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LSD then and now
#7747568 - 12/11/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was wondering what the Microgram range was back in the 60's 70's ?
Compared to nowadays?
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Psy Baba]
#7747582 - 12/11/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've heard that it was roughly 2-3 times as potent back then.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Silversoul]
#7747627 - 12/11/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said: I've heard that it was roughly 2-3 times as potent back then.
Me too.
Owsley tabs were 500ug
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500s potent shit, but my gut tells me they had their stong and their weak shit too.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Ferris]
#7747729 - 12/12/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the 50's it was given away in some places because it's so inexpensive to manufacture. From what I've read anywho.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Psy Baba]
#7748101 - 12/12/07 05:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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there is a report out there.. i don't remember if it is independent, or DEA.. regarding the potency of acid from the late 60s through to the late 90s, i believe..
there was a pretty big variance, but the largest recorded dose from any time was 300ug... the average was around 60-70ug, pretty consistantly through the whole report.
I'm pretty sure that this is about the same now... with the occasional 100-200ug dose coming out.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Yoschie99]
#7748127 - 12/12/07 06:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yoschie99 said: there is a report out there.. i don't remember if it is independent, or DEA.. regarding the potency of acid from the late 60s through to the late 90s, i believe..
there was a pretty big variance, but the largest recorded dose from any time was 300ug... the average was around 60-70ug, pretty consistantly through the whole report.
I'm pretty sure that this is about the same now... with the occasional 100-200ug dose coming out.
yos-
I have to agree not even knowing what acid was like before the 90's, but... considering the precursors are the same exact thing as they have alway been, the only reason potency will be lower is from people diluting down crystal big time and making cash off of it, which I'm sure not EVERY person is doing.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Ferris]
#7749917 - 12/12/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferris said: 500s potent shit, but my gut tells me they had their stong and their weak shit too.
Ya, you always hear about old guys' stories about how acid was so strong way back when. But frankly, they don't tell you about the 10 times they had acid that was just normal.
I want to say that the lsd was probably more potent back then, but i'm sure it had its ups and downs.
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Nephlyte]
#7750060 - 12/12/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL a 500mcg tab would be nuts. I can imagine popping a single dose to watch a cover band play some dead tunes at a bar near my house or something, and start tripping BALLS, that'd be great
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Noviseer]
#7750327 - 12/12/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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20/1..... I've heard, I imagine, you always hear, I have to agree, I'm pretty sure, there is a report, from what i read, my gut tells me, I'm wondering? hmmmmm... i been there and done thet. me and a few bros 1st. dropped in the summer '67. very strong. waaaaay visuals. very freaky. but we was'nt freaks. dint smoke dope til '69. 1 hit of blotter or windowpane or sunshine was verrrry strong. it seemed thet the trip was almost to strong for to long. for us, in the grate north midwest, the summer of love was '70. they was acid everywhere. 100 hits was $50. acid sold @ parties fer $2. a few times, we buy a hundred hits and do 'em til they gone. bout week/10days. sum had cramps, most did not. since '95 we went to the local DeAd show ,, score sum 'cid and the general consensus is always maybe....20/1 to the hits of the current day good stuff. now, I'm the chronic in the bunch, and I will eat a oz of shrooms during a 3 hr DeAd show, but my bros were always a bunch a liteweights. 20/1.... they be 4 a us left of 40 or so who used to go to all the shows, and we be, 51 and a R.R. carman, 53 and a pharmacist, 55 and a NDT tech, 53 and a executive level travel consultant. we all get beered up on friday nites and pound out to the dEaD. and 2 of us smoke dope still..... we all do to some degree...trip out every year @ the local dEaD show....and we were lucky enuf to be @ TeRrIpIn StAtIoN ReUnIoN, were we found the best 'show bought' 'cid. but I still could done 20 of 'em (c:
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I think people could put a lot more care into their acid back then. The only stuff I've ever had readily available recently was plain white blotter with the tabs marked off in pencil. Not the best stuff but it did the job.
I think the legality back in the sixties allowed it to be better made and cheaper, even giving it away for free on the streets.
We just can't do that now days. Too much at stake with it being a schedule I drug in the US.
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the main diff, with 2days 'cid is money. it will never be like it was , back in the day, now. because it would cut the profit margin about,,,??????let me guess......20/1\
what i end up doing for the shows is 'cid and a belly full of shroomes. and @ 50sumthing,i gots a BIG belly. :o)
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: 100 hits was $50. acid sold @ parties fer $2.
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: the main diff, with 2days 'cid is money.
Well, most of your post was almost completely incoherent. But, if you adjust for inflation, 100 hits for $50 in 1967 equals 100 hits for $300 dollars today. And two dollars a hit in 1967 works out to $12 a hit in 2007. So they were making some nice cash back then, lets not pretend.
Also, you keep saying 20/1? Do you mean that hits in the 60's were 20 times stronger?
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Re: LSD then and now [Re: Nephlyte]
#7750722 - 12/12/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: 100 hits was $50. acid sold @ parties fer $2.
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: the main diff, with 2days 'cid is money.
Well, most of your post was almost completely incoherent. But, if you adjust for inflation, 100 hits for $50 in 1967 equals 100 hits for $300 dollars today. And two dollars a hit in 1967 works out to $12 a hit in 2007. So they were making some nice cash back then, . lets not pretend
Also, you keep saying 20/1? Do you mean that hits in the 60's were 20 times stronger?
yes i do. and as far as the pretending........mabe it was $1.25 or ??? fuckin' aye man, it was 40 yrs ago. ----I do know it was it was $6 @ the last ShOw, last year..so...it aint to far off the mark. the last time i bought 100 hits was 1972. u were prolly a wet spot on ur ma's panties? (lets not pretend)..WTF do thet meen.. You think I'm full of it?
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incoherrent? excuse me ---i work, i come home, i eat, i have a tuner, 3 Corona's and off to la la land. (and i took my grandkid shopping 2day). incohhernt???? again...sorry i blew up...
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: the main diff, with 2days 'cid is money. it will never be like it was , back in the day, now. because it would cut the profit margin about,,,??????let me guess......20/1\
what i end up doing for the shows is 'cid and a belly full of shroomes. and @ 50sumthing,i gots a BIG belly. :o)
Your 50 something and you talk like that?
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__Tennessee_Jed_ said: (lets not pretend)..WTF do thet meen.. You think I'm full of it?
You may not be full of it, considering the difficulty you have with grammar, i would completely believe you if you said you've done to many drugs in your life.
When i said "lets not pretend" i was talking about money being a motivator for selling acid. A lot of people like to pretend like people selling lsd in the 60's didn't want to make some cash.
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