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Invisibletruekimbo2
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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7793209 - 12/23/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

are you talking about this thread diploid?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3146265/page/0/fpart/all/vc/1

i'm guessing probably not.

post the link to thread you're talking about, because i remember you
a) changing the subject alot
b) never saying you'd be willing to wager money
c) never offering to hook me up with the JREF

i'm curious to see where my memory fails me.



again, so if i'm just some idiot who's making shit up for years, why won't you take MY CHALLENGE.

from your point of view of course i can't produce a video showing me doing telekinesis because it doesn't exsist,

So why don't you accept my challenge and take my money...

again, i'd like to see the post in which i challenged you a second time, because it seems this is going the same way.

also, this isn't just for diploid, this is for anyone. all you true believers that i am crazy or lying, according to your figures you're getting PERFECT ODDS, you cannot lose, how could you pass up an opportunity to make a wager in which you have 100% odds.

edit: i was thinking we could have an admin, mod, or shroomery member in good standing who will be at the NE gathering acting as the escrow? both people send the money to him/her 2 months before the gathering or something like that? i figure thats more reasonable than just expecting the other person to bring cash in hand?


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7794118 - 12/23/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

More blah blah blah, STILL no video. :shake:


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Diploid]
    #7794727 - 12/24/07 03:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Back when all the pinwheel threads were active I made one to play with. I was absolutely amazed... following the youtube videos, I cupped my hands around the pinwheel and concentrated on it spinning. Within a few moments it started to spin. I concentrated on it stopping and spinning the opposite direction, and it did so. (I'm being honest here.) It literally felt like I was controlling the motion of the pinwheel. Then the skeptic in me kicked in...

My next test was to do the same thing, but with a jar over the pinwheel. This time there was no motion. Hmmm... so something I did, without realizing that I did it, was causing the pinwheel to spin. Long story short, I finally figured out that it was the warm air rising off my hands that were cupped around the pinwheel that was causing it to spin. Slight shifts in my hand position would alter the direction of spin.

Even with a glass over the pinwheel, I was able to get it to spin by using a heating element (overdriven resistor). But, more importantly, I saw just how easy it is to fool myself into thinking that I was doing something mystical. When I say it felt like I was making the pinwheel spin, it really did. I wasn't expecting any motion at all, and was surprised when it first started to move.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Seuss]
    #7794781 - 12/24/07 05:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Dood, you've got the power! :yesnod:


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7794796 - 12/24/07 05:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

seuss back when i used to play around with the pinwheel i learned to do it without my hands, from a distance, with multiple pinwheels and i could make them spin in different directions, so i was pretty convinced.

also i've made it spin an a container a couple times without using my hands...

i've also moved other things, rolled pencils and slowed down clocks and such, but never with regularity, so at this stage i'm pretty certain.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7794810 - 12/24/07 06:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

More blah blah blah, STILL no video.

Anyone starting to see a pattern here? Hello?


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Diploid]
    #7794816 - 12/24/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

exactly, more blah blah blah. no money where mouth is. starting to see a pattern here? its been years.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7794831 - 12/24/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Until you do what you already agreed to do FIRST, don't expect me to take you seriously.

The ball is in your court.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Diploid]
    #7794863 - 12/24/07 07:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

link? i'd still like to see that thread


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7794876 - 12/24/07 07:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm here NOW telling you that for a simple video you get a free vacation and a shot at a million bucks.

But noooo! Instead of getting out a cell phone and shooting the video, here you are blahing about a 2+ year old link and bitching that I won't cooperate.

Geezus! :rolleyes:


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Diploid]
    #7794944 - 12/24/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Because I've been here before with other TBs who are full of shit, it was asked, and truekimbo2 AGREED, that before testing, he would produce a video tape of him filling a pickle jar with water (to show there are no holes in the jar), then dumping the water and placing a pinwheel in the jar which would then be sealed with duct tape. He would then move the pinwheel without touching the jar. This was to be done in one camera cut to prevent cheating.

