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ID Request - Sydney Australia
    #7747653 - 12/11/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all. My first ID request. :laugh:

So I was walking around my area today not really looking for shrooms when I stumbled across these beauties. So what do you think? I'm gonna guess none of these are actives but I thought it was worth a shot at getting an ID anyway. If you need a spore print because you think they might be actives I will gladly get one.

Anyway, here they are.


Species #1:





Habitat: Backyard. Woodchips. Near a tree.

Gills: Pale white - cream colour

Stem: Browny orange, slightly enlarged at base.

Cap: Same colour as stem

Bruising: Didn't notice any

Location: Western suburbs of Sydney, Australia


Species #2:




Habitat: Grass. Next to path.

Gills: Pale white - cream colour

Stem: Browny orange.

Cap: Bit lighter than stem

Bruising: Didn't notice any

Location: Western suburbs of Sydney, Australia

Species #3:




Habitat: Grass. Possibly fertilized.

Gills: Black

Stem: Creamy white

Cap: Creamy white

Bruising: Went a tiny bit darker at the top of the stem. That's bruising right?

Location: Western suburbs of Sydney, Australia



Thanks in advance. :smile:


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: adrian7812]
    #7747700 - 12/12/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, you've got a collybia maybe is the first photo, not sure though, not active.
You've got a marasmius oreades is the second species. Durn little fairy ringers.
and a very greasy agaricus of some kind. None are active. But keep looking. Try dung areas, you know, where there's an abundance of shit. Farms. I'm not sure when subaeruginosa season is, but it's probably startin soon. And for them look in woodchipps and mulch. Be strong, Hold on, and send me spores if you find anything!!!


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7747717 - 12/12/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Eh. Thanks for the quick reply. :laugh:

I will keep looking, as even finding these was quite exciting. Not sure why, but it was.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: adrian7812]
    #7747725 - 12/12/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It always is , always is.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7747909 - 12/12/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just a note to all the Sydney hunters, you won't likely find ANY actives in Sydney until at least July.

If you really want wild magic mushrooms right now your best bet is to check out piles of cow shit (farms) for Psilocybe cubensis and Panaeolus cyanescens, but they're more of a warm weather mushroom. You find more in QLD.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: undergrounder]
    #7747919 - 12/12/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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undergrounder said:
Just a note to all the Sydney hunters, you won't likely find ANY actives in Sydney until at least July.

If you really want wild magic mushrooms right now your best bet is to check out piles of cow shit (farms) for Psilocybe cubensis and Panaeolus cyanescens, but they're more of a warm weather mushroom. You find more in QLD.




I have a horse paddock near me. If I went tomorrow how much of a chance would I have of finding any Cubensis or Cyanescens or any other actives? It has been quite warm around these parts recently with rain in between.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: adrian7812]
    #7747955 - 12/12/07 02:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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landsnorkler said:
Alright, you've got a collybia maybe is the first photo, not sure though, not active.
You've got a marasmius oreades is the second species. Durn little fairy ringers.
and a very greasy agaricus of some kind. None are active. But keep looking. Try dung areas, you know, where there's an abundance of shit. Farms. I'm not sure when subaeruginosa season is, but it's probably startin soon. And for them look in woodchipps and mulch. Be strong, Hold on, and send me spores if you find anything!!!



#1 looks more like Plutues to me. Though, a pink/buff spore print would confirm this. It seems too large, among other features, to be any of the Collybioid species.

#2 I don't know about M. oreades... might be, but it doesn't look quite right. The specimen is not the best.

#3 Mushrooms don't get greasy.... Slimy, yes, but not greasy. Though it is an Agaricus.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: CureCat]
    #7747991 - 12/12/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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landsnorkler said:
Alright, you've got a collybia maybe is the first photo, not sure though, not active.
You've got a marasmius oreades is the second species.  Durn little fairy ringers.
and a very greasy agaricus of some kind.  None are active.  But keep looking.  Try dung areas, you know, where there's an abundance of shit.  Farms.  I'm not sure when subaeruginosa season is, but it's probably startin soon.  And for them look in woodchipps and mulch.  Be strong, Hold on, and send me spores if you find anything!!!



#1 looks more like Plutues to me.  Though, a pink/buff spore print would confirm this.  It seems too large, among other features, to be any of the Collybioid species.

#2  I don't know about M. oreades... might be, but it doesn't look quite right.  The specimen is not the best.

