe that the world will end on 12/21/2012 to transfer all of their assets to me on 12/20/2012. You won't be needing them anyway, eh.
Quote: Visionary Tools said: I hope there's an axial shift, so that the sahara ends up as the north or south pole, and that antartica heats up and clears up.
I bet there is some fascinating archaeology waiting under all that ice.
except if anything our world and society are moving ever more quickly towards greater and greater materialistic aims, not away from it. nice piece of fiction though
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The earth will not actually be aligned with the center of the universe in 2012.
According to Starry Night, the Winter Solstice crossed the Galactic equater in 1998.
I didnt notice anything remarkable. Stupid mayans were off by 14 years.
It's cool to see someone else using Starry Night.
But the Winter Solstice crossing the Galactic Equator is not what the Mayans were marking.
They were marking the Sun's crossing of the Winter Solstice point precisely at SUNRISE on 12.21 as viewed from South America, which only occurs every 25,800 years, and will next occur at Sunrise on 12.21.2012.
according to zacharia sitchin, he transcribed sumerian tablets that say creatures named the annunaki (lizard type beings) that live on nibiru (a planet with an elliptical orbit that takes 3600 years to complete a revolution and is about 3 times larger than earth) what astronomers today call 'planet x', the tablets tell the story that today's bibles are based on about these creatures genetically engineering us (humans) (and this is consistant with sciences lack of evidence linking old human like skeletons ((like lucy)) to modern humans), and they engineered us for the purpose of mining for gold, because these beings needed powdered gold in their atmosphere to retain the sun's energy and temperature. all this is also consistant with the mayan prophecies of december 21st 2012 being the return of quetzcoatl, the flying serpant god.... u see, these creatures, are literally our creators...and so, all these alien and end of the world movies that have been coming out in regular frequency and seen by large numbers of people are ways to get the masses used to the idea, so when the planet passes between earth and the sun, there pre-warned. They'll all be living out the nightmare of this planet's (nibiru) gravitational influence on our planet (i.e massive earth quakes, storms, ash layden skies, the works)...while the rich and elite flee to there already built underground cities as the surface fries.
chuckle all you want. zechariah sitchin is onto something. and i think his research has some of the most feasible options of our past to date.
although stonedphilosophr i think youve mistaken sitchins research with other less credible people. in sitchins eyes the annunaki were never "lizard-esque" people. they were very much like us, since they genetically engineered us from their genes and the genes of more primitive life on earth.
youre pretty close though.
people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.
people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.
Oh, I'll do more than chuckle. I'll:
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people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.
Oh, I'll do more than chuckle. I'll:
read his books first. then you can if you still dont believe it.
oops, not revolution...u know wut i meant...so sue me if i dont know SOME things...thats wut life and communication are partly about, learning..
go to wiki and read the short entry about zacharia sitchin
i dont whole heartedly believe every word zacharia or others like him utter...but i will say that there IS solid evidence of the existence of technology way ahead of ours...i mean, ufo's have been carved out in ancient civilisational art...our own bible even has descriptions of "gods" of beings...of GIANTS...
and all these UFOlogists that have mysteriously disappeared and died because they were exposing serious and highly classified projects and operations. there's something to that. the main thing is brainwashing yourself and exposing yourself over and over again to the answers u've found from researching all that u wonder about..
but, the ice is melting faster then they thought it was...and our planet is fuking up because of all the pollution and nasty shit we exposed it to....expecially the cutting of almost 75 % of the old growth trees in the major forests of earth...how are we supposed to breathe?! so on that front, i think THATS wut really matters...all of us have to convert to harmonic technologies and use industrial hemp for a shit load of stuff...but, it might be too late, because we've been dumping shit onto/into the earth for almost 2 centuries, on a massive scale...so maybe we're already fucked, and these times are wut nastradamus and edward cayce and hopi prophecies and every other one under our sun were talking about, warning us....of course...we didn't consider the prophesies...we just kept trucking ahead at full throttle...and we expect for the reaction to all this toxic activity not to be severe and INSANE?...i mean, we got katrina, melting global climate cooling ice bodies (ice caps), hundreds of species that are now extinct, hardly any fresh water left, dirty ass air, and on top of that, some filthy rich eugenic nazi white supremisists killing off the third world (and unpure and unacceptable people {minorities,gays, druggies}with biological agents (HIV in Africa, SARS and bird flu in Asia, cancer and tumors in america from microwave radiation (from microwaves and cell phone) [on a side note, Russia banned the microwave about 15 years ago] and extremely low quality foods...