That was over TWO YEARS AGO! Still no video tape. Of course, this hasn't stopped truekimbo2 from making dozens of new posts claiming these powers and bitching at me and others for not testing him. Nevermind that the promised video tape is nowhere to be seen.

If he ever actually follows through on his promise (don't hold your breath) I will follow through on my personal promise to fly him on my dime down here to Fort Lauderdale and personally arrange for the James Randi Educational Foundation to perform the formal test. And trust me, if I tell Randi that this guy is for real, Randi will listen to me, so the JREF test is not as closed as you might think. At least not for Shroomerites who manage to convince me.





if you offered me something in return for making a video, and i said i would do it, before now, then i sincerely apologize, i honestly do not remember that and i do not wish to antagonize you pointlessly.

i see that you have at present stated that you will fly me to florida for a vacation if i make that video,

and i will shut the fuck up about telekinesis until that video is made

with the exception of i would still like to make a post about making a wager for a demonstration at the NE gathering this year (for anyone else that would be interested), but i will keep the post small, and responses to a bare minimum.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7795536 - 12/24/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

truekimbo2 said:
link? i'd still like to see that thread




Linky

TK: i can make a video beforehand of what i can do.

Here is a classic:

Panoramix: A non-air catching object, eh? So something that isn't affected by air? That'd be something that isn't dinstinct from the affecting air. So, air. Every object 'catches' air to some degree.

Swami: *cough* True enough, but are you saying that psi "needs" an object SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to respond to minor air currents?



Once again a TB:

A: Reneges on his promise

B: Has a faulty memory over something earth-shattering

C. Cannot use the search engine as well as a skeptic or is too fucking lazy. (See thread on believer's brains).

Is there a pattern here?


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Diploid]
    #7795549 - 12/24/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

3.63 years and counting. Perhaps after I have passed on, he will make a video and I can view it from The Other Side...


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7795601 - 12/24/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

pwned!  Good job fellas.  :grin:


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7795660 - 12/24/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There is no intellectual challenge in pwning a TB. :nono:


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7795705 - 12/24/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I like the resurrection of the old thread.  That made it special.  :tongue:


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7795714 - 12/24/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:sun:

It took me 15 seconds to find it - and I used no special powers. No Beings of Light came to my aid. Didn't even have to meditate first or raise my kundalini.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7797459 - 12/25/07 04:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Shape of the pinwheel should be irrelevant if the pinwheel under testing is kept at near vacuum. It should also make it easier for the test taker without air friction.


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7797612 - 12/25/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Me im into P & S and M & P, my point is this, if your views are subjective then there is no way that they can be really true nor wrong.

Read up on the holographic universe or string theory, but that is science but
may hold alot to unexplained things.

If someone takes drugs to try to find the truth, i don't see anything right nor wrong as it is subjective, i believe we cannot find the "truth" on this plane (though i could be wrong if thats not to say if we could find the truth at all), but we can get closer to the "truth" by being open-minded.

Of course what im saying is subjective, the "only" way to see the objective side is only two ways death, (possibly, but death may not show us as we don't know what death holds) or sensory death ( which can show how the real reality really is without our biological perceptions).

It as if we are in a closed box, we can poke holes to get a view, but a hole never big enough to understand it all.


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Edited by Purple Mushroom (12/25/07 08:16 AM)


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Re: Whats wrong with the P+S heads? [Re: Purple Mushroom]
    #7797829 - 12/25/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The exotericist moves from below upwards, whereas the esotericist begins from above and moves downwards.

The rationalist keeps the idealist from flying too close to the sun, and at the same time the idealist pushes the rationalist beyond his semantic boundaries.

I've found that to identify one's self with either one of these only leads to an isolated world view. Real life examples of this are plentiful. An either/or perspective is self-limiting by its very nature.

But by discovering that the exoteric and the esoteric paradigms are actually both complementary rather than antagonistic, one then becomes capable of accepting a both/and perspective which in my experience is a much more integral view of the world.


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