#3  Mushrooms don't get greasy....  Slimy, yes, but not greasy.  Though it is an Agaricus.




So you think none are active either?

Also could someone reply to my previous post if you can? Thanks :smile:


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: adrian7812]
    #7748513 - 12/12/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

None are active, for sure.

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I have a horse paddock near me. If I went tomorrow how much of a chance would I have of finding any Cubensis or Cyanescens or any other actives? It has been quite warm around these parts recently with rain in between.



Chance of finding Ps. cyanescens= .00001%
That is because Cyans do not grow in your region, and do not grow from manure.

There is no way for us to tell you how likely it will be for you to find actives. You'll just have to go check.
Furthermore, this last question borders on breaking forum rules.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: CureCat]
    #7749239 - 12/12/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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None are active, for sure.

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adrian7812 said:
I have a horse paddock near me. If I went tomorrow how much of a chance would I have of finding any Cubensis or Cyanescens or any other actives? It has been quite warm around these parts recently with rain in between.



Chance of finding Ps. cyanescens= .00001%
That is because Cyans do not grow in your region, and do not grow from manure.

There is no way for us to tell you how likely it will be for you to find actives. You'll just have to go check.
Furthermore, this last question borders on breaking forum rules.




Thanks. Sorry about that.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7749341 - 12/12/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It always is , always is.




True dat!


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: Ganzig]
    #7751496 - 12/12/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think he was referring to Pan cyans, but for the record Psilocybe cyanescens = US & Europe winter woodloving mushroom similar to the native Psilocybe subaeruginosa, Panaeolus cyanescens = summer dung loving mushroom found both here and in the US. And Panaeolus cyanescens is often called Copelandia cyanescens just to confuse things more.

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New South Wales
Psilocybe australiana
Gymnopilus junonius
Panaeolus cyanescens
Panaeolus subbalteatus
Psilocybe cubensis
Psilocybe eucalypta
Psilocybe subaeruginosa
Psilocybe tasmaniana





Coloured are the most commonly collected. Red are summer shrooms you get in dung from mid-NSW and up. Blue are winter shrooms you get in woodchips from Mid-NSW and down. Use the search bar on all of them to narrow down where they grow. The reds rarely grow on horse manure, but you might have a chance at Panaolus subbalteatus which is often (In America anyway) found around horse stables but its not commonly found here. Again use the search bar for more info.

Mushroom hunting is like any other hunting/fishing. You need to target a particular mushroom, learn EVERYTHING about it, its season, the fruiting weather, its habitat, and then you need to hunt its very specific habitat. Just trawling randomly is fun and will get you lots of interesting inactives but that's it.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: undergrounder]
    #7751612 - 12/12/07 10:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hehehe, curecat, you crack me up. You are right, mushrooms do not get greasy. Smelly sometimes, but not greasy.


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: undergrounder]
    #7751698 - 12/12/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Undergrounder, you're totally right. I don't usually forget about Pan. cyanescens, it's just with the season here locally, I'm focused on the Ps. cyanescens.
Good point!


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Re: ID Request - Sydney Australia [Re: undergrounder]
    #7751758 - 12/12/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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undergrounder said:
i think he was referring to Pan cyans, but for the record Psilocybe cyanescens = US & Europe winter woodloving mushroom similar to the native Psilocybe subaeruginosa, Panaeolus cyanescens = summer dung loving mushroom found both here and in the US. And Panaeolus cyanescens is often called Copelandia cyanescens just to confuse things more.

From here:

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New South Wales
Psilocybe australiana
Gymnopilus junonius
Panaeolus cyanescens
Panaeolus subbalteatus
Psilocybe cubensis
Psilocybe eucalypta
Psilocybe subaeruginosa
Psilocybe tasmaniana





Coloured are the most commonly collected. Red are summer shrooms you get in dung from mid-NSW and up. Blue are winter shrooms you get in woodchips from Mid-NSW and down. Use the search bar on all of them to narrow down where they grow. The reds rarely grow on horse manure, but you might have a chance at Panaolus subbalteatus which is often (In America anyway) found around horse stables but its not commonly found here. Again use the search bar for more info.

Mushroom hunting is like any other hunting/fishing. You need to target a particular mushroom, learn EVERYTHING about it, its season, the fruiting weather, its habitat, and then you need to hunt its very specific habitat. Just trawling randomly is fun and will get you lots of interesting inactives but that's it.




Thanks for the tips. :laugh:


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