woah, wut a rant..anyway, these are extreme times were going through now, no doubt about that...and there are far out stories out there, and although pretty entertaining, i find it hard to try n make others beleive...cuz its like me trying to condense dozens and dozens of hours of reading and experiencing and researching into some moderately short message...like, i myself am already convinced, cuz i seeked out the answers to a lot of the questions i had about the world, our universe, and anything else in that respect. and i guess after all, it has to be our own selves that have to do the convincing...of course with the aid of other stimuli. but yeah, u have to brainwash urselves if uve already been so by television. defrag and deprogram with the educated and solitary to psuedo solitary use of entheogenic sacrements..thats a big reason psychedelics were made suddenly illegal, because they caused people to ask bigger questions, and to become more aware of their situation, which the slave masters can't have if they want to remain in their throwns and in control.....thats y there trying to clamp down on the internet now..but, after all, if we equip ourselves with the necesary knowledge and materials, then we will prevail....
the elite already have underground cities built, so when nibiru comes, or some comet, or anything else, the surface will fry, and die...and they will stay alive, waiting for the dust to settle, come out, and start over again with their everlasting program...after all, they have life extending technology....
thats wut we need to do, the entire planet, even if all this crap im saying isnt true, itd be a good insurance plan kinda thing to build a massive underground base, like, everything we have already, but underground. the major advantage to this is the benefit of being shielded from any spacial debree, comets, asteroids, planets, gamma rays, and other global-life-threatnening things..
Quote: StonedPhilosophr said: oops, not revolution...u know wut i meant...so sue me if i dont know SOME things...thats wut life and communication are partly about, learning..
go to wiki and read the short entry about zacharia sitchin
i dont whole heartedly believe every word zacharia or others like him utter...but i will say that there IS solid evidence of the existence of technology way ahead of ours...i mean, ufo's have been carved out in ancient civilisational art...our own bible even has descriptions of "gods" of beings...of GIANTS...
and all these UFOlogists that have mysteriously disappeared and died because they were exposing serious and highly classified projects and operations. there's something to that. the main thing is brainwashing yourself and exposing yourself over and over again to the answers u've found from researching all that u wonder about..
but, the ice is melting faster then they thought it was...and our planet is fuking up because of all the pollution and nasty shit we exposed it to....expecially the cutting of almost 75 % of the old growth trees in the major forests of earth...how are we supposed to breathe?! so on that front, i think THATS wut really matters...all of us have to convert to harmonic technologies and use industrial hemp for a shit load of stuff...but, it might be too late, because we've been dumping shit onto/into the earth for almost 2 centuries, on a massive scale...so maybe we're already fucked, and these times are wut nastradamus and edward cayce and hopi prophecies and every other one under our sun were talking about, warning us....of course...we didn't consider the prophesies...we just kept trucking ahead at full throttle...and we expect for the reaction to all this toxic activity not to be severe and INSANE?...i mean, we got katrina, melting global climate cooling ice bodies (ice caps), hundreds of species that are now extinct, hardly any fresh water left, dirty ass air, and on top of that, some filthy rich eugenic nazi white supremisists killing off the third world (and unpure and unacceptable people {minorities,gays, druggies}with biological agents (HIV in Africa, SARS and bird flu in Asia, cancer and tumors in america from microwave radiation (from microwaves and cell phone) [on a side note, Russia banned the microwave about 15 years ago] and extremely low quality foods...
woah, wut a rant..anyway, these are extreme times were going through now, no doubt about that...and there are far out stories out there, and although pretty entertaining, i find it hard to try n make others beleive...cuz its like me trying to condense dozens and dozens of hours of reading and experiencing and researching into some moderately short message...like, i myself am already convinced, cuz i seeked out the answers to a lot of the questions i had about the world, our universe, and anything else in that respect. and i guess after all, it has to be our own selves that have to do the convincing...of course with the aid of other stimuli. but yeah, u have to brainwash urselves if uve already been so by television. defrag and deprogram with the educated and solitary to psuedo solitary use of entheogenic sacrements..thats a big reason psychedelics were made suddenly illegal, because they caused people to ask bigger questions, and to become more aware of their situation, which the slave masters can't have if they want to remain in their throwns and in control.....thats y there trying to clamp down on the internet now..but, after all, if we equip ourselves with the necesary knowledge and materials, then we will prevail....
the elite already have underground cities built, so when nibiru comes, or some comet, or anything else, the surface will fry, and die...and they will stay alive, waiting for the dust to settle, come out, and start over again with their everlasting program...after all, they have life extending technology....
thats wut we need to do, the entire planet, even if all this crap im saying isnt true, itd be a good insurance plan kinda thing to build a massive underground base, like, everything we have already, but underground. the major advantage to this is the benefit of being shielded from any spacial debree, comets, asteroids, planets, gamma rays, and other global-life-threatnening things..
You do know that we're not destroying the planet, per se, right? We're only destorying the planet for oursleves. It's not a "save the planet" slogan that we should have, because the earth is billions of years old. I'm not worried about we humans destroying her, because she will destroy us long before we destroy her. It should be a "save ourselves" slogan.
