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why i think people take psychedelic 's
    #7748565 - 12/12/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well some of them anyway. okay, maybe just me.

growing up we always needed a break from our parents or siblings so we would leave to our friends house or throw on some music and just drift away. when your living with friends or g/f's-b/f's you just need to get out so you go see a movie or again, hang out with friends. we all need breaks from the people in our lives, especially ourselves. its kinda hard to get a break from ourselves cause we are always fucking there so we take "drugs". to me its away to escape myself. i can be in a completely different world, with different thoughts and outlooks on myself and everything around me. I'm a different person but the same.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #7748601 - 12/12/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

escapism...sounds logical...everyone needs to escape something, even there-own-self every so often


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: shroomgatherer]
    #7748646 - 12/12/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Certainly this is true for some. You also have the group who just wants to "get fucked up", who are often the people who have bad trips, because they don't know what they're in for. I take them partially for the escapism thing, but also because I enjoy seeing life from a whole new perspective. I enjoy the state of mind it puts me in. It really is like being on a whole new planet. In general, I guess I take them to 'explore'.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #7748664 - 12/12/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Exploration and experience is what I take them for. Mushrooms take me into a world that I have never been, and i can see parts of myself i never seen before! I believe that in life, everything is an experience to be enjoyed and savored, especially trippin! You only live once, so experience everything you can, even worlds unknown that are hiding in your own mind!


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #7748688 - 12/12/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

People obviously don't all unanimously have the same reason for taking drugs. I take them to be blown away. Fathom the unfathomable. Learning. Creating. Exploring my mind and soul. Bonding. As a challenge.

However, in terms of escapism, I'd use it much like I would watch a movie to escape. It's not like life is bad, there's just a wonderful otherrealm contained in a tiny piece of paper, or an adorable mushroom at my disposal.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7748708 - 12/12/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well i take them for all the same reasons as well, but i think the biggest reason is to just get away from myself. i do love getting "fucked" up from shrooms or acid. (even though i can never find acid, EVER!)


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #7748724 - 12/12/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some people find disconnection from the body to be closer to godliness.

Actually, isn't there some religion which says (essentially) that this physical life is actually hell?


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Querjek]
    #7748735 - 12/12/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think that sometimes. that this life im in is hell.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #7749007 - 12/12/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I will attest somewhat to the escapism thing.
I don't take mushrooms so much to forget my problems, but to see my problems from a completely different light or angle.
Hell, take the problems away, and I still enjoy the feeling of seeing my entire life from a different angle. It breaks you from your day-to-day patterns like no other activity out there.

I can say, though, I use to take mushrooms for the pure experience...just to be able to go to a world so bizarre that I couldn't even articulate it to myself when I was sober. Now that the experience isn't as novel, I guess I've found a new appreciation for them.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Veter]
    #7749826 - 12/12/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

to learn...


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Veter]
    #7749841 - 12/12/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I took shrooms the first time too see something that I had never seen before, and to experience something that was otherwise unknowable.

I'm not tripping any more for now, but when I do go back it's because I love the psychedelic experience. I'm fascinated by it, and I always want to try to expand and perfect my ideas about it.

Another reason I trip is that I love explaining psychedelics to my non-tripper friends, and I always recite my most recent trips to them. They nod, and say how cool it sounds, and how maybe they'd like to try it, but I know they don't really know. And then they try it, and they understand what it is that I've been talking about all this time, just like I did when my friends first told me about shrooms. They understand why its called tripping. That understanding is the best part, in my opinion.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: g00ru]
    #7749851 - 12/12/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with the OP. i do it to escape from my conditioned self so I can learn about it and hopefully make better decisions in the future


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7749866 - 12/12/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I take it to have a new point of view.

And the fun comes with it.

But it's a kind of escaping :wink:


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: BBC]
    #7749953 - 12/12/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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to learn...




hands down. my first mushroom trip was a life changer, after that ive kept taking psychedelics to learn more about myself. my best friends are my tripping partners and ive learned more about them during these times than the 10+ years ive known them. sometimes it takes a substance to open things, be it mind or heart.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: smokeybear]
    #7750537 - 12/12/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Psychedelics do the exact opposite of escapism, for me. They make me face life, in a fucking beautiful way.:heart:


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: wildchild68]
    #7750559 - 12/12/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Psychedelics do the exact opposite of escapism, for me. They make me face life, in a fucking beautiful way.:heart:




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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: wildchild68]
    #7750878 - 12/12/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Psychedelics do the exact opposite of escapism, for me. They make me face life, in a fucking beautiful way.:heart:




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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: g00ru]
    #7751024 - 12/12/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

to realize what is already in front of you.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7751116 - 12/12/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

After my first three trips(on lsd), I realized how serious this shit was to me, and it became sort of the opposite of escapism.

All trips that followed involved a certain otherworldly vantage point to observe all parts of my psyche from. All places had hidden meaning, even the hidden and selfless places.

No matter how weird and selfless the experience became, it was always the opposite of a means by which to escape.
It was a way to become immersed in my whole world, both internally and externally. Deeper and deeper as the years passed.

The fact that what happens in these states of mind is inherently real makes me understand why I cared so much and felt like it was a part of me.

So, I dont really understand the escapism thing.
I cannot and dont want to seperate what happens in there to my self as a pure and sober person. I can always bring back something.

