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Sophistic Radiance
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: yageman]
#7751212 - 12/12/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alcohol killed psychedelics.
I say that because both drugs achieve the same effect in the people who use them; they forget themselves. The rules that so stringently determine our behavior in everyday life get lost to the wind and aspects of our personality we've been repressing are allowed to run free. Almost all societies recognize that this transcendence, as Aldous Huxley called it, is necessary for many to maintain their sanity and happiness. Most leaders just prefer to let alcohol do it, as alcohol teaches its lessons even to the foolish and stops people from thinking too hard. It's much less "hands-on."
Psychedelics and alcohol achieve that in wildly different ways, however. Booze numbs your brain and inhibits your inhibitions, so to speak. Psychedelics stimulate your consciousness so powerfully that the "rules" of thought as you know them become absurd and meaningless. The common ground is that the experience is a tremendous release for anybody who spends their lives in the shadow of expectations from themselves or other people. That's where the similarity ends.
I started tripping because I knew I would have to. I was strictly anti-drug before I turned 18, but whenever I read about LSD it piqued a major curiosity. It was painfully obvious, from art, music, fiction, even religion that the "psychedelic experience" was a major aspect of the human experience, whatever people try to tell us, and not one that I could ever want to ignore.
Now, I continue to trip because I like the way psychedelics let me think about the world and myself. I'm a very introspective person, and tripping lets me dive into my own thoughts without a sense of having to justify, rationalize, or necessarily use the things I find (even though I often am able to use those things once I've sobered up). You could say it lets you escape yourself, but I find all it truly gets me away from are the personal limitations I rely on to relate to others.
-------------------- Enlil said: You really are the worst kind of person.
Edited by Tchan909 (12/12/07 08:43 PM)
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yageman
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Tchan909 said: "but I find all it truly gets me away from are the personal limitations I rely on to relate to others".
That shit sticks too.
When that happens over time, you know who "gets" you. This could be a problem for some people, but I consider it to be a blessing.
We all resonate on different plains. Some of us are just different and just so happen to resonate with others on a similare "wave". I can resonate with anyone, but some people are just not in a place where they value the same weirdness and cant access selfless places, and cant take part in selfless conversation without faking it even if they are interested.
Some people out there are hardly human when compared to most people today, no matter where you live. You can see it in every human sect of this grand world we live in. When someone is on that level, you know it and when acting as they truely are, you might just think they are nuts.
What happens when you dont want to talk about yourself anymore or are not interested in conversing with people about yourself? Yer weird as hell, thats what you are.
The egoless mind doesnt fit at this point in time even if its only partly dissolved.
Those who are that way tend to find the "others". Not so sure why that happens, but I have a pretty funky theory.........lol
There is some very weird shit out there, and I encourage you all to find some of it, piece by piece.
Then you might just be weird enough to forget about being some fucking average person on a streetcorner. Thats what we all want to be, but some people dont see any reason for it. Thats where you want to be. "Happy" doesnt mean shit. In the future the word happy will simply mean "content".
It sounds dry, but there is more love there than anywhere else.
Because that shit is real bitches.................lol
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Seventy
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: AlCapwn]
#7751917 - 12/12/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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AlCapwn said: People obviously don't all unanimously have the same reason for taking drugs. I take them to be blown away. Fathom the unfathomable. Learning. Creating. Exploring my mind and soul. Bonding. As a challenge.
However, in terms of escapism, I'd use it much like I would watch a movie to escape. It's not like life is bad, there's just a wonderful otherrealm contained in a tiny piece of paper, or an adorable mushroom at my disposal.
very well put
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Seventy]
#7752450 - 12/13/07 02:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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weed may be escape, alcohol may be relief.
acid/shrooms/salvia refuge and exaltation. this is escape only if going into a temple is escape - you are more immersed in your reality and your reality sings hymns.
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: apfrommsp]
#7752473 - 12/13/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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apfrommsp said:
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wildchild68 said: Psychedelics do the exact opposite of escapism, for me. They make me face life, in a fucking beautiful way.
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Compass
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
#7752508 - 12/13/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something new, incredible, powerful, and forbidden.
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Compass]
#7783901 - 12/20/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I take them to show me my thought/emotion based selves from an aware perspective, I can also accept and embrace all aspects of myself back into the wholeness that I am from this wide perspective.
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: EllisDSox]
#8968816 - 09/22/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll smoke pot when I'm chillin' around a bonfire with some buddies or something...that's not really escapism. Mush and other psychedelics I use in a strictly spiritual sense. I wouldn't call it escapism at all. When I trip I do it as a learning experience, to gain perspective on the "real" world by seeing it in a different way, like relearning it all over again.
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: Waking_Eyes]
#8968850 - 09/22/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I take psychedelics to help me learn more about myself, what I am capable of. It helps me grasp hold of what's important and what I really should be focusing my attention on at that point in my life
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thatiAM
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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: desufnoC]
#8968931 - 09/22/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i suppose learning is a part of it...but quite frankly, i trip mostly because it's fun. the way it makes you feel is incredible, and it is just very enjoyable.
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DahuiHeeNalu



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Re: why i think people take psychedelic 's [Re: thatiAM]
#8969618 - 09/22/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because im open minded and i love anything Organic + Meditation
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