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but isn't "she" just reacting to our semi-ignorant and highly destructive/toxic actions?....are u saying that wut humanity has done pollutantly and wrongfully to our biosphere is non-influencial to it? and that the world is ending just because its just fullfilling it's natural death? something like the mayan prophesy saying that the earth is transforming (dying) only to be reborn?
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Quote: StonedPhilosophr said: but isn't "she" just reacting to our semi-ignorant and highly destructive/toxic actions?....are u saying that wut humanity has done pollutantly and wrongfully to our biosphere is non-influencial to it? and that the world is ending just because its just fullfilling it's natural death? something like the mayan prophesy saying that the earth is transforming (dying) only to be reborn?
Well, if the earth is changing, then we're acting "influencially" on her, wouldn't you say?
And the earth is not dying, it's just recycling...the end of this age and the beginning of another. Who's to say the Mayans meant humanity when they talked about the changing of the ages?
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How about you summarize for me, ya know, show me what you're talking about, see if you can even talk about what you believe in? And I'll fill in my curiosity with the juicy details?
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Quote: Penguarky Tunguin said: How about you summarize for me, ya know, show me what you're talking about, see if you can even talk about what you believe in? And I'll fill in my curiosity with the juicy details?
summarize 10 books? most of which are over 300 pages? that would take forever. the man took 40 years of research and information to compile these books. a summary wouldnt do them any justice.
my summary and your juicy details wont make up for whats in the books. dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.
if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.
You could've summarized in the three paragraphs you just wrote right there.
And "read a fucking book"? I'm currently reading five right now, thanks. And one happens to be a book on mythology. Ever heard of mythology?
no, i really couldnt. i couldnt even summarize them in 10 paragraphs. maybe if i were a better writer.
whoa. FIVE. impressive. you know, you retain more information if you read them one at a time. but, i guess since youre so advanced, why not make it 6?
mythology? nope, never heard of it. i dropped out in 4th grade.
listen, i dont give a fuck what you read, how much you read, or how many you read at one time. all im saying is read the books before you deny it. otherwise, youre just as closed minded as most other people. give it a chance. then argue with me.
when and if ever you get around to reading them, youll find out about the roots of roman and greek mythology.
dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.
if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.
Jeeze lefty, please turn down the hostility a notch.
Personally, I currently suspect that there is some truth to Intervention Theory, but if you are going to try to point others to the evidence, you better get used to being laughed at.
Ziggen and PT, there is no laughing, taunting, mocking or attempts at discrediting allowed in this forum though, you have been warned.
dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.
if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.
Jeeze lefty, please turn down the hostility a notch.
Personally, I currently suspect that there is some truth to Intervention Theory, but if you are going to try to point others to the evidence, you better get used to being laughed at.
Ziggen and PT, there is no laughing, taunting, mocking or attempts at discrediting allowed in this forum though, you have been warned.
lol, sorry, sometimes i forget that emotion doesnt show well online. theres no hostility. thats just how i talk most of the time the only thing i see that could be seen as hostile there was "fucking" but.... i say fuck alot, so dont read into it too much.
i dont mind being laughed at, ive been telling people about his books and the such since i first got interested in them at age 10. being laughed at doesnt bother me, because i know how closed minded most people are. what DOES bother me, are the people who refuse to even look into it before screaming blasphemy. its nice to have an actual discussion/debate about something with someone who knows that the hell youre talking about, not having someone ridicule you simply because the idea is foreign to them. the government thinks pot is the antichrist, the church thought the idea of a solar centered planetary system was blasphemy, and the bush administration thought that iraq had WMD...... people are wrong, even when they have the majority of the population on their side.
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I am coming to see through myself that 2012 will not be this flattering single pointed event that will transform the entire world. Not that I really believed that it would, but you probably know how it is with deep profound mushroom peaks. Truth can just seem so within reach..
Anyways, I'm convinced that we're in a gradual transition, as a group consciousness, and I am also aware of possible catalysts which can instigate rapid change. Overall though I keep in mind that we are indeed shifting, in the same way that we live moment to moment, so is earth and its funny people living, shifting, in its own frame of time.
We've got the UFO deal, perhaps the most misunderstood meme of all. IMO, you've got to be open to its potential reality in the light of its memetic survival across time. Even if there's nothing at the door in the future, it'd be good reason to assume that it can be found somewhere in our ancient past. I myself have never encountered one before, but yet I choose to believe in it loosely. I think I'd be in a better mental position to accept the possibility of aliens visiting tomorrow rather than dismissing the model entirely and losing my fucking mind if the "big weirdness" ever does occur in my lifetime.
