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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Shroomism]
    #7808673 - 12/28/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

except if anything our world and society are moving ever more quickly towards greater and greater materialistic aims, not away from it. nice piece of fiction though


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: flow]
    #7809097 - 12/28/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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flow said:
Problem:

The earth will not actually be aligned with the center of the universe in 2012.

According to Starry Night, the Winter Solstice crossed the Galactic equater in 1998.

I didnt notice anything remarkable.
Stupid mayans were off by 14 years.




It's cool to see someone else using Starry Night.

But the Winter Solstice crossing the Galactic Equator is not what the Mayans were marking.

They were marking the Sun's crossing of the Winter Solstice point precisely at SUNRISE on 12.21 as viewed from South America,
which only occurs every 25,800 years, and will next occur at Sunrise on 12.21.2012.

This can be viewed using Starry Night... :sunny:


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Middleman]
    #7816063 - 12/31/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

according to zacharia sitchin, he transcribed sumerian tablets that say creatures named the annunaki (lizard type beings) that live on nibiru (a planet with an elliptical orbit that takes 3600 years to complete a revolution and is about 3 times larger than earth) what astronomers today call 'planet x', the tablets tell the story that today's bibles are based on about these creatures genetically engineering us (humans) (and this is consistant with sciences lack of evidence linking old human like skeletons ((like lucy)) to modern humans), and they engineered us for the purpose of mining for gold, because these beings needed powdered gold in their atmosphere to retain the sun's energy and temperature. all this is also consistant with the mayan prophecies of december 21st 2012 being the return of quetzcoatl, the flying serpant god.... u see, these creatures, are literally our creators...and so, all these alien and end of the world movies that have been coming out in regular frequency and seen by large numbers of people are ways to get the masses used to the idea, so when the planet passes between earth and the sun, there pre-warned. They'll all be living out the nightmare of this planet's (nibiru) gravitational influence on our planet (i.e massive earth quakes, storms, ash layden skies, the works)...while the rich and elite flee to there already built underground cities as the surface fries.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
    #7816083 - 12/31/07 06:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for posting that StonedPhilosophr. I needed a good chuckle.

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...that takes 3600 years to complete a revolution...




That's one long ass day.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Ziggen]
    #7817408 - 12/31/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

chuckle all you want. zechariah sitchin is onto something. and i think his research has some of the most feasible options of our past to date.

although stonedphilosophr i think youve mistaken sitchins research with other less credible people. in sitchins eyes the annunaki were never "lizard-esque" people. they were very much like us, since they genetically engineered us from their genes and the genes of more primitive life on earth.

youre pretty close though.

people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7817869 - 12/31/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.





Oh, I'll do more than chuckle.  I'll:

:rofl:


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7819763 - 01/01/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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people can "chuckle" all they want. however there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that aliens have been here long before us, and even created us.





Oh, I'll do more than chuckle.  I'll:

:rofl:




read his books first. then you can :rofl: if you still dont believe it.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7819819 - 01/01/08 11:55 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

How did I know you were going to say that?


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7821583 - 01/01/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

oops, not revolution...u know wut i meant...so sue me if i dont know SOME things...thats wut life and communication are partly about, learning..

go to wiki and read the short entry about zacharia sitchin

i dont whole heartedly believe every word zacharia or others like him utter...but i will say that there IS solid evidence of the existence of technology way ahead of ours...i mean, ufo's have been carved out in ancient civilisational art...our own bible even has descriptions of "gods" of beings...of GIANTS...

and all these UFOlogists that have mysteriously disappeared and died because they were exposing serious and highly classified projects and operations. there's something to that. the main thing is brainwashing yourself and exposing yourself over and over again to the answers u've found from researching all that u wonder about..


but, the ice is melting faster then they thought it was...and our planet is fuking up because of all the pollution and nasty shit we exposed it to....expecially the cutting of almost 75 % of the old growth trees in the major forests of earth...how are we supposed to breathe?! so on that front, i think THATS wut really matters...all of us have to convert to harmonic technologies and use industrial hemp for a shit load of stuff...but, it might be too late, because we've been dumping shit onto/into the earth for almost 2 centuries, on a massive scale...so maybe we're already fucked, and these times are wut nastradamus and edward cayce and hopi prophecies and every other one under our sun were talking about, warning us....of course...we didn't consider the prophesies...we just kept trucking ahead at full throttle...and we expect for the reaction to all this toxic activity not to be severe and INSANE?...i mean, we got katrina, melting global climate cooling ice bodies (ice caps), hundreds of species that are now extinct, hardly any fresh water left, dirty ass air, and on top of that, some filthy rich eugenic nazi white supremisists killing off the third world (and unpure and unacceptable people {minorities,gays, druggies}with biological agents (HIV in Africa, SARS and bird flu in Asia, cancer and tumors in america from microwave radiation (from microwaves and cell phone) [on a side note, Russia banned the microwave about 15 years ago] and extremely low quality foods...