Some people apparently dont use these drugs with any intention of applying their experiences to their permanent state of mind.

Sadly, some people cant seem to find anything noteworthy. Its true.

To experience selflessness, doesnt mean you cant bring back useful cognitive orniments.

A seperation from reality?
Well I hope not for anyones sake.
Its a piece of reality we dont often get to see...........
Thats shit is very real naaaagger.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: yageman]
    #7751142 - 12/12/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Totally agreed. Dissolution of the ego, in my opinion, is a way of bringing oneself closer to the true, unified nature of reality. That's a far cry away from escapism, methinks.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: yageman]
    #7751212 - 12/12/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Alcohol killed psychedelics.

I say that because both drugs achieve the same effect in the people who use them; they forget themselves. The rules that so stringently determine our behavior in everyday life get lost to the wind and aspects of our personality we've been repressing are allowed to run free. Almost all societies recognize that this transcendence, as Aldous Huxley called it, is necessary for many to maintain their sanity and happiness. Most leaders just prefer to let alcohol do it, as alcohol teaches its lessons even to the foolish and stops people from thinking too hard. It's much less "hands-on."

Psychedelics and alcohol achieve that in wildly different ways, however. Booze numbs your brain and inhibits your inhibitions, so to speak. Psychedelics stimulate your consciousness so powerfully that the "rules" of thought as you know them become absurd and meaningless. The common ground is that the experience is a tremendous release for anybody who spends their lives in the shadow of expectations from themselves or other people. That's where the similarity ends.

I started tripping because I knew I would have to. I was strictly anti-drug before I turned 18, but whenever I read about LSD it piqued a major curiosity. It was painfully obvious, from art, music, fiction, even religion that the "psychedelic experience" was a major aspect of the human experience, whatever people try to tell us, and not one that I could ever want to ignore.

Now, I continue to trip because I like the way psychedelics let me think about the world and myself. I'm a very introspective person, and tripping lets me dive into my own thoughts without a sense of having to justify, rationalize, or necessarily use the things I find (even though I often am able to use those things once I've sobered up). You could say it lets you escape yourself, but I find all it truly gets me away from are the personal limitations I rely on to relate to others.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7751319 - 12/12/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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"but I find all it truly gets me away from are the personal limitations I rely on to relate to others".




That shit sticks too.

When that happens over time, you know who "gets" you.
This could be a problem for some people, but I consider it to be a blessing.

We all resonate on different plains. Some of us are just different and just so happen to resonate with others on a similare "wave".
I can resonate with anyone, but some people are just not in a place where they value the same weirdness and cant access selfless places, and cant take part in selfless conversation without faking it even if they are interested.

Some people out there are hardly human when compared to most people today, no matter where you live.
You can see it in every human sect of this grand world we live in.
When someone is on that level, you know it and when acting as they truely are, you might just think they are nuts.

What happens when you dont want to talk about yourself anymore or are not interested in conversing with people about yourself?
Yer weird as hell, thats what you are.

The egoless mind doesnt fit at this point in time even if its only partly dissolved.

Those who are that way tend to find the "others".
Not so sure why that happens, but I have a pretty funky theory.........lol

There is some very weird shit out there, and I encourage you all to find some of it, piece by piece.

Then you might just be weird enough to forget about being some fucking average person on a streetcorner.
Thats what we all want to be, but some people dont see any reason for it. Thats where you want to be.
"Happy" doesnt mean shit.
In the future the word happy will simply mean "content".

It sounds dry, but there is more love there than anywhere else.

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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7751917 - 12/12/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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People obviously don't all unanimously have the same reason for taking drugs. I take them to be blown away. Fathom the unfathomable. Learning. Creating. Exploring my mind and soul. Bonding. As a challenge.

However, in terms of escapism, I'd use it much like I would watch a movie to escape. It's not like life is bad, there's just a wonderful otherrealm contained in a tiny piece of paper, or an adorable mushroom at my disposal.




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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Seventy]
    #7752450 - 12/13/07 02:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

weed may be escape, alcohol may be relief.

acid/shrooms/salvia refuge and exaltation.
this is escape only if going into a temple is escape -
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7752473 - 12/13/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #7752508 - 12/13/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Something new, incredible, powerful, and forbidden. :yesnod:


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Compass]
    #7783901 - 12/20/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I take them to show me my thought/emotion based selves from an aware perspective, I can also accept and embrace all aspects of myself back into the wholeness that I am from this wide perspective.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: EllisDSox]
    #8968816 - 09/22/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'll smoke pot when I'm chillin' around a bonfire with some buddies or something...that's not really escapism.
Mush and other psychedelics I use in a strictly spiritual sense. I wouldn't call it escapism at all. When I trip I do it as a learning experience, to gain perspective on the "real" world by seeing it in a different way, like relearning it all over again.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Waking_Eyes]
    #8968850 - 09/22/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I take psychedelics to help me learn more about myself, what I am capable of. It helps me grasp hold of what's important and what I really should be focusing my attention on at that point in my life


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
    #8968931 - 09/22/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i suppose learning is a part of it...but quite frankly, i trip mostly because it's fun.  the way it makes you feel is incredible, and it is just very enjoyable.


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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: thatiAM]
    #8969618 - 09/22/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Because im open minded and i love anything Organic + Meditation :smile:


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