Tying this back to 2012, i guess what I'm saying is that a big change is basically inevitable. Even without a catalyst, such as a UFO, human beings are stuck in a rut right now by having reached global status. The days when worlds were apart are now over. Back then nation tribes were discovering continents and exploring the terrain. Now we've seen it all. We've all met each other. We've stood on every piece of land. What are we going to do now?
That's the underline of 2012 I think. We are being faced with the need for conservation. Resources are clearly finite whereas souls just keep on arriving. We know that our machines won't run forever, as much as we may want to ignore it.
But who's in control? It can certainly not be us, I mean, I myself am usually way too busy during the day to be in control of spaceship earth management. I'll let the others do that for me, I'll let them do it. Them.
That's who's in control and I vote for this as long as I spend money.
But I don't feel right with that at all!
I feel that
a group consciousness needs to form, an organization that can nullify the anti christ with light and love, a mystery group, that is part of society, yet also totally apart from it. A way with a value system, a paradigm, that redefines our attitudes about death and extraterrestrial contact. We should be happily prepared to welcome both, while in the meantime, being able to live our lives to the fullest and in harmony with natural earth, dancing to the music of the sun..
That's my personal vision at least. It's how I feel about THE BEGINNING OF THE END right this moment.
The chains weigh heavily in such a period as now, frustratingly so since now is the very time that we must cast off our burden and focus. Personally, I am taking simple steps.
Greet the sun as it rises, to extend the time we have. Begin the day by moving the body, then nourish it with food. Engage the mind in vigorous exercise, and also rest it. Marijuana helps if it has come to be a positive energy for you, otherwise steer clear. Meditation, along with the aid of technology such as brainwave entraining programs can also be of use. The presence of music must be enjoyed, but also its absence. If you are in a relationship, the key is to create mutual fulfillment and harmony. If this can be achieved, a relationship is no hindrance to personal refinement...
There are many tools, but lack of them has never been the problem. Choose a path and walk, that is all we can do for now...
I can't stand the people that speak of this time as "doomsday" and shit like that. Nothing is doomed. Earth is going to heal. We are going to heal, and rise up to higher dimensions of mind.
Like I say, there is no such thing as DOOMSDAY, there is only change. And now its time for change for the better!
But man and earth is a symbiotic relation ship. we benefit from the earth and its vast land,resources, water etc. and the earth benefits from us, such as farming, irrigation, etc. finding better ways to keep attributes of the earth alive longer, and improving their functions etc. what happens when one symbiotic creature harms the other? it may heal itself yes, but when its Ben scared, scraped, poked, burned over and over again. its not just going to heal itself again. when one symbiotic creature is taking more then what the other can heal. the creature who is doing the taken will eventually be considered a threat. like all creatures on earth a threat must be fixed or eliminated so that that creature can survive. whether "we"change or not, we as a whole have done too much damage to are mother, and she is pissed and wants us gone. and since are mother is so vast we are considered a disease or a bacteria, our goal is to survive even if it means we have to burrow deeper and kill our mother for that last second of life.
as for the OP, man, I greet you with love anyway, I am sick of people arguing, all the times bout this or that, whether one should read this book or that.. and so on... many people on this forum will agree on the "change" date of 2012, some others will not, they say no, its just a winter solace, other say its 2013.. and than a speculations on what will happen, like mass alien invasion, or planet x, annunaki, the greys, nuclear war, massive floods etc.
All i have to say to you all. It does not matter what will happen and when. Cuz we can not do nothing really to prevent or change this "revolution". It will happen. And it won't happen overnight. What is the scenario? It is unknown. It does not matter. So then what? What does matter?
Live your life in peace, in harmony with others in harmony with nature... give love, receive love... light light light.. If one does the opposite, he/she will benefit him self(perhaps) and our service to self, manipulating, "illuminated elite" society. But if one brings love and light, with all attendants... then we will benefit all.
I greet you all.
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Sitchin attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the "Annunaki" (or "Nephilim"), a race of aliens from a planet he calls Nibiru in the solar system. He asserts that Sumerian mythology reflects this view, though his speculations are entirely discounted by mainstream scientists, historians, and archaeologists, who see many problems with his translations of ancient texts and with his understanding of physics.
notice the part about his speculations being entirely discounted....
i know that debate was fairly old but i had to comment on it nonetheless. 2012 will come and go like any other year. but just incase i will have some DMT on hand for the sunrise!
I've read some Sitchin awhile back but am cynical towards it and I just want to be open to experience and not rely on book knowledge as much. How can anyone say with certainty what will or will not happen leading up to the end of 2012? I doubt anything will happen either but just the possiblilities give me a bit of hope for the human race because I do believe without a doubt that the way society is set up now cannot continue for an extended period of time. If that includes a raised collective consciousness of people understanding their connection the the earth and to each other and bringing about positive change then bring it on, the sooner the better.
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