woah, wut a rant..anyway, these are extreme times were going through now, no doubt about that...and there are far out stories out there, and although pretty entertaining, i find it hard to try n make others beleive...cuz its like me trying to condense dozens and dozens of hours of reading and experiencing and researching into some moderately short message...like, i myself am already convinced, cuz i seeked out the answers to a lot of the questions i had about the world, our universe, and anything else in that respect. and i guess after all, it has to be our own selves that have to do the convincing...of course with the aid of other stimuli. but yeah, u have to brainwash urselves if uve already been so by television. defrag and deprogram with the educated and solitary to psuedo solitary use of entheogenic sacrements..thats a big reason psychedelics were made suddenly illegal, because they caused people to ask bigger questions, and to become more aware of their situation, which the slave masters can't have if they want to remain in their throwns and in control.....thats y there trying to clamp down on the internet now..but, after all, if we equip ourselves with the necesary knowledge and materials, then we will prevail....

the elite already have underground cities built, so when nibiru comes, or some comet, or anything else, the surface will fry, and die...and they will stay alive, waiting for the dust to settle, come out, and start over again with their everlasting program...after all, they have life extending technology....


thats wut we need to do, the entire planet, even if all this crap im saying isnt true, itd be a good insurance plan kinda thing to build a massive underground base, like, everything we have already, but underground. the major advantage to this is the benefit of being shielded from any spacial debree, comets, asteroids, planets, gamma rays, and other global-life-threatnening things..



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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
    #7821954 - 01/01/08 10:39 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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oops, not revolution...u know wut i meant...so sue me if i dont know SOME things...thats wut life and communication are partly about, learning..

go to wiki and read the short entry about zacharia sitchin

i dont whole heartedly believe every word zacharia or others like him utter...but i will say that there IS solid evidence of the existence of technology way ahead of ours...i mean, ufo's have been carved out in ancient civilisational art...our own bible even has descriptions of "gods" of beings...of GIANTS...

and all these UFOlogists that have mysteriously disappeared and died because they were exposing serious and highly classified projects and operations. there's something to that. the main thing is brainwashing yourself and exposing yourself over and over again to the answers u've found from researching all that u wonder about..


but, the ice is melting faster then they thought it was...and our planet is fuking up because of all the pollution and nasty shit we exposed it to....expecially the cutting of almost 75 % of the old growth trees in the major forests of earth...how are we supposed to breathe?! so on that front, i think THATS wut really matters...all of us have to convert to harmonic technologies and use industrial hemp for a shit load of stuff...but, it might be too late, because we've been dumping shit onto/into the earth for almost 2 centuries, on a massive scale...so maybe we're already fucked, and these times are wut nastradamus and edward cayce and hopi prophecies and every other one under our sun were talking about, warning us....of course...we didn't consider the prophesies...we just kept trucking ahead at full throttle...and we expect for the reaction to all this toxic activity not to be severe and INSANE?...i mean, we got katrina, melting global climate cooling ice bodies (ice caps), hundreds of species that are now extinct, hardly any fresh water left, dirty ass air, and on top of that, some filthy rich eugenic nazi white supremisists killing off the third world (and unpure and unacceptable people {minorities,gays, druggies}with biological agents (HIV in Africa, SARS and bird flu in Asia, cancer and tumors in america from microwave radiation (from microwaves and cell phone) [on a side note, Russia banned the microwave about 15 years ago] and extremely low quality foods...

woah, wut a rant..anyway, these are extreme times were going through now, no doubt about that...and there are far out stories out there, and although pretty entertaining, i find it hard to try n make others beleive...cuz its like me trying to condense dozens and dozens of hours of reading and experiencing and researching into some moderately short message...like, i myself am already convinced, cuz i seeked out the answers to a lot of the questions i had about the world, our universe, and anything else in that respect. and i guess after all, it has to be our own selves that have to do the convincing...of course with the aid of other stimuli. but yeah, u have to brainwash urselves if uve already been so by television. defrag and deprogram with the educated and solitary to psuedo solitary use of entheogenic sacrements..thats a big reason psychedelics were made suddenly illegal, because they caused people to ask bigger questions, and to become more aware of their situation, which the slave masters can't have if they want to remain in their throwns and in control.....thats y there trying to clamp down on the internet now..but, after all, if we equip ourselves with the necesary knowledge and materials, then we will prevail....

the elite already have underground cities built, so when nibiru comes, or some comet, or anything else, the surface will fry, and die...and they will stay alive, waiting for the dust to settle, come out, and start over again with their everlasting program...after all, they have life extending technology....


thats wut we need to do, the entire planet, even if all this crap im saying isnt true, itd be a good insurance plan kinda thing to build a massive underground base, like, everything we have already, but underground. the major advantage to this is the benefit of being shielded from any spacial debree, comets, asteroids, planets, gamma rays, and other global-life-threatnening things..






You do know that we're not destroying the planet, per se, right? We're only destorying the planet for oursleves. It's not a "save the planet" slogan that we should have, because the earth is billions of years old. I'm not worried about we humans destroying her, because she will destroy us long before we destroy her. It should be a "save ourselves" slogan.

