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masslessparticle
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Dose analysis
#7749614 - 12/12/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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how many ug's will produce a level 5 trip? And if it takes two hits of a proposed blotter to produce a trip that contains visuals, just not strong ones, then what would be the ug range of one hit. On erowid it says 20 ug for threshold, but what do they mean by threshold?
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Coaster
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Oral LSD Dosages Threshold 20 ug Light 25 - 75 ug Common 50 - 150 ug Strong 150 - 400 ug Heavy 400 + ug LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 12,000 ug
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Ness1
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Coaster]
#7749629 - 12/12/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Although that LD50 is completely incorrect.
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749654 - 12/12/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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although i got it from the most legit source -Erowid nigga!
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masslessparticle
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749659 - 12/12/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My confusion lies in the difference of the threshold and light dose levels. I know that it takes at least two hits of supposed blotter to enduce tripping, altough one makes you feel good, and three is considered a full trip. But at five people are still conncected to reality pretty good, and I would think at five people would start to reach at least level 4 if not 5. But if it takes only two to trip, then what would you guess the dose per hit is?
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Coaster]
#7749661 - 12/12/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coaster said: although i got it from the most legit source -Erowid nigga!
I know you got it from Erowid. It's still wrong.
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newlife
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masslessparticle said: how many ug's will produce a level 5 trip? And if it takes two hits of a proposed blotter to produce a trip that contains visuals, just not strong ones, then what would be the ug range of one hit. On erowid it says 20 ug for threshold, but what do they mean by threshold?
It all depends on body chemistry but those are good dosages from erowid. Try looking into the trip reports.
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749678 - 12/12/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said:
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Coaster said: although i got it from the most legit source -Erowid nigga!
I know you got it from Erowid. It's still wrong.
ok man u go take 60 strong hits of acid and c how u feel
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: newlife]
#7749679 - 12/12/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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threshhold means, you barley feel it, like something might or might not be there.
having any kind of visuals at all, is a light trip, having light visuals is most likley closer to 40-60ug.
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: john706]
#7749689 - 12/12/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Level 5 trip? Levels are in your head. Not in the dose.
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Ness1
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@Coaster: A Thumbprint is easily 30-50mg of LSD. There are no confirmed deaths from LSD toxicity EVER. Lots of people have taken Thumbprints. There is no established LD50 for LSD and it is the most researched psychedelic of all time.
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749735 - 12/12/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said: @Coaster: A Thumbprint is easily 30-50mg of LSD. There are no confirmed deaths from LSD toxicity EVER. Lots of people have taken Thumbprints. There is no established LD50 for LSD and it is the most researched psychedelic of all time.
yes yes yes i no once i saw a cold case files eposode were they reopened a case cuz the autopsy said the death was due to LSD and the another autopsy technician said that was impossible they said the guy did take a fuck load of lsd cuz his wife made jello with it without him knowing but he died on something else, but ay he said there was no confirmed reports of lsd deaths, same with weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749743 - 12/12/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Theres no way to give a specific dosage for a certain level trip, you can't even come close to an estimate. The trip levels are loose guidelines as it is, and each one can be reached on doses of greatly varying sizes. Some people would be able to have "a level 5 trip" on 200 mics which would be around 3 average hits of acid, for other people it would take 800 mics which would be around 10 average hits of acid. Same goes for all the other levels it completely depends on the trip and the person, not really the dosage.
Threshhold is the level at which any effects are apparent at all. Be it light visuals or a slight change of psyche, depth perception changes, or anything different then usual really.
The acid you have sounds like almost all the acid i get, one won't do much at all, two gives you some swirly light visuals, three gives you what i would call a trip (but still nothing too intense). If i had to guess at a ug level for hits like that i would say 50-70ug a pop. Keep in mind most people greatly over-estimate the amount of acid in their hits and that no one actually knows except the person who laid it.
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just the let u no the only way u cant have an estimate is if its random and u can even estimate random variables because almost everything can be predicted and estimated using mathmatics
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Re: Dose analysis [Re: Ness1]
#7749759 - 12/12/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said:
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Coaster said: although i got it from the most legit source -Erowid nigga!
I know you got it from Erowid. It's still wrong.
Its not wrong persay...its been tested in animals..
For humans it COULD be wrong, but much science is just theory anyways.
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masslessparticle
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Quote:
opensaysme said: Theres no way to give a specific dosage for a certain level trip, you can't even come close to an estimate. The trip levels are loose guidelines as it is, and each one can be reached on doses of greatly varying sizes. Some people would be able to have "a level 5 trip" on 200 mics which would be around 3 average hits of acid, for other people it would take 800 mics which would be around 10 average hits of acid. Same goes for all the other levels it completely depends on the trip and the person, not really the dosage.
Threshhold is the level at which any effects are apparent at all. Be it light visuals or a slight change of psyche, depth perception changes, or anything different then usual really.
The acid you have sounds like almost all the acid i get, one won't do much at all, two gives you some swirly light visuals, three gives you what i would call a trip (but still nothing too intense). If i had to guess at a ug level for hits like that i would say 50-70ug a pop. Keep in mind most people greatly over-estimate the amount of acid in their hits and that no one actually knows except the person who laid it.
It sounds like your description fits the ticket. So of the acid you usually get, what would you consider a strong dose for an experienced person. And I will tell you 5 dosen't seem like it. Is there a cap, or does it just keep intensifing with higher and higher doses.
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Ness1
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LSD has a saturation point somewhere around upwards of 500ug IIRC. After that, taking more doesn't make you trip harder until the dose is drastically increased.
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