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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7822551 - 01/02/08 03:35 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

but isn't "she" just reacting to our semi-ignorant and highly destructive/toxic actions?....are u saying that wut humanity has done pollutantly and wrongfully to our biosphere is non-influencial to it? and that the world is ending just because its just fullfilling it's natural death? something like the mayan prophesy saying that the earth is transforming (dying) only to be reborn?


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
    #7822833 - 01/02/08 07:37 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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but isn't "she" just reacting to our semi-ignorant and highly destructive/toxic actions?....are u saying that wut humanity has done pollutantly and wrongfully to our biosphere is non-influencial to it? and that the world is ending just because its just fullfilling it's natural death? something like the mayan prophesy saying that the earth is transforming (dying) only to be reborn?





Well, if the earth is changing, then we're acting "influencially" on her, wouldn't you say?

And the earth is not dying, it's just recycling...the end of this age and the beginning of another. Who's to say the Mayans meant humanity when they talked about the changing of the ages?

"Last chance to evacuate Planet Earth before it is recycled."


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7823823 - 01/02/08 01:36 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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How did I know you were going to say that?




i dont know, maybe thats the logical thing to do? read, research.... ya know, look into shit before you write it off??


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7824543 - 01/02/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

How about you summarize for me, ya know, show me what you're talking about, see if you can even talk about what you believe in? And I'll fill in my curiosity with the juicy details?


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7824666 - 01/02/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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How about you summarize for me, ya know, show me what you're talking about, see if you can even talk about what you believe in? And I'll fill in my curiosity with the juicy details?




summarize 10 books? most of which are over 300 pages? that would take forever. the man took 40 years of research and information to compile these books. a summary wouldnt do them any justice.

my summary and your juicy details wont make up for whats in the books. dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.

if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7825021 - 01/02/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

:lol:

You could've summarized in the three paragraphs you just wrote right there.

And "read a fucking book"?  I'm currently reading five right now, thanks.  And one happens to be a book on mythology.  Ever heard of mythology?

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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7825324 - 01/02/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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:lol:

You could've summarized in the three paragraphs you just wrote right there.

And "read a fucking book"?  I'm currently reading five right now, thanks.  And one happens to be a book on mythology.  Ever heard of mythology?

:smirk:




no, i really couldnt. i couldnt even summarize them in 10 paragraphs. maybe if i were a better writer.

whoa. FIVE. impressive. :rolleyes:  you know, you retain more information if you read them one at a time. but, i guess since youre so advanced, why not make it 6?

mythology? nope, never heard of it. i dropped out in 4th grade.  :flowstone:


listen, i dont give a fuck what you read, how much you read, or how many you read at one time. all im saying is read the books before you deny it. otherwise, youre just as closed minded as most other people. give it a chance. then argue with me.

when and if ever you get around to reading them, youll find out about the roots of roman and greek mythology.


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7825743 - 01/02/08 10:25 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Whoa




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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7826008 - 01/03/08 12:03 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.

if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.




Jeeze lefty, please turn down the hostility a notch.

Personally, I currently suspect that there is some truth to Intervention Theory,
but if you are going to try to point others to the evidence, you better get used to being laughed at.

Ziggen and PT, there is no laughing, taunting, mocking or attempts at discrediting allowed in this forum though, you have been warned. :kittyeagle:


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Re: 2012 Is NOT the End of the World [Re: Middleman]
    #7828479 - 01/03/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

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leftysurprise said:

dont be lazy. read a fucking book. i promise once you finish the first book youll want to keep reading the rest. this isnt just one mans theory. there is more than enough hard evidence in those books to say that not only did aliens arive here long before us, but that they created us as slaves, only to eventually give civilization to us. after trying to destroy us of course. we are ourselves, aliens. they were/are the gods(now god) that we worship/worshipped.

if you want a summary, go find it somewhere else. to be honest, ive summarized way too much in the past and i dont feel like doing it tonight. maybe another night when im not so tired. until then, read the first damn book, its only $10 at book stores.




Jeeze lefty, please turn down the hostility a notch.

Personally, I currently suspect that there is some truth to Intervention Theory,
but if you are going to try to point others to the evidence, you better get used to being laughed at.

Ziggen and PT, there is no laughing, taunting, mocking or attempts at discrediting allowed in this forum though, you have been warned. :kittyeagle:




lol, sorry, sometimes i forget that emotion doesnt show well online. theres no hostility. thats just how i talk most of the time :smile: the only thing i see that could be seen as hostile there was "fucking" but.... i say fuck alot, so dont read into it too much.

i dont mind being laughed at, ive been telling people about his books and the such since i first got interested in them at age 10. being laughed at doesnt bother me, because i know how closed minded most people are. what DOES bother me, are the people who refuse to even look into it before screaming blasphemy. its nice to have an actual discussion/debate about something with someone who knows that the hell youre talking about, not having someone ridicule you simply because the idea is foreign to them. the government thinks pot is the antichrist, the church thought the idea of a solar centered planetary system was blasphemy, and the bush administration thought that iraq had WMD...... people are wrong, even when they have the majority of the population